G.I. Joe and Transformers

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joshuaboy;1975892 said:
As kids, we might have only cared for the action, but the stories stuck with us and that is what turned me off most. Some of the story lines that they changed didn't need to be changed. Same with Clash of the Titans. What was changed didn't need to be. As I said, from the outside looking in, G.I. Joe was more entertaining. I left the movies very disappointed because of the changes made to the characters and other aspects. But I went back to watch it again with an open mind and tried to look at it from the point of a stand alone movie and not as I remember it as a kid, and I enjoyed it.

Transformers was hit and miss. And we know Jazz had to be the one to die - he was black.

The only movie that stuck true recently was A-Team.

that was some utter bs right there!!!! man u talk about sumbody who was PISSED!!!!!!!!
 
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rapmastermind;1973360 said:
Exactly, any kid that grew up in the 1980's and watched the G.I. Joe Animated Series and Movie as well as had the action figures which were the best Toys due to their flexibility (He man and other toys had nothing on G.I. Joe). The Movie did not live up at all. When I watched "Transformers Part 1" the effects alone brought me back to my childhood, Hearing Optimus Prime's Voice brought be back to my childhood. And though "Part II" wasn't the best sequel, it wasn't as bad as "G.I. Joe" movie. I also think "Transformers 3" will end up redeeming the series. But for "G.I. Joe" The casting was not good, the story was weak. I know it was an orgin story but they didn't do a good job. The Critics agree as it got worst reviews even than "Transformers".

They spent all that money on budget and the effects were not on the level of "Transformers". Say what you want about the "Transformers" series, the film only made the brand more popular, it sprung up new cartoons and new toy lines. 70's and 80's babies who are now adults, their kids are now in love with Transformers. G.I. Joe is not on the same status as it was in the 80's and this movie is why. THEY FAILED, period. And I hope they fire everyone and reboot the entire series. What's sad is this is the perfect era for a G.I. Movie, like someone said, "Expendables" is more G.I. Joe than G.I. Joe movie and even the military in "Transformers" feels more like G.I. Joe than that movie. Sure they had some of the characters down but the movie was not good. What upsets me is G.I. Joe in the 80's was more popular than Transformers, that the impact it had. Not anymore. Transformers is now a more popular franchise and the films are one of the biggest reasons why.

Oh and for the record:

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Transformers and G.I Joe Live Action Movies. When Duke and Opitmus died, it actually hurt me as a child, that's the emotional power these cartoons had on a child of the 80's.

correction dawg, duke didn't die. he only went into a coma. actually optimus is the reason why they didn't kill duke. after the backlash they got got from parents, and distraught kids after watchin prime die, they opted to only put duke in a coma. that wud've been too much on us durin that time. actually, i thought it was EPIC. i was in shock & awe that he died. hell, i was in shock & awe that they started killin folks PERIOD! lol
 
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The G.I. Joe movie kind of kept the spirit of the cartoon, but that's about it. All told, it was a pretty bad movie.

Transformers definitely evoked nostalgia for me, especially with bringing back Peter Cullen to voice Optimus Prime. That was a genius move.

But it gets kind of iffy after that. I think they just added on too much to it, and I didn't like that the story seemed to be less about the conflict between the Autobots and the Decepticons, and more about how everyone on Earth reacted to it. Plus, I didn't like the designs of the Transformers. Devastator, in particular, was a huge letdown. Seriously, what the fuck was THAT supposed to be?

Makes me glad they didn't introduce the Dinobots. That shit would have made my soul burn slow.

Both live action franchises pale in comparison to the animated films that preceeded them some 20-plus years before.
 
