G&S Debate challenege. Edward Snowden: Hero or traitor

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[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

Traitor to the USA. Hero to USA 's enemies.

He is a soldier. Soldiers dont betray their country no matter what. Soldiers dont dive in politics. Thats why being a soldier is so special.

Snowden knows it. So he must pay to his fuckery.

A.Q.A.

( always question authority )

And never follow orders blindly...simply bc its what's expected of you

The result of his action is weakening the alredy weakened diplomatic impact of his country. He signed up for this. When you serve your flag you are not an individual anymore, you become your country.

Yeah its a hard dilemma sometimes. Some of the german generals werent agreeing with the NAZI ideology. Yet they did their job, fighting for their country i.e Jodel.

lol @ snowden hurting america's diplomacy image and not the fact that they started a war over a lie or how they love to invade countries/start wars hurting their image, are y'all serious?

You as a canadian can criticize the US. Snowden ,by being a soldier, chose to SERVE and DIE for the US interests.

That s the main difference.

He wasn't a solider first of all, he was an intelligence contractor and even if he was a soldier, his allegiance is to the citizens and the constitution both of which are under attack, not anyone in the government or the government itself.

Second he never gave the information to American enemies, he made information available to our media. It's one thing to sell information for profit like double agent spies it's another to tell the media for no profit to yourself.

His task was to work and SHUT THE FUCK UP. Media is a weapon bruh sad you re not aware of it.

@sanchez its easy to sit at home and criticize those who die and get wounded for you to be safe. Also that children shooting argument to raise feelings has no effect on me.

As i said its a dilemma to serve in the military and secret services. Its not an easy job. However, leaking infos is a no go.

wtf u talkin bout "its easy to sit at home and criticize those who die and get wounded for you to be safe"

i dont agree with the way YOU think, not many other soldiers.. shit i mean if the government wasnt greedy for oil we wouldnt need all this "fighting for your freedom" bullshit we got going on now.

leaking info to the citizens letting them know they arent safe cause of their own government is a heroic act.

citizens >>>

The US cityzen have agreed on the PATRIOT ACT. They have reelected GEORGE BUSH and congressmen even.

it wad the people choice. As far as soldier, our main occupation is to serve the elected governement @sanchez.

If the US citizen want something else they will vote for something else. Its not the military business to make politics. Serving, dying for the country that s what we are here for.

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

Traitor to the USA. Hero to USA 's enemies.

He is a soldier. Soldiers dont betray their country no matter what. Soldiers dont dive in politics. Thats why being a soldier is so special.

Snowden knows it. So he must pay to his fuckery.

A.Q.A.

( always question authority )

And never follow orders blindly...simply bc its what's expected of you

The result of his action is weakening the alredy weakened diplomatic impact of his country. He signed up for this. When you serve your flag you are not an individual anymore, you become your country.

Yeah its a hard dilemma sometimes. Some of the german generals werent agreeing with the NAZI ideology. Yet they did their job, fighting for their country i.e Jodel.

lol @ snowden hurting america's diplomacy image and not the fact that they started a war over a lie or how they love to invade countries/start wars hurting their image, are y'all serious?

You as a canadian can criticize the US. Snowden ,by being a soldier, chose to SERVE and DIE for the US interests.

That s the main difference.

He wasn't a solider first of all, he was an intelligence contractor and even if he was a soldier, his allegiance is to the citizens and the constitution both of which are under attack, not anyone in the government or the government itself.

Second he never gave the information to American enemies, he made information available to our media. It's one thing to sell information for profit like double agent spies it's another to tell the media for no profit to yourself.

His task was to work and SHUT THE FUCK UP. Media is a weapon bruh sad you re not aware of it.

@sanchez its easy to sit at home and criticize those who die and get wounded for you to be safe. Also that children shooting argument to raise feelings has no effect on me.

As i said its a dilemma to serve in the military and secret services. Its not an easy job. However, leaking infos is a no go.

wtf u talkin bout "its easy to sit at home and criticize those who die and get wounded for you to be safe"

i dont agree with the way YOU think, not many other soldiers.. shit i mean if the government wasnt greedy for oil we wouldnt need all this "fighting for your freedom" bullshit we got going on now.

leaking info to the citizens letting them know they arent safe cause of their own government is a heroic act.

citizens >>>

The US cityzen have agreed on the PATRIOT ACT. They have reelected GEORGE BUSH and congressmen even.

it wad the people choice. As far as soldier, our main occupation is to serve the elected governement @sanchez.

If the US citizen want something else they will vote for something else. Its not the military business to make politics. Serving, dying for the country that s what we are here for.

so u mean the government has never lied to its people and everyone knew what would happen, and congressmen are just legit people with the best interest for the people?

word

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

Traitor to the USA. Hero to USA 's enemies.

