G&S: WHO'S MORE AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT RACE...BLACK OR WHITE FOLKS?

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FuriousOne;4623430 said:
janklow;4622771 said:
FuriousOne;4622378 said:
The only way i see black kids and white kids intermingling is if one gives up a part of or all of his culture and a new culture is born.
does no one on this great internet of ours ever see black kids and white kids intermingling?

Even in NYC, rarely and when i do, one is usually adopting the culture of the other fully and shitting on their peoples culture/get excluded, or it's superficial. And i see plenty of token white or black kids. Further, [n]something has to be lost for us to coexist[/b]. Not saying it's a bad thing but it could be depending on how much you are willing to throw away of yourself or accept your history. Then you have people telling you the origin of your culture and how it should be viewed.

I still don't see these people of mention overtly talking about particular facets of their history without fallout or complete unawareness of how it would affect the person your conversing with. I've seen this all first hand. I've had a group of white people ask me how i felt about gentrification like I'm supposed to give them a feel good story about how my people are priced out and profiled.

You got your selfish agenda all figured out coming and going. Can you say open-ended contract? miser Boss Man.

 
heyslick;4623522 said:
FuriousOne;4623430 said:
janklow;4622771 said:
FuriousOne;4622378 said:
The only way i see black kids and white kids intermingling is if one gives up a part of or all of his culture and a new culture is born.
does no one on this great internet of ours ever see black kids and white kids intermingling?

Even in NYC, rarely and when i do, one is usually adopting the culture of the other fully and shitting on their peoples culture/get excluded, or it's superficial. And i see plenty of token white or black kids. Further, something has to be lost for us to coexist. Not saying it's a bad thing but it could be depending on how much you are willing to throw away of yourself or accept your history. Then you have people telling you the origin of your culture and how it should be viewed.

I still don't see these people of mention overtly talking about particular facets of their history without fallout or complete unawareness of how it would affect the person your conversing with. I've seen this all first hand. I've had a group of white people ask me how i felt about gentrification like I'm supposed to give them a feel good story about how my people are priced out and profiled.

You got your selfish agenda all figured out coming and going. Can you say open-ended contract? miser Boss Man.

laugh riot coming from you. I thought we couldn't figure anything out according you Heyslick. You messed up your out of context bolding agenda. I'll fix that for you. But serious, what are you implying? Is this is part of a grand scheme along with my kill list for whitey as you mentioned once?
 
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FuriousOne;4623605 said:
heyslick;4623522 said:
FuriousOne;4623430 said:
janklow;4622771 said:
FuriousOne;4622378 said:
The only way i see black kids and white kids intermingling is if one gives up a part of or all of his culture and a new culture is born.
does no one on this great internet of ours ever see black kids and white kids intermingling?

Even in NYC, rarely and when i do, one is usually adopting the culture of the other fully and shitting on their peoples culture/get excluded, or it's superficial. And i see plenty of token white or black kids. Further, something has to be lost for us to coexist. Not saying it's a bad thing but it could be depending on how much you are willing to throw away of yourself or accept your history. Then you have people telling you the origin of your culture and how it should be viewed.

I still don't see these people of mention overtly talking about particular facets of their history without fallout or complete unawareness of how it would affect the person your conversing with. I've seen this all first hand. I've had a group of white people ask me how i felt about gentrification like I'm supposed to give them a feel good story about how my people are priced out and profiled.

You got your selfish agenda all figured out coming and going. Can you say open-ended contract? miser Boss Man.

laugh riot coming from you. I thought we couldn't figure anything out according you Heyslick[/n]. You messed up your out of context bolding agenda. I'll fix that for you. But serious, what are you implying? Is this is part of a grand scheme along with my kill list for whitey as you mentioned once?


I didn't say anything about things - I just played along with your agenda in a civil fashion - yeah you be right I screwed up my/the bolded area - n is right next 2 the letter b, I got the italic area right. You're the Captain of your own ship,right?

 
heyslick;4623960 said:
FuriousOne;4623605 said:
heyslick;4623522 said:
FuriousOne;4623430 said:
janklow;4622771 said:
FuriousOne;4622378 said:
The only way i see black kids and white kids intermingling is if one gives up a part of or all of his culture and a new culture is born.
does no one on this great internet of ours ever see black kids and white kids intermingling?

