Future of Presidency at Risk?

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perspective@100;31911 said:
I think its time we reflect on this. The hatred for Obama in particular. Its out of control. He has no respect in the media or in D.C. for that matter. I think people should really sit back and think about what their doing, and the domino effect it will have in the near future. The next president from the republicans wont even be able to take a piss without someone second guessing their actions. This is getting dangerous if you ask me. Yea I'm sure some of you feel like he brought this upon himself but do you think for one second once the next president is in office he/she is going to get any respect after this? Forget it, its all down hill from hear. This is going to be bad... very, very bad...

Don't worry, the anti-christ is coming to solve all the problems of the world.
 
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lol humanity is in the shitter and people are still worried about an illusive presidency.... oh lord we're in big trouble
 
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nlightndone247;32227 said:
keep it real...how many of ya'll actually thought Obama was gonna save us and execute a different agenda than bush and all those before him did??? i think it should b clear by now that the president has no real power. those behind the scenes control shit and they just gave us obama to shut us all up...

it's been the biggest uproar over a president in US history. they failed horribly if they were trying to "shut us up". people need to get off of Obama's dick and let him do his job. it took bush 8 years to fuck things up and folks expect Obama to generate a miracle in one year? then the shit he tries to do gets shitted on by folks? then they still got the nerve to ask where change is at?

the only change i've seen is in society. there are some scared, ignorant people in America and they're not afraid to show it anymore.

and i doubt the Presidency is at risk, i think it's just that nobody wants to respect Obama. the next white president will be treated completely different i predict.
 
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Yea, i wouldn't say they put Obama in place to "shut us up" b/c ppl are complaining more than ever. IMO, it was to stir up conflict. lol... Regardless to what Obama's done, whether good or bad, has stirred up trouble.
 
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kzzl;33190 said:
it's been the biggest uproar over a president in US history.
electing Lincoln essentially caused a civil war. this MIGHT qualify as a bigger uproar. but that said, this is a combination of "people haven't been civil about the office of the presidency since the 1990s" and "people automatically assume the time they live in, it being all they directly know, is the best or worst EVER."
 
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janklow;70239 said:
electing Lincoln essentially caused a civil war. this MIGHT qualify as a bigger uproar. but that said, this is a combination of "people haven't been civil about the office of the presidency since the 1990s" and "people automatically assume the time they live in, it being all they directly know, is the best or worst EVER."

I thought it was the actions he took while in office that caused the war. Similar response by the public minus the war and all, but we are more civil as a people in regards to the comparison. It was never assumed that the economy was worse than in The great Depression until it actually became that way.
 
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mephistopheles;72853 said:
Especially if someone like Palin is the opposing nominee.

yo that batman pic is hilarious lmao

i doubt palin will run but even so, theres not a single good nominee for them so far. honestly, their best chance would be john mccain running again .
 
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IMHO

I think President Obama is getting the short end of the stick.. People seem to have forgotten that it took years to get this country in this predicament so it's very unfair to expect ANY politician ,no matter how well spoken, to get us out of it in only a year or two. Especially when everything he is trying to do is being scrutinized to the umpteenth degree. Now 3 years into his term if we are still in the same boat then yes call him out, but he has barely had time to get used to being in office. I also am appalled at the things people are able to get away with regarding him, ie. the uninvited party crashers, people bringing weapons NEAR where he's giving a speech etc.. Did we ever see any spectator at a Bush speech walking around with a damn AR-15? They want him to fail and the public is becoming sheepish enough to back them up on it, if he got 20% of the public support he received while campaigning then maybe the changes wouldn't be so difficult to bring about..
 
