Genesis questions

[ThaChozenWun]

Wrong section .... yea I just got my mod police on!

But theres plenty in the bible that doesnt make sense. Like everything that doesnt make sense though, you will have people who highly believe in it form a story to fit why it doesnt make sense and use the infamous bible line

"Well that part is taken out of context" or "That part isnt supposed to be literal"

It's at the point a new book needs to be released identifying which parts of the bible are literal and which aren't. Obviously the ones not making any sense have to be taken non literally or else it would be a joke.

 

[judahxulu]

First of all, the book begins "In A beginning (b'raysheet), not "In THE beginning" (b'ha raysheet).This particular mistranslation changes the meaning of everything that follows. "Earth" was not referring to the mass of the planet we reside on.
אֶרֶץ
=
eretz

1) land, earth

a) earth

1) whole earth (as opposed to a part)

2) earth (as opposed to heaven)

3) earth (inhabitants)

b) land

1) country, territory

2) district, region

3) tribal territory

4) piece of ground

5) land of Canaan, Israel

6) inhabitants of land

7) Sheol, land without return, (under) world

8) city (-state)

c) ground, surface of the earth

1) ground

2) soil

d) (in phrases)

1) people of the land

2) space or distance of country (in measurements of distance)

3) level or plain country

4) land of the living

5) end(s) of the earth

e) (almost wholly late in usage)

1) lands, countries

a) often in contrast to Canaan

"Without form"

תֹּהוּ
tohu

1) formlessness, confusion, unreality, emptiness

a) formlessness (of primeval earth)

1) nothingness, empty space

b) that which is empty or unreal (of idols) (fig)

c) wasteland, wilderness (of solitary places)

d) place of chaos

e) vanity

"and void"

בֹּהוּ

vohu

1) emptiness, void, waste

Genesis is just about the most important book in the Bible IMO and it also the most mistranslated and misunderstood. For instance, there is a difference between LORD, Lord and God in the Hebrew and knowing this makes a WHOLE LOT of difference in context. Also, Adam and Eve were not individuals either. Thats just the tip of the iceberg...if you are truly curious and the usual idiotic, dogmatic, religious explanation of the Cosmogony of Moses won't scratch your itch, I have a book by this French dude Fabre d'Olivet that breaks down the meaning of the text in Hebrew quite extensively.

 

[VIBE]

Wrong section .... yea I just got my mod police on!

But theres plenty in the bible that doesnt make sense. Like everything that doesnt make sense though, you will have people who highly believe in it form a story to fit why it doesnt make sense and use the infamous bible line

"Well that part is taken out of context" or "That part isnt supposed to be literal"

It's at the point a new book needs to be released identifying which parts of the bible are literal and which aren't. Obviously the ones not making any sense have to be taken non literally or else it would be a joke.

Yeah, I thought I was in R & R, the click didn't go through I guess. Oh well, a mod will move it in time.

Nah, the bible doesn't need re-writing, that would stir up too much crap.

 

[VIBE]

First of all, the book begins "In A beginning (b'raysheet), not "In THE beginning" (b'ha raysheet).This particular mistranslation changes the meaning of everything that follows. "Earth" was not referring to the mass of the planet we reside on.

אֶרֶץ

=

eretz

1) land, earth

a) earth

1) whole earth (as opposed to a part)

2) earth (as opposed to heaven)

3) earth (inhabitants)

b) land

1) country, territory

2) district, region

3) tribal territory

4) piece of ground

5) land of Canaan, Israel

6) inhabitants of land

7) Sheol, land without return, (under) world

8) city (-state)

c) ground, surface of the earth

1) ground

2) soil

d) (in phrases)

1) people of the land

2) space or distance of country (in measurements of distance)

3) level or plain country

4) land of the living

5) end(s) of the earth

e) (almost wholly late in usage)

1) lands, countries

a) often in contrast to Canaan

"Without form"