Even in NYC, rarely and when i do, one is usually adopting the culture of the other fully and shitting on their peoples culture/get excluded, or it's superficial. And i see plenty of token white or black kids. Further, something has to be lost for us to coexist. Not saying it's a bad thing but it could be depending on how much you are willing to throw away of yourself or accept your history. Then you have people telling you the origin of your culture and how it should be viewed.

I still don't see these people of mention overtly talking about particular facets of their history without fallout or complete unawareness of how it would affect the person your conversing with. I've seen this all first hand. I've had a group of white people ask me how i felt about gentrification like I'm supposed to give them a feel good story about how my people are priced out and profiled.

You got your selfish agenda all figured out coming and going. Can you say open-ended contract? miser Boss Man.

laugh riot coming from you. I thought we couldn't figure anything out according you Heyslick[/n]. You messed up your out of context bolding agenda. I'll fix that for you. But serious, what are you implying? Is this is part of a grand scheme along with my kill list for whitey as you mentioned once?


I didn't say anything about things - I just played along with your agenda in a civil fashion - yeah you be right I screwed up my/the bolded area - n is right next 2 the letter b, I got the italic area right. You're the Captain of your own ship,right?



There's that N again. At least it's bold this time. Telling somebody they have a selfish agenda isn't being civil. Again, what agenda? And how are you not here with your own agenda with your constant focus on racial post? I don't get your "Captain of your own ship" and "Open-ended contract" statements. How bout not speaking in code this time? Are you saying i have a unique perspective or my words are uncommon? I don't think I'm saying anything all that unheard of. Do i have an answer for every thing that doesn't fit the mold? You mad?
 
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FuriousOne;4623430 said:
Further, something has to be lost for us to coexist. Not saying it's a bad thing but it could be depending on how much you are willing to throw away of yourself or accept your history.
i don't think you have to "lose" anything so much as you have to buy into a more general American culture that includes, well, generally everything. i mean, everyone's always going to have their personal culture based on their background (which is more than just race).

FuriousOne;4623430 said:
Then you have people telling you the origin of your culture and how it should be viewed.
yeah, but that pretty much happens to everyone and isn't always a racial thing. and you can always disagree/tell them to fuck off/whatever.

FuriousOne;4623430 said:
I still don't see these people of mention overtly talking about particular facets of their history without fallout or complete unawareness of how it would affect the person your conversing with.
well, wouldn't you want people having an awareness of how a particular facet of someone's history would affect that person? or am i not getting where you're going with this?

 
janklow;4626188 said:
i don't think you have to "lose" anything so much as you have to buy into a more general American culture that includes, well, generally everything. i mean, everyone's always going to have their personal culture based on their background (which is more than just race).

The general American culture is mainly considered a white culture and pop culture (which are mainly white artist). Black culture is normally diluted to be made more palatable. There is a respect for our culture underground but those people are labeled hippie anarchist, and pretend hipsters, and wiggers.

janklow;4626188 said:
well, wouldn't you want people having an awareness of how a particular facet of someone's history would affect that person? or am i not getting where you're going with this?

I'm saying they don't have that awareness as evidenced by peoples quickness to brush off our concerns as us just complaining again. I used my example to illuminate the lack of tact when dealing with culturally and racially sensitive situations and all of the factors involved.

 
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FuriousOne;4626582 said:
The general American culture is mainly considered a white culture and pop culture (which are mainly white artist). Black culture is normally diluted to be made more palatable.
what i would say is, let's not just DECIDE that "general American culture" is "white culture" and/or will always be "white culture" and participate in it. let's say, for example, that rock and/or roll music is a notable facet of American culture: was that something just white people did? or something they stole completely intact and had no effect on?

FuriousOne;4626582 said:
well, wouldn't you want people having an awareness of how a particular facet of someone's history would affect that person? or am i not getting where you're going with this?

I'm saying they don't have that awareness as evidenced by peoples quickness to brush off our concerns as us just complaining again.[/quote]okay, but i think there's a middle ground between "unawareness" and "a fight starts immediately." maybe this position comes from interacting with varied races of people?

i just don't associate with Scientologists. fuck THOSE people.
 
