themadlionsfan;8109633 said:
desertrain10;8109583 said:
atribecalledgabi;8108571 said:
deadeye;8108554 said:
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desertrain10;8107192 said:
Lol
One of the main themes of the books, show is what it means to be excluded from power: to be a woman, or a bastard, or a dwarf
Arya, Brianne, Cersei, etc are driven by the fact that they are born into a world where they cannot do or attempt the same things as men can
And while Cersei may be overly emotional, that doesn't mean she's dumb
Thanx in part to her gender she was never taught how to lead/rule and can only focus and succeed in small situations...that's her problem
And cersei is not completely to blame for the coming fall of the lannisters...jamie, tywin, tyrion have all played a big part
cs i been saying this (not a book reader). she would make a terrible leader, but let's not act like
she hasn't been passed over for much better. joffrey? fuckin tommen?
What are you talking about?
How was she passed over?
Technically, the Lannisters don't have any claim to the throne.
The only reason Joffrey and Tommen became King was because everyone believes they're Robert Baratheon's sons.
@desertrain10
Being a woman didn't stop old lady Tyrell from being respected.....so don't use that feminist bullshit to make excuses for Cersei.
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by not being given a seat at the table when everything is by birthright. tywin arguably hated tyrion most, but he still fucked with him because that's his
son. tyrion was master of coin. jaime was given casterly rock if he wanted it...you mean to tell me she couldn't have done anything on the small council? the same shit wackass pycelle is on? the shit extends everywhere. despite the dancing lessons, ned told arya she was gonna marry a lord & be a wife & mother. she's always had more potential than that but the world they live in won't allow for that. arya & brienne had to leave home to be accepted.
@ 2nd bolded
we all know how stupid letting a child run a country is. even if those were really robert's kids you tryna tell me she couldn't officially be a stand in until they come of age? if joffrey didn't have all robert's real bastards killed they woulda kept going down the line for males. over cersei. dudes who don't know or care about an iron throne coulda got that shit while she grew up around it & knows how to politic. again i'm not saying cersei would make a good leader. i'm saying since merit doesn't mean anything & only birthright & gender do...there's no good reason why cersei (& other women) can't officially get the chance when there are worse male options they wouldn't hesitate to give authoritative positions to.
Right
The day they were born, jamie passed over cersei to be next in line to rule over casterly rock only because he was man...even though cersei was the oldest ...
And great leaders aren't born, they're made... who knows what kind of leader she could have been had she been groomed to lead
Than her mother died young, treated like property by the men she loved all her life, raped/abused by king robert, etc
She can be evil...but there's a reason why she's the way she is
Cersei has been a cut since popped out the womb....that Maggi the frog scene told us that. And when Tyrion was a baby she was yanking on his cock. None of the male posters are making excuses for their characters so don't make excuses for Cersei. Tywin told her flat out, the reason I don't give you more power isn't because you're a woman, it's because you're not as smart as you think you are. And this season is proof positive of that.
Her mother's death predated her run in with maggi
Tywin may have said that, but the reality is women could not inherent lands or their fathers titles
And all things considered, he shouldn't have been surprised that she was a bad leader...he never groomed her to lead
The only thing he taught her was cruelty
Remember his scene with tommen when he was laying out what it means to be a good leader...he never devoted that time with cersei to show her it was more to ruling than evoking fear
That's part of the reason why Jeff turned out to be a horrible king...besides the fact he was a product of incest lol
As soon she had her period she was made to marry robert
Ever since her birth tywin only viewed her as a bargaining piece
Cersei is evil, not excusing her actions
But considering who her father is and the life she lead i understand why she is the way she is