He is a soldier. Soldiers dont betray their country no matter what. Soldiers dont dive in politics. Thats why being a soldier is so special.

Snowden knows it. So he must pay to his fuckery.

A.Q.A.

( always question authority )

And never follow orders blindly...simply bc its what's expected of you

The result of his action is weakening the alredy weakened diplomatic impact of his country. He signed up for this. When you serve your flag you are not an individual anymore, you become your country.

Yeah its a hard dilemma sometimes. Some of the german generals werent agreeing with the NAZI ideology. Yet they did their job, fighting for their country i.e Jodel.

Worst fucking example ever....for more than one reason...

And lol @ at it hurting diplomatic impact

Ain't u french nigga?

Yet you didnt give one of those fucking reason.

Thats why being in the military is not for everyone. We chose to make the ultimate sacrifoce in the name of our countries. We are not cityzens, we are the STATE REASON. . You cityzens can judge, but we sodiers not.

We follow instructions. The only thing i would never do is firing at my own people.

U need a reason as to why putting men, women and kids in ovens is a horrible order that should be ignored

Bruh its another subject . No derail please. We are talking about the dilema of serving and defending your country.

And i betta not see you make some jokes on jews this year. I was the only one to got at REX for his nazi outfit thread. I didnt see yoy react there.

Have you been deployed in the battlefield?

If no so you cannot understand that dilemma notion.

Bruh u don't follow orders blindly was my point. You brought up the Nazis and made the comparison... and simply bc I font defend Jews doesn't mean I'd be OK with executing them for being Jewish...I'm not a honkie

And your french...you pussies lift your skirts for the enemy in every war...y'all don't bust your guns

You dont have arguments so you choose to make jokes, changing the subject and act like you dont understand english anymore .

 

[blakfyahking]

for the record Snowden is not a Soldier

so wtf is @lemzola talking about

Snowden was no more military affiliated than a US postal worker when he decided to leak the NSA's activities

 

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[Dirty Sanchez]

@copper u no understand english anymore

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

for the record Snowden is not a Soldier

so wtf is @lemzola talking about

Snowden was no more military affiliated than a US postal worker when he decided to leak the NSA's activities

No longer MILITARY AFFILIATED bruh

@sanchez

Cityzen choose the gov and representants based on his programms. Its not the military problem its the citizens. They should have think twice before cosigning the Bush admnistration. Same as the gerlans with Hitler. We the military are at the end of the chain.

Its was a good discussion though

Good night and God bless you all

 

[Copper]

Traitor to the USA. Hero to USA 's enemies.

He is a soldier. Soldiers dont betray their country no matter what. Soldiers dont dive in politics. Thats why being a soldier is so special.

Snowden knows it. So he must pay to his fuckery.

A.Q.A.

( always question authority )

And never follow orders blindly...simply bc its what's expected of you

The result of his action is weakening the alredy weakened diplomatic impact of his country. He signed up for this. When you serve your flag you are not an individual anymore, you become your country.

Yeah its a hard dilemma sometimes. Some of the german generals werent agreeing with the NAZI ideology. Yet they did their job, fighting for their country i.e Jodel.

Worst fucking example ever....for more than one reason...

And lol @ at it hurting diplomatic impact

Ain't u french nigga?

Yet you didnt give one of those fucking reason.

Thats why being in the military is not for everyone. We chose to make the ultimate sacrifoce in the name of our countries. We are not cityzens, we are the STATE REASON. . You cityzens can judge, but we sodiers not.

We follow instructions. The only thing i would never do is firing at my own people.

U need a reason as to why putting men, women and kids in ovens is a horrible order that should be ignored

Bruh its another subject . No derail please. We are talking about the dilema of serving and defending your country.

And i betta not see you make some jokes on jews this year. I was the only one to got at REX for his nazi outfit thread. I didnt see yoy react there.

Have you been deployed in the battlefield?

If no so you cannot understand that dilemma notion.

Bruh u don't follow orders blindly was my point. You brought up the Nazis and made the comparison... and simply bc I font defend Jews doesn't mean I'd be OK with executing them for being Jewish...I'm not a honkie

And your french...you pussies lift your skirts for the enemy in every war...y'all don't bust your guns

You dont have arguments so you choose to make jokes, changing the subject and act like you dont understand english anymore .

U inadvertently already proved my point by calling some orders bad...so...you'd follow the anyway?

Govt is supposed to be for the people not the other way around

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

for the record Snowden is not a Soldier

so wtf is @lemzola talking about

Snowden was no more military affiliated than a US postal worker when he decided to leak the NSA's activities

No longer MILITARY AFFILIATED bruh

@sanchez

Cityzen choose the gov and representants based on his programms. Its not the military problem its the citizens. They should have think twice before cosigning the Bush admnistration. Same as the gerlans with Hitler. We the military are at the end of the chain.