FuriousOne;4624252 said:
heyslick;4623960 said:
FuriousOne;4623605 said:
heyslick;4623522 said:
FuriousOne;4623430 said:
janklow;4622771 said:
FuriousOne;4622378 said:
The only way i see black kids and white kids intermingling is if one gives up a part of or all of his culture and a new culture is born.
does no one on this great internet of ours ever see black kids and white kids intermingling?

Even in NYC, rarely and when i do, one is usually adopting the culture of the other fully and shitting on their peoples culture/get excluded, or it's superficial. And i see plenty of token white or black kids. Further, something has to be lost for us to coexist. Not saying it's a bad thing but it could be depending on how much you are willing to throw away of yourself or accept your history. Then you have people telling you the origin of your culture and how it should be viewed.

I still don't see these people of mention overtly talking about particular facets of their history without fallout or complete unawareness of how it would affect the person your conversing with. I've seen this all first hand. I've had a group of white people ask me how i felt about gentrification like I'm supposed to give them a feel good story about how my people are priced out and profiled.

You got your selfish agenda all figured out coming and going. Can you say open-ended contract? miser Boss Man.

laugh riot coming from you. I thought we couldn't figure anything out according you Heyslick[/n]. You messed up your out of context bolding agenda. I'll fix that for you. But serious, what are you implying? Is this is part of a grand scheme along with my kill list for whitey as you mentioned once?


I didn't say anything about things - I just played along with your agenda in a civil fashion - yeah you be right I screwed up my/the bolded area - n is right next 2 the letter b, I got the italic area right. You're the Captain of your own ship,right?



There's that N again. At least it's bold this time. Telling somebody they have a selfish agenda isn't being civil. Again, what agenda? And how are you not here with your own agenda with your constant focus on racial post? I don't get your "Captain of your own ship" and "Open-ended contract" statements. How bout not speaking in code this time? Are you saying i have a unique perspective or my words are uncommon? I don't think I'm saying anything all that unheard of. Do i have an answer for every thing that doesn't fit the mold? You mad?


Aren't you wanting things to go the way YOU want them to go & you're one-sided - SO your trying to steer the vessel & make changes according to your standards - therefore IMO that makes you the Captain. OK now you've mentioned how you want things to go & how it should be done - well then lets make a contract and layout the rules & btw yours is so open (front end and the back end) with no specifications whatsoever,and its very one sided. BTW close ended type contracts are more binding/specific

 
heyslick;4628114 said:
FuriousOne;4624252 said:
heyslick;4623960 said:
FuriousOne;4623605 said:
heyslick;4623522 said:
FuriousOne;4623430 said:
janklow;4622771 said:
FuriousOne;4622378 said:
The only way i see black kids and white kids intermingling is if one gives up a part of or all of his culture and a new culture is born.
does no one on this great internet of ours ever see black kids and white kids intermingling?

Even in NYC, rarely and when i do, one is usually adopting the culture of the other fully and shitting on their peoples culture/get excluded, or it's superficial. And i see plenty of token white or black kids. Further, something has to be lost for us to coexist. Not saying it's a bad thing but it could be depending on how much you are willing to throw away of yourself or accept your history. Then you have people telling you the origin of your culture and how it should be viewed.

I still don't see these people of mention overtly talking about particular facets of their history without fallout or complete unawareness of how it would affect the person your conversing with. I've seen this all first hand. I've had a group of white people ask me how i felt about gentrification like I'm supposed to give them a feel good story about how my people are priced out and profiled.

You got your selfish agenda all figured out coming and going. Can you say open-ended contract? miser Boss Man.

laugh riot coming from you. I thought we couldn't figure anything out according you Heyslick[/n]. You messed up your out of context bolding agenda. I'll fix that for you. But serious, what are you implying? Is this is part of a grand scheme along with my kill list for whitey as you mentioned once?


I didn't say anything about things - I just played along with your agenda in a civil fashion - yeah you be right I screwed up my/the bolded area - n is right next 2 the letter b, I got the italic area right. You're the Captain of your own ship,right?



There's that N again. At least it's bold this time. Telling somebody they have a selfish agenda isn't being civil. Again, what agenda? And how are you not here with your own agenda with your constant focus on racial post? I don't get your "Captain of your own ship" and "Open-ended contract" statements. How bout not speaking in code this time? Are you saying i have a unique perspective or my words are uncommon? I don't think I'm saying anything all that unheard of. Do i have an answer for every thing that doesn't fit the mold? You mad?