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darkone360;1980876 said:
correction dawg, duke didn't die. he only went into a coma. actually optimus is the reason why they didn't kill duke. after the backlash they got got from parents, and distraught kids after watchin prime die, they opted to only put duke in a coma. that wud've been too much on us durin that time. actually, i thought it was EPIC. i was in shock & awe that he died. hell, i was in shock & awe that they started killin folks PERIOD! lol

When Duke got put into that coma, I was mad, even as a child, because I wanted him to die. A stiffened snake to the heart with significant blood splatter, and all he does is go into a coma. That was like the 2nd or 3rd coma Duke got put into during the cartoon run. The first being during the Pyramid of Darkness mini series/movie.

When Prime died, it sent chills through my body as a kid and the entire theater was silent. My mother laughed. When they were killing all the Autobots, I couldn't believe what I was seeing because they didn't get hit "like that" in the regular cartoon, but I knew they were getting killed because of the graphic nature they were getting murked. I knew there was no coming back from flashing eyes, getting shot in the chest until it explodes, and smoke coming out of the mouth. I think Prowls death was the 2nd worst in the entire movie because you saw the pain on his face. Ironhide getting his head blown off while at point blank range looking up at Megatron was the 1st.
 
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Mally_G;1983326 said:
I think Prowls death was the 2nd worst in the entire movie because you saw the pain on his face.

I remember kids in the theater getting traumatized as fuck at that scene. I've never head so many cries of "Mommy, I'm scared!" at one time, before or since.

Mally_G;1983326 said:
Ironhide getting his head blown off while at point blank range looking up at Megatron was the 1st.

[video=youtube;4FhelgV5qHM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FhelgV5qHM[/video]

"Such heroic nonsense!"

I say that scene was one of the coldest, most gangsta moments EVER in film. I remember hearing parents gasping at that.
 
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Mally_G;1983326 said:
When Duke got put into that coma, I was mad, even as a child, because I wanted him to die. A stiffened snake to the heart with significant blood splatter, and all he does is go into a coma. That was like the 2nd or 3rd coma Duke got put into during the cartoon run. The first being during the Pyramid of Darkness mini series/movie.

When Prime died, it sent chills through my body as a kid and the entire theater was silent. My mother laughed. When they were killing all the Autobots, I couldn't believe what I was seeing because they didn't get hit "like that" in the regular cartoon, but I knew they were getting killed because of the graphic nature they were getting murked. I knew there was no coming back from flashing eyes, getting shot in the chest until it explodes, and smoke coming out of the mouth. I think Prowls death was the 2nd worst in the entire movie because you saw the pain on his face. Ironhide getting his head blown off while at point blank range looking up at Megatron was the 1st.

This belongs in the 80's appteciation thread, u forgot this is the michael bay version. Bays version was so bad u got sidetracked.

Mally G - "in the cartoon u had this,u had that, hold up what were we talkin about again?oh yea that garbage."

Look I guess its a matter of prefrence and this is without comparing it 2 the cartoon the movie alone was unbearable to watch. I was completely annoyed throughout thee entire film wondering when the action was gonna start only to be let down by the finale. If this film was considered entertaining in terms of comedy fine, but in no way shape or form was it the action pack flick backed by a fair to good storyline which I "expected" to see. In all honesty ill take the first teenage mutant ninga turtle flick over the transformer remake. Off course nobody expects a 100% adaption but imo it wasnt even close.

Raphael vs foot soldier scene > transformer remake
 
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Mally_G;1983326 said:
When Duke got put into that coma, I was mad, even as a child, because I wanted him to die. A stiffened snake to the heart with significant blood splatter, and all he does is go into a coma. That was like the 2nd or 3rd coma Duke got put into during the cartoon run. The first being during the Pyramid of Darkness mini series/movie.