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I never put my support behind Obama once he threw my man Rev Wright under the bus for tellin these ignit muthafuccaz what the real deal is. Only thing I see him getting accomplished is him steppin up the war. (something I am totally against)
 
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alvarez_313;88212 said:
IMHO

I think President Obama is getting the short end of the stick.. People seem to have forgotten that it took years to get this country in this predicament so it's very unfair to expect ANY politician ,no matter how well spoken, to get us out of it in only a year or two. Especially when everything he is trying to do is being scrutinized to the umpteenth degree. Now 3 years into his term if we are still in the same boat then yes call him out, but he has barely had time to get used to being in office. I also am appalled at the things people are able to get away with regarding him, ie. the uninvited party crashers, people bringing weapons NEAR where he's giving a speech etc.. Did we ever see any spectator at a Bush speech walking around with a damn AR-15? They want him to fail and the public is becoming sheepish enough to back them up on it, if he got 20% of the public support he received while campaigning then maybe the changes wouldn't be so difficult to bring about..

Exactly; anyone who expected it is extremely delusional and simply retarded.
 
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of course hes getting the short end of the stick. no one is gonna fix this country in less than 4 years if that. we would have been more fucked up with mccain who admitted he doesnt understand the economy.

but honestly, fuck bipartisanship. 1/3 of republicans dont even believe he was born in this country. might as well go full lefty and at least appease the base that will get you another term, therefore actually having the time to do something worthwhile.
 
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A strong part of White America hates Obama with a passion. That makes it easy for shows to get ratings by capitalizing off of this hatred. Its not that they(these shows) really care about you, its just business my friend. I stand back and look at politics in general and don't understand any of it. Are they grooming this Scott Brown character already? LOL
 
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It's going to get worse before it gets better. Take in consideration the Healthcare reform thing that they were making such a big deal out of and how they just lost the Senate seat in Mass. That's big!
 
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perspective@100;70513 said:
I thought it was the actions he took while in office that caused the war.
a sizable number of states (seven: AL, FL, GA, LA, MS, SC, TX) had already seceded by the time that Lincoln took office, which should pretty much indicate that any of Lincoln's actions in office didn't cause the war. the rest of the seceding states (four: AK, NC, TN, VA) seceded SLIGHTLY over a month after his inauguration, which basically says the same thing regarding them. these states took such issue with Lincoln's election that it kicked off the final stages of the drama that started the war.
 
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@Janklow

It can be argued that all those staes would have left anyway considering the Agenda of the republicans to essentially keep slavery from expanding. Whether it was Lincoln or some other Republican I dont think it really mattered in my opinion anyway. The democratic party at that time was already split between North and South so in a nut shell they were in fear of what was about to happen so they paniced and split. Either way you look at it though you can say its because of Lincoln but the fact remains that The South was scared to lose expanding slavery and they were leaving regardless of who got the office because they knew it was not going to be anyone they favored. Too much political party BS same as today... Obama not ending slavery but you got to admit this resistence to all his policies is amazing when someone like Bush can get the Patriot Act in No questions asked.
 
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perspective@100;103394 said:
It can be argued that all those staes would have left anyway considering the Agenda of the republicans to essentially keep slavery from expanding. Whether it was Lincoln or some other Republican I dont think it really mattered in my opinion anyway.
okay, this doesn't make sense, considering that a) you first argued it was based on what Lincoln DID (which isn't the case) and b) it was Lincoln, so "another Republican who would have done the same thing would have gotten the same reaction" doesn't make sense to bring up. my argument is that Lincoln's mere election caused a civil war, which caused more uproar than guys yelling about Obama. this is not countered by saying "Southerners would have freaked out about other people," as the point is what they did.

perspective@100;103394 said:
Either way you look at it though you can say its because of Lincoln but the fact remains that The South was scared to lose expanding slavery and they were leaving regardless of who got the office because they knew it was not going to be anyone they favored.
...and Lincoln, the candidate whose election they feared, got elected and caused the reaction. i do not understand what you're arguing, since again, this was about the post i quoted saying "it's been the biggest uproar over a president in US history."

perspective@100;103394 said:
Obama not ending slavery but you got to admit this resistence to all his policies is amazing when someone like Bush can get the Patriot Act in No questions asked.
no, i don't, because you're comparing Obama to something specific Bush pushed after 9/11 that had massive bipartisan support. what did Bush push through in 2008 or so?
 
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