תֹּהוּ

tohu

1) formlessness, confusion, unreality, emptiness

a) formlessness (of primeval earth)

1) nothingness, empty space

b) that which is empty or unreal (of idols) (fig)

c) wasteland, wilderness (of solitary places)

d) place of chaos

e) vanity

"and void"

בֹּהוּ

vohu

1) emptiness, void, waste

Genesis is just about the most important book in the Bible IMO and it also the most mistranslated and misunderstood. For instance, there is a difference between LORD, Lord and God in the Hebrew and knowing this makes a WHOLE LOT of difference in context. Also, Adam and Eve were not individuals either. Thats just the tip of the iceberg...if you are truly curious and the usual idiotic, dogmatic, religious explanation of the Cosmogony of Moses won't scratch your itch, I have a book by this French dude Fabre d'Olivet that breaks down the meaning of the text in Hebrew quite extensively.

Yeah, I'm interested..

 

[One Spliff]

man..if u stuck on the first damn verse...then just stop reading now lmao.

damn...

that shit aint even important.

but u gotta read the KJV, newer version all have words changed round which completely chnage how you preceieve certain passages.

n adam n eve represent more than 1 person, or 2 people...but the fist group of people/civilisation..u'll find that out as you keep reading...hence why cain had the mark on him for killign able.

but its mostly figurative anyway...

the answesr are in all the other books of the bible...so usally if u get stuck or dont udnerstand, u jus gotta keep reading.

 

[VIBE]

I'm not "stuck", it just doesn't make sense. We both have different beliefs, big time. Yours is yours, mine is mine. To me, your explanation wouldn't help due to a difference of the beliefs.

 

[One Spliff]

I'm not "stuck", it just doesn't make sense. We both have different beliefs, big time. Yours is yours, mine is mine. To me, your explanation wouldn't help due to a difference of the beliefs.

its a spiritual book

if it doesnt make sense, then u havent been givin the spirit to udnerstand it...the bible tells you that.

12We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.

16The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children

9However, as it is written:

“No eye has seen,

no ear has heard,

no mind has conceived

what God has prepared for those who love him”b—

10but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11



it dont make sense because this word is given to very very few...only his 'elect' to be specific...this word aint no spectator sport.

 

[judahxulu]

Yeah, I'm interested..

I'm uploading a nice little pack of supplementary study materials now. Sorry about uploading "The Hebraic Tongue Restored" twice. One version has been censored, the other is intact. The one with the last chapter entitled "Cosmogony of Moses" is a good insight into Genesis, but be forewarned it is a dense read.

 

["A Tout le Mond]

Why is this in here?

 

[janklow]

Yeah, I thought I was in R & R, the click didn't go through I guess. Oh well, a mod will move it in time.

or i will get annoyed by the extra work it causes me and JUST CLOSE THE THREAD IN A HUFF

or move it, whichever

 

[alissowack]

1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Earth without from = no shape, not complete. Right?

It was also void, meaning there was nothing there. Right?

Then it says, the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. How can God move across the face of the waters if the earth hasn't formed or has nothing on it??

I don't want to downplay the question, but if someone's faith is dependent on whether they "know" how God created the earth, then the believer's hope is only that they are right and not that they are "saved".

 

[Chike]

Calm down, all your answers are answered in this clip.

[video=youtube;E_EXqdJ4L7I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJmIl6BQ7Q4[/video]

 

[kids in america_]

1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Earth without from = no shape, not complete. Right?

It was also void, meaning there was nothing there. Right?

Then it says, the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. How can God move across the face of the waters if the earth hasn't formed or has nothing on it??

Gen. 1:2 basically says that the ‘earth’ [[Hebrew: erets-- ground, firm, land, field] was submerged in water and the “spirit of god” was moving over the face of “the submerged chaos”.
In ‘a’ beginning everything, the “whole earth” was covered with water.

 

[theillestrator]

so in other words, keep interpreting the passages until they kind of make sense.