Aren't you wanting things to go the way YOU want them to go & you're one-sided - SO your trying to steer the vessel & make changes according to your standards - therefore IMO that makes you the Captain. OK now you've mentioned how you want things to go & how it should be done - well then lets make a contract and layout the rules & btw yours is so open (front end and the back end) with no specifications whatsoever,and its very one sided. BTW close ended type contracts are more binding/specific



yeah i got what you're saying. Thanks for repeating it verbatim. I still don't see how you got all that from what i said. I just presented my observation, not a suggestion. I thought i offered a bit of a balance in how both sides view the situation. But you shouldn't be the one casting stones in here.
 
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FuriousOne;4628158 said:
heyslick;4628114 said:
FuriousOne;4624252 said:
heyslick;4623960 said:
FuriousOne;4623605 said:
heyslick;4623522 said:
FuriousOne;4623430 said:
janklow;4622771 said:
FuriousOne;4622378 said:
The only way i see black kids and white kids intermingling is if one gives up a part of or all of his culture and a new culture is born.
does no one on this great internet of ours ever see black kids and white kids intermingling?

Even in NYC, rarely and when i do, one is usually adopting the culture of the other fully and shitting on their peoples culture/get excluded, or it's superficial. And i see plenty of token white or black kids. Further, something has to be lost for us to coexist. Not saying it's a bad thing but it could be depending on how much you are willing to throw away of yourself or accept your history. Then you have people telling you the origin of your culture and how it should be viewed.

I still don't see these people of mention overtly talking about particular facets of their history without fallout or complete unawareness of how it would affect the person your conversing with. I've seen this all first hand. I've had a group of white people ask me how i felt about gentrification like I'm supposed to give them a feel good story about how my people are priced out and profiled.

You got your selfish agenda all figured out coming and going. Can you say open-ended contract? miser Boss Man.

laugh riot coming from you. I thought we couldn't figure anything out according you Heyslick[/n]. You messed up your out of context bolding agenda. I'll fix that for you. But serious, what are you implying? Is this is part of a grand scheme along with my kill list for whitey as you mentioned once?


I didn't say anything about things - I just played along with your agenda in a civil fashion - yeah you be right I screwed up my/the bolded area - n is right next 2 the letter b, I got the italic area right. You're the Captain of your own ship,right?



There's that N again. At least it's bold this time. Telling somebody they have a selfish agenda isn't being civil. Again, what agenda? And how are you not here with your own agenda with your constant focus on racial post? I don't get your "Captain of your own ship" and "Open-ended contract" statements. How bout not speaking in code this time? Are you saying i have a unique perspective or my words are uncommon? I don't think I'm saying anything all that unheard of. Do i have an answer for every thing that doesn't fit the mold? You mad?


Aren't you wanting things to go the way YOU want them to go & you're one-sided - SO your trying to steer the vessel & make changes according to your standards - therefore IMO that makes you the Captain. OK now you've mentioned how you want things to go & how it should be done - well then lets make a contract and layout the rules & btw yours is so open (front end and the back end) with no specifications whatsoever,and its very one sided. BTW close ended type contracts are more binding/specific



yeah i got what you're saying. Thanks for repeating it verbatim. I still don't see how you got all that from what i said. I just presented my observation, not a suggestion. I thought i offered a bit of a balance in how both sides view the situation. But you shouldn't be the one casting stones in here.


Maybe I like to rock the boat - so to speak? Throwing things just isn't my style.

 
heyslick;4628192 said:
FuriousOne;4628158 said:
heyslick;4628114 said:
FuriousOne;4624252 said:
heyslick;4623960 said:
FuriousOne;4623605 said:
heyslick;4623522 said:
FuriousOne;4623430 said:
janklow;4622771 said:
FuriousOne;4622378 said:
The only way i see black kids and white kids intermingling is if one gives up a part of or all of his culture and a new culture is born.
does no one on this great internet of ours ever see black kids and white kids intermingling?

Even in NYC, rarely and when i do, one is usually adopting the culture of the other fully and shitting on their peoples culture/get excluded, or it's superficial. And i see plenty of token white or black kids. Further, something has to be lost for us to coexist. Not saying it's a bad thing but it could be depending on how much you are willing to throw away of yourself or accept your history. Then you have people telling you the origin of your culture and how it should be viewed.

