G.I. Joe and Transformers

[nicky the don]

Forget the cartoons, the GI Joe comics were much better. But the movie was totally trash. Duke was a bitch. Destro wore a mask, not nanotech. Ripcord? They should've put in Stalker. And they should've had Road Block. Cobra Commander working for Destro? And the brother of Baroness? And the #1 blunder, DENNIS QUAID AS HAWK???? I did like how they did Zartan and the way his face'll change.

 

[Biggwillie]

Someone stop me when I get OFF story line here......Cobra had an evil terrorist plot, Cobra commander was the leader, Destro had a metal headpiece, Stomshadow had white on, Duke was the leader of G.I. Joe, Scarlett had red hair and used a crossbow, Snakeyes had all back on and didnt talk, Ripcord was played by a black character, both sides had high tech weapons,.......

Im still waiting for someone to stop me when my arguement does not reflect G.I Joe vs Cobra.............

 

[Biggwillie]

Someone stop me when I get ON storyline........Devistator forms into a vaccume with tenticles, Megatron does not form into a gun or even has one on his arm, (isnt the point of a transformer to, uh, TRANSFORM??? if i wanted to see a regular robot i would rather have seen Bender or the robot from Pee-Wee's Playhouse), the humans are the ones who acctually stop the Decepticons, Bumblebee kicks *ss instead of getting his *ss kicked? of all the autobots thats the one who doesnt die?.....

Im still waiting for someone to stop me when my arguement reflects the left field, made on Mars, storyline known as the Transformer movie.

 

[Recaptimus_Prime360]

Forget the cartoons, the GI Joe comics were much better. But the movie was totally trash. Duke was a bitch. Destro wore a mask, not nanotech. Ripcord? They should've put in Stalker. And they should've had Road Block. Cobra Commander working for Destro? And the brother of Baroness? And the #1 blunder, DENNIS QUAID AS HAWK???? I did like how they did Zartan and the way his face'll change.

@ the bolded...honestly i think that's the only person they got right.

 

[MR.CJ]

Transformers>>>>>G.I. Joe

the only thing i liked about g.i. joe is snake eyes vs storm shadow.

 

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[lamontbdc]

WTF that GI Joe movie was a pure joke compared to the cartoon. I still haven't figured out who the fuck Adobsee was supposed to be. It was just bad and not even close. Cobra Commander and Destro were wack as shit. The 1st transformers was good, they just dropped the ball with the 2nd movie.

 

[robdaze151]

Adobesse=Heavy duty

 

[earth two superman]

gi joe - no. awful

transformers 1 - YES. a borderline classic IMO.

Transformers 2 - NO. godawful movie. possibly one of the worst sequels ever.

 

[joshuaboy]

Isn't Scarlett Duke's girl? And later attracted to Snake Eyes? How did Ripcord get into the equation?

Killed off Cover Girl as if she was just a simple MP.

Cobra Commander's origin is way off - although I think his true origin would be too deep for non-fans of the old series.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

lol yeah T/S you are wilding thinking that they did a good job with GI Joe. Don't simplify the impact GI Joe had on a generation. Until this thread, most of us even forgot they did a remake. After I saw the movie as a kid, I was running around screaming "Cobra-lalalalalalalalala" for months.

GI Joe made kids WANT to be a GI Joe. To me that is what makes a remake "good." When you watched these cartoons as a kid you WANTED to relive every moment of the cartoon as your favorite character. I don't care what kind of special effects you can throw in the movie. I don't care what ground breaking hollywood cast you bring together. If the director cannot make me relive my childhood, or make a generation of kids say "oh shit I need to go home and research this story" then they FAILED.

That's it. Point blank. No argument needed.

It didn't spawn any GI Joe cartoons. No GI Joe video games. No GI Joe lunchboxes. Nothing. That's called a failure in every sense of the word. Directors need to stop making movies just to make movies. Its disgusting.

 

[ex-soldier]

Neither of them did justice to the original stories. They might have seemed good to people who did not follow them growing up, but to fans, no.

That aside, they were entertaining movies.

C/S......................

 

[rapmastermind]

lol yeah T/S you are wilding thinking that they did a good job with GI Joe. Don't simplify the impact GI Joe had on a generation. Until this thread, most of us even forgot they did a remake. After I saw the movie as a kid, I was running around screaming "Cobra-lalalalalalalalala" for months.

GI Joe made kids WANT to be a GI Joe. To me that is what makes a remake "good." When you watched these cartoons as a kid you WANTED to relive every moment of the cartoon as your favorite character. I don't care what kind of special effects you can throw in the movie. I don't care what ground breaking hollywood cast you bring together. If the director cannot make me relive my childhood, or make a generation of kids say "oh shit I need to go home and research this story" then they FAILED.

That's it. Point blank. No argument needed.

It didn't spawn any GI Joe cartoons. No GI Joe video games. No GI Joe lunchboxes. Nothing. That's called a failure in every sense of the word. Directors need to stop making movies just to make movies. Its disgusting.