When Prime died, it sent chills through my body as a kid and the entire theater was silent. My mother laughed. When they were killing all the Autobots, I couldn't believe what I was seeing because they didn't get hit "like that" in the regular cartoon, but I knew they were getting killed because of the graphic nature they were getting murked. I knew there was no coming back from flashing eyes, getting shot in the chest until it explodes, and smoke coming out of the mouth. I think Prowls death was the 2nd worst in the entire movie because you saw the pain on his face. Ironhide getting his head blown off while at point blank range looking up at Megatron was the 1st.

my nigga, u pretty much summed up how EXACTLY i felt lol!!! i was pissed to that duke didn't die. i think that would've put gi joe in epic status. b/c i can't figure out how all these mofos are bustin guns, missles, lasers, bombs, and whateva. but nann nunn nada NOBODY is gettin hit!!! not one flesh wound!! mofo on both sides wasting their financial resources replacing the vehicles! lol

as for transformers, u was dead on. as soon as megatron busted thru the autobot ship, and yelled "DIE AUTOBOT!", we shoud've known the movie wasn't gonna be ANYTHING like the cartoon series. lol.

prowls death...epic.
megatron blowin ironhide away...epic.
prime's death...SUPER EPIC.
starscream's death...epic mixed wit he had that comin a looooooooong time ago
ultra magnus blowin the hell up...ehh.not like he wanted the responsibility of carryin the matrix to begin wit
unicron transforming....SUPREME EPICNESS

bonus epic...

arcee draggin the bodies of the dead autobots, and seeing wheeljack's mangled body....epic shock
 
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not this again!;1983637 said:
I remember kids in the theater getting traumatized as fuck at that scene. I've never head so many cries of "Mommy, I'm scared!" at one time, before or since.

[video=youtube;4FhelgV5qHM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FhelgV5qHM[/video]

"Such heroic nonsense!"

I say that scene was one of the coldest, most gangsta moments EVER in film. I remember hearing parents gasping at that.

man hell yeah. i almost had megatron under the same umbrella as cobra commander. but that scene alone, shot him to epic coldness. for my nigga ironhide *pour a lil engeron patron for that mofo*
 
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clairascanbe;1983689 said:
This belongs in the 80's appteciation thread, u forgot this is the michael bay version. Bays version was so bad u got sidetracked.

Mally G - "in the cartoon u had this,u had that, hold up what were we talkin about again?oh yea that garbage."

Look I guess its a matter of prefrence and this is without comparing it 2 the cartoon the movie alone was unbearable to watch. I was completely annoyed throughout thee entire film wondering when the action was gonna start only to be let down by the finale. If this film was considered entertaining in terms of comedy fine, but in no way shape or form was it the action pack flick backed by a fair to good storyline which I "expected" to see. In all honesty ill take the first teenage mutant ninga turtle flick over the transformer remake. Off course nobody expects a 100% adaption but imo it wasnt even close.

Raphael vs foot soldier scene > transformer remake

yeah raphael gettin droppin thru the skylight was trill.
 
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Well breaking news, G.I. Joe sequel just got green-lit for August of 2012 but guess what, everyone was fired accept Snakeyes, Storm Shadow and Duke. Looks like they took my advice and fired everyone, lol, it's going to be a full reboot but they kept the main characters from the 1st movie. A lot of the cast members are upset their contracts weren't renewed. Even the studio realized that movie was a let down. Hopefully the sequel is better but there is no way "G.I. Joe" the movie is seeing any of the "Transformers" including "Fallen".
 
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rapmastermind;2174184 said:
Well breaking news, G.I. Joe sequel just got green-lit for August of 2012 but guess what, everyone was fired accept Snakeyes, Storm Shadow and Duke. Looks like they took my advice and fired everyone, lol, it's going to be a full reboot but they kept the main characters from the 1st movie. A lot of the cast members are upset their contracts weren't renewed. Even the studio realized that movie was a let down. Hopefully the sequel is better but there is no way "G.I. Joe" the movie is seeing any of the "Transformers" including "Fallen".

YES!!!!! hell they should've fired that mofo who played duke as well. the movie was straight crap!! bump it, fire snake eyes as well. when have u seen snake eyes built like a linebacker? ehh, either way i'm glad they fired a majority of the cast. maybe now the writers will pay attention to the characters of g.i. joe and get it right this time.

baroness as an american? gtfohwtbs!!
 
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