I still don't see these people of mention overtly talking about particular facets of their history without fallout or complete unawareness of how it would affect the person your conversing with. I've seen this all first hand. I've had a group of white people ask me how i felt about gentrification like I'm supposed to give them a feel good story about how my people are priced out and profiled.

You got your selfish agenda all figured out coming and going. Can you say open-ended contract? miser Boss Man.

laugh riot coming from you. I thought we couldn't figure anything out according you Heyslick[/n]. You messed up your out of context bolding agenda. I'll fix that for you. But serious, what are you implying? Is this is part of a grand scheme along with my kill list for whitey as you mentioned once?


I didn't say anything about things - I just played along with your agenda in a civil fashion - yeah you be right I screwed up my/the bolded area - n is right next 2 the letter b, I got the italic area right. You're the Captain of your own ship,right?



There's that N again. At least it's bold this time. Telling somebody they have a selfish agenda isn't being civil. Again, what agenda? And how are you not here with your own agenda with your constant focus on racial post? I don't get your "Captain of your own ship" and "Open-ended contract" statements. How bout not speaking in code this time? Are you saying i have a unique perspective or my words are uncommon? I don't think I'm saying anything all that unheard of. Do i have an answer for every thing that doesn't fit the mold? You mad?


Aren't you wanting things to go the way YOU want them to go & you're one-sided - SO your trying to steer the vessel & make changes according to your standards - therefore IMO that makes you the Captain. OK now you've mentioned how you want things to go & how it should be done - well then lets make a contract and layout the rules & btw yours is so open (front end and the back end) with no specifications whatsoever,and its very one sided. BTW close ended type contracts are more binding/specific



yeah i got what you're saying. Thanks for repeating it verbatim. I still don't see how you got all that from what i said. I just presented my observation, not a suggestion. I thought i offered a bit of a balance in how both sides view the situation. But you shouldn't be the one casting stones in here.


Maybe I like to rock the boat - so to speak? Throwing things just isn't my style.



Or maybe you're stuck on one topic because your boat is caught on a reef.

 
FuriousOne;4628194 said:
heyslick;4628192 said:
FuriousOne;4628158 said:
heyslick;4628114 said:
FuriousOne;4624252 said:
heyslick;4623960 said:
FuriousOne;4623605 said:
heyslick;4623522 said:
FuriousOne;4623430 said:
janklow;4622771 said:
FuriousOne;4622378 said:
The only way i see black kids and white kids intermingling is if one gives up a part of or all of his culture and a new culture is born.
does no one on this great internet of ours ever see black kids and white kids intermingling?

Even in NYC, rarely and when i do, one is usually adopting the culture of the other fully and shitting on their peoples culture/get excluded, or it's superficial. And i see plenty of token white or black kids. Further, something has to be lost for us to coexist. Not saying it's a bad thing but it could be depending on how much you are willing to throw away of yourself or accept your history. Then you have people telling you the origin of your culture and how it should be viewed.

I still don't see these people of mention overtly talking about particular facets of their history without fallout or complete unawareness of how it would affect the person your conversing with. I've seen this all first hand. I've had a group of white people ask me how i felt about gentrification like I'm supposed to give them a feel good story about how my people are priced out and profiled.

You got your selfish agenda all figured out coming and going. Can you say open-ended contract? miser Boss Man.

laugh riot coming from you. I thought we couldn't figure anything out according you Heyslick[/n]. You messed up your out of context bolding agenda. I'll fix that for you. But serious, what are you implying? Is this is part of a grand scheme along with my kill list for whitey as you mentioned once?


I didn't say anything about things - I just played along with your agenda in a civil fashion - yeah you be right I screwed up my/the bolded area - n is right next 2 the letter b, I got the italic area right. You're the Captain of your own ship,right?



There's that N again. At least it's bold this time. Telling somebody they have a selfish agenda isn't being civil. Again, what agenda? And how are you not here with your own agenda with your constant focus on racial post? I don't get your "Captain of your own ship" and "Open-ended contract" statements. How bout not speaking in code this time? Are you saying i have a unique perspective or my words are uncommon? I don't think I'm saying anything all that unheard of. Do i have an answer for every thing that doesn't fit the mold? You mad?