Exactly, any kid that grew up in the 1980's and watched the G.I. Joe Animated Series and Movie as well as had the action figures which were the best Toys due to their flexibility (He man and other toys had nothing on G.I. Joe). The Movie did not live up at all. When I watched "Transformers Part 1" the effects alone brought me back to my childhood, Hearing Optimus Prime's Voice brought be back to my childhood. And though "Part II" wasn't the best sequel, it wasn't as bad as "G.I. Joe" movie. I also think "Transformers 3" will end up redeeming the series. But for "G.I. Joe" The casting was not good, the story was weak. I know it was an orgin story but they didn't do a good job. The Critics agree as it got worst reviews even than "Transformers".

They spent all that money on budget and the effects were not on the level of "Transformers". Say what you want about the "Transformers" series, the film only made the brand more popular, it sprung up new cartoons and new toy lines. 70's and 80's babies who are now adults, their kids are now in love with Transformers. G.I. Joe is not on the same status as it was in the 80's and this movie is why. THEY FAILED, period. And I hope they fire everyone and reboot the entire series. What's sad is this is the perfect era for a G.I. Movie, like someone said, "Expendables" is more G.I. Joe than G.I. Joe movie and even the military in "Transformers" feels more like G.I. Joe than that movie. Sure they had some of the characters down but the movie was not good. What upsets me is G.I. Joe in the 80's was more popular than Transformers, that the impact it had. Not anymore. Transformers is now a more popular franchise and the films are one of the biggest reasons why.

Oh and for the record:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Transformers and G.I Joe Live Action Movies. When Duke and Opitmus died, it actually hurt me as a child, that's the emotional power these cartoons had on a child of the 80's.

 

[Rocket Kidd]

imma roll with Transformers

 

[Yung_Souf_Money]

The original is better than the movie version.

i wish they couldve looked at the scripts of the cartoons and made it based off those instead of going overboard

i wonder why in the hell..marlon wayans was in G.I.Joe?no matter how high niggaz got some black person gotta be the sterotype

 

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[Biggwillie]

Could you imagine seeing Gung Ho and fucking shipwreck on the bigscreen?

Comon son, you know just as well as I do, they woulda looked gay as fuck, I'd rather the Joe's look like they are actually in military reg'ed gear versus a bunch of back up singers for the village people...

It felt like an episode of GI Joe, I took it for what it was worth, ya'll acting like the cartoons were screen written masterpieces, I strongly suggest ya'll go back and rewatch some episodes and remmeber how corny it really got from time to time, I think they did the show justice with the movie... It's real people trying to emulate cartoon and comic book characters, what did you expect? The Dark Knight?
Nolan Got ya'll spoiled for real, how ya'll gon go to a GI Joe movie and complain about how unrealistic it is...

Thank you Jamel. My whole gripe is how far off base the movie was. Now if you look back at both of the cartoon the overall plot was the same every day. G.I. Joe vs Cobra, Autobots vs Decepticons. Thats wast it. Different characters and different location every day but same plot. We as kids didnt care we just wanted to see that action. I will admit that some of the story line in G.I. Joe was not the same as the cartoon like the Baroness. I will give you that. But what was "terrible" "garbage" or "trash" about the overall plot of G.I. Joe vs Cobra. When I watched G.I. Joe 98% of the characters were like I remembered from the cartoon. Transformers how ever was a good movie and got good reviews from people who wanted to see a "good movie". Not fans of the orignal series. If they had the disclaimer of "Micheal Bey's Transformers" then I couldnt argue because its his adaptation but to just put it out there like this is the Transformer story line just like you remember from the 80's is misleading. The Transfomer movie was basicly Megatron vs the humans. This human has a chip or something inside him that is valuable and Megatron want it. I dont remember that at all from the cartoon.

 

[Nthngis4vr]

I liked G.I. Joe better than Transformers . Transformers 2 was just terrible.

And honestly, I don't even remember the storylines all like that. My brothers were into GI Joe.

 

[joshuaboy]

Thank you Jamel. My whole gripe is how far off base the movie was. Now if you look back at both of the cartoon the overall plot was the same every day. G.I. Joe vs Cobra, Autobots vs Decepticons. Thats wast it. Different characters and different location every day but same plot. We as kids didnt care we just wanted to see that action. I will admit that some of the story line in G.I. Joe was not the same as the cartoon like the Baroness. I will give you that. But what was "terrible" "garbage" or "trash" about the overall plot of G.I. Joe vs Cobra. When I watched G.I. Joe 98% of the characters were like I remembered from the cartoon. Transformers how ever was a good movie and got good reviews from people who wanted to see a "good movie". Not fans of the orignal series. If they had the disclaimer of "Micheal Bey's Transformers" then I couldnt argue because its his adaptation but to just put it out there like this is the Transformer story line just like you remember from the 80's is misleading. The Transfomer movie was basicly Megatron vs the humans. This human has a chip or something inside him that is valuable and Megatron want it. I dont remember that at all from the cartoon.

As kids, we might have only cared for the action, but the stories stuck with us and that is what turned me off most. Some of the story lines that they changed didn't need to be changed. Same with Clash of the Titans. What was changed didn't need to be. As I said, from the outside looking in, G.I. Joe was more entertaining. I left the movies very disappointed because of the changes made to the characters and other aspects. But I went back to watch it again with an open mind and tried to look at it from the point of a stand alone movie and not as I remember it as a kid, and I enjoyed it.

Transformers was hit and miss. And we know Jazz had to be the one to die - he was black.

The only movie that stuck true recently was A-Team.