Its was a good discussion though

Good night and God bless you all

right cause the government never lies.

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

Traitor to the USA. Hero to USA 's enemies.

He is a soldier. Soldiers dont betray their country no matter what. Soldiers dont dive in politics. Thats why being a soldier is so special.

Snowden knows it. So he must pay to his fuckery.

A.Q.A.

( always question authority )

And never follow orders blindly...simply bc its what's expected of you

The result of his action is weakening the alredy weakened diplomatic impact of his country. He signed up for this. When you serve your flag you are not an individual anymore, you become your country.

Yeah its a hard dilemma sometimes. Some of the german generals werent agreeing with the NAZI ideology. Yet they did their job, fighting for their country i.e Jodel.

lol @ snowden hurting america's diplomacy image and not the fact that they started a war over a lie or how they love to invade countries/start wars hurting their image, are y'all serious?

You as a canadian can criticize the US. Snowden ,by being a soldier, chose to SERVE and DIE for the US interests.

That s the main difference.

He wasn't a solider first of all, he was an intelligence contractor and even if he was a soldier, his allegiance is to the citizens and the constitution both of which are under attack, not anyone in the government or the government itself.

Second he never gave the information to American enemies, he made information available to our media. It's one thing to sell information for profit like double agent spies it's another to tell the media for no profit to yourself.

His task was to work and SHUT THE FUCK UP. Media is a weapon bruh sad you re not aware of it.

@sanchez its easy to sit at home and criticize those who die and get wounded for you to be safe. Also that children shooting argument to raise feelings has no effect on me.

As i said its a dilemma to serve in the military and secret services. Its not an easy job. However, leaking infos is a no go.

wtf u talkin bout "its easy to sit at home and criticize those who die and get wounded for you to be safe"

i dont agree with the way YOU think, not many other soldiers.. shit i mean if the government wasnt greedy for oil we wouldnt need all this "fighting for your freedom" bullshit we got going on now.

leaking info to the citizens letting them know they arent safe cause of their own government is a heroic act.

citizens >>>

The US cityzen have agreed on the PATRIOT ACT. They have reelected GEORGE BUSH and congressmen even.

it wad the people choice. As far as soldier, our main occupation is to serve the elected governement @sanchez.

If the US citizen want something else they will vote for something else. Its not the military business to make politics. Serving, dying for the country that s what we are here for.

see out here there is this thing called a "lawful order and an unlawful order."

you are told to never follow unlawful orders and to put god and country first. not your got damn government.

I agree. thats why when an unlawfull order is given to me i choose to not follow it. I dont act like snowden: execute then snitch to the public out of remorse.

God bless.

 

[a.mann]

:^o

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

for the record Snowden is not a Soldier

so wtf is @lemzola talking about

Snowden was no more military affiliated than a US postal worker when he decided to leak the NSA's activities

No longer MILITARY AFFILIATED bruh

@sanchez

Cityzen choose the gov and representants based on his programms. Its not the military problem its the citizens. They should have think twice before cosigning the Bush admnistration. Same as the gerlans with Hitler. We the military are at the end of the chain.

Its was a good discussion though

Good night and God bless you all

right cause the government never lies.

Its another subject. Thats why its important to have a good culture and knowledge so you could not be tricked easily by politicians.

Its 5 am i must sleep.

Peace

 

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[blakfyahking]

for the record Snowden is not a Soldier

so wtf is @lemzola talking about

Snowden was no more military affiliated than a US postal worker when he decided to leak the NSA's activities

No longer MILITARY AFFILIATED bruh

@sanchez

Cityzen choose the gov and representants based on his programms. Its not the military problem its the citizens. They should have think twice before cosigning the Bush admnistration. Same as the gerlans with Hitler. We the military are at the end of the chain.

Its was a good discussion though

Good night and God bless you all

that mofo didn't even pass basic training.......that doesn't make him military affiliated LOL

that's like joining the DEP program and expecting someone to treat you like a military veteran

where did he serve to be called a Soldier?

he worked for the NSA as a civilian and disclosed some shit he thought was wrong to the benefit of the public

don't try to mix military honor code into that you french pogue bastard

 

[a.mann]

so what of the other sensitive information of National Security Intelligence Snowden has possession of?

Oddly enough,

I really don't see or hear too many folks weighing in on that........

:-?

 

[Copper]

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

That's what I told your mother

 

[7figz]

Even if Snowden had really been a soldier, and he knew some fucked up shit was going on, he might legally be a traitor (by definition) if he said something but he'd be a hero for exposing it.

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

@Copper spends his nights looking for young boys who resemble Charlie Brown