Aren't you wanting things to go the way YOU want them to go & you're one-sided - SO your trying to steer the vessel & make changes according to your standards - therefore IMO that makes you the Captain. OK now you've mentioned how you want things to go & how it should be done - well then lets make a contract and layout the rules & btw yours is so open (front end and the back end) with no specifications whatsoever,and its very one sided. BTW close ended type contracts are more binding/specific



yeah i got what you're saying. Thanks for repeating it verbatim. I still don't see how you got all that from what i said. I just presented my observation, not a suggestion. I thought i offered a bit of a balance in how both sides view the situation. But you shouldn't be the one casting stones in here.


Maybe I like to rock the boat - so to speak? Throwing things just isn't my style.



Or maybe you're stuck on one topic because your boat is caught on a reef.



LMAO!! say what Captain? you should be taking the blame,NOT me. I laid out the scenario and now you wanna make me the culprit - WOW! your unknowingly/willingly? playing the blame game now.

 
heyslick;4628200 said:
FuriousOne;4628194 said:
heyslick;4628192 said:
FuriousOne;4628158 said:
heyslick;4628114 said:
FuriousOne;4624252 said:
heyslick;4623960 said:
FuriousOne;4623605 said:
heyslick;4623522 said:
FuriousOne;4623430 said:
janklow;4622771 said:
FuriousOne;4622378 said:
The only way i see black kids and white kids intermingling is if one gives up a part of or all of his culture and a new culture is born.
does no one on this great internet of ours ever see black kids and white kids intermingling?

Even in NYC, rarely and when i do, one is usually adopting the culture of the other fully and shitting on their peoples culture/get excluded, or it's superficial. And i see plenty of token white or black kids. Further, something has to be lost for us to coexist. Not saying it's a bad thing but it could be depending on how much you are willing to throw away of yourself or accept your history. Then you have people telling you the origin of your culture and how it should be viewed.

I still don't see these people of mention overtly talking about particular facets of their history without fallout or complete unawareness of how it would affect the person your conversing with. I've seen this all first hand. I've had a group of white people ask me how i felt about gentrification like I'm supposed to give them a feel good story about how my people are priced out and profiled.

You got your selfish agenda all figured out coming and going. Can you say open-ended contract? miser Boss Man.

laugh riot coming from you. I thought we couldn't figure anything out according you Heyslick[/n]. You messed up your out of context bolding agenda. I'll fix that for you. But serious, what are you implying? Is this is part of a grand scheme along with my kill list for whitey as you mentioned once?


I didn't say anything about things - I just played along with your agenda in a civil fashion - yeah you be right I screwed up my/the bolded area - n is right next 2 the letter b, I got the italic area right. You're the Captain of your own ship,right?



There's that N again. At least it's bold this time. Telling somebody they have a selfish agenda isn't being civil. Again, what agenda? And how are you not here with your own agenda with your constant focus on racial post? I don't get your "Captain of your own ship" and "Open-ended contract" statements. How bout not speaking in code this time? Are you saying i have a unique perspective or my words are uncommon? I don't think I'm saying anything all that unheard of. Do i have an answer for every thing that doesn't fit the mold? You mad?


Aren't you wanting things to go the way YOU want them to go & you're one-sided - SO your trying to steer the vessel & make changes according to your standards - therefore IMO that makes you the Captain. OK now you've mentioned how you want things to go & how it should be done - well then lets make a contract and layout the rules & btw yours is so open (front end and the back end) with no specifications whatsoever,and its very one sided. BTW close ended type contracts are more binding/specific



yeah i got what you're saying. Thanks for repeating it verbatim. I still don't see how you got all that from what i said. I just presented my observation, not a suggestion. I thought i offered a bit of a balance in how both sides view the situation. But you shouldn't be the one casting stones in here.


Maybe I like to rock the boat - so to speak? Throwing things just isn't my style.



Or maybe you're stuck on one topic because your boat is caught on a reef.



LMAO!! say what Captain? you should be taking the blame,NOT me. I laid out the scenario and now you wanna make me the culprit - WOW! your unknowingly/willingly? playing the blame game now.



Just making an observation of your actions. I'm glad you finally said what you really mean.
 
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