It was this line that Made Chino XL squash the shit with Outlawz in Jersey ...Chino took that shit to heart... here the backstory to it...rapmastermind;1645058 said:
http://blog.dancharnas.com/2006/11/pac-me-and-chi.html
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http://blog.dancharnas.com/2006/11/pac-me-and-chi.html
bankrupt baller
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texasboi409;1645151 said:nigga has a point.....pac had a lot of niggas brainwashed nigga switched up his image more than the game
he didnt switch up his image.....he was mad that he got shot 5 times and sent to jail on a bullshit charge.....how would you feel?
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thesynthesis
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rapmastermind;1645146 said:Again, like I said. I do not agree with Flex about this. Pac has been dead for 14 years. Biggie's 14th anniversary is in 3 more months. The Beef is over and I'm upset that Flex would even do something like this and mess up his great legacy as one of Hip Hop Best DJ's ever. Now everyone will remember the day he dissed a great Legend like Pac. But I'd be lying if I said that Pac didn't bring some negative energy with the dissing he was doing. I don't think anyone dissed as many rappers as Tupac did. Period.
Even 50 cent got nothing on Pac as far as disses. You have to understand, at lot of people on the East was queit back then, they didn't want the beef to get out of hand. Sure Mobb and a few others commented and Lil Kim did also but "Hit Em Up" was the record that took this thing to the point of no return. Pac even admitted he wasn't happy with how the media took the record and regretted that. So even Pac himself understand he may have went to far with that record. We can all look back and laugh at the song and video but let's be real, that song was released and 9 months later they were both dead. So though it's over and done with, I think more people espeically Pac's real fans need to accept he was not an angel in the beef.
Nigga negative engery has existed before Pac and after Pac...even if Pac had not existed there wud still be negative energy, so for flex to put the blame on pacs shoulders for the current state of hip hop is lame as fuck
Funk Flex does more negative shit than anyone on radio, he has 2 million listeners, is hip hops biggest radio dj and he promotes the most negative shit. Niggas forget how he eggs on 50cent and his beefs. He was laughing his head off when 50 took those pics with Ross kids. If this nigga is so against negativity then play some Talib Kweli or Common. Every time a beef comes around this nigga gets so excited, his dick gets hard for that shit.
Pac said what he had to say on Hit'em Up, for a man who had gone through all the shit he did in 95 you can see why a nigga wud be so negative...jail time, faced death, trial by media, hommies abandoning him, robbed etc...some niggas wud have just killed themselves...at the end of it all pac said himself in 96, we are businessman, if i see biggy it's not like we gonna start fighting.
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bankrupt baller;1645181 said:he didnt switch up his image.....he was mad that he got shot 5 times and sent to jail on a bullshit charge.....how would you feel?
if i wasnt a thug screaming thug life before i got shot i wouldnt come out the hospital screaming that shit after i got out
but ehhhh from your avi i see you wont agree with me
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rapmastermind
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nujerz84;1645168 said:It was this line that Made Chino XL squash the shit with Outlawz in Jersey ...Chino took that shit to heart... here the backstory to it...
http://blog.dancharnas.com/2006/11/pac-me-and-chi.html
Exactly my point but nobody dare mentions Pac saying he will kill peoples kids on wax. That's the only double standard I'm talking about. Like I said it's obvious Pac was upset, he almost lost his life and he knew people were trying to kill him (He was right, they got him 2 years after the 1st attempt). But that emotion caused him to say some things that I feel to many people give him a pass for. It's one thing to do a diss record and make fun of your foe. It's another to threaten the life of people's childern. If it was just a "Rap" battle, Pac wouldn't of said that line in "Hit Em Up". Like Biggie said, in real beef, Kids get kidnapped, raped and murdered. So even to Pac, this wasn't no rap beef and his lines in Hit Em Up proved it.
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bankrupt baller
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texasboi409;1645228 said:if i wasnt a thug screaming thug life before i got shot i wouldnt come out the hospital screaming that shit after i got out
but ehhhh from your avi i see you wont agree with me
lol.....so he got the thug life tatoo after getting shot is what you are saying?
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bankrupt baller
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nujerz84;1645168 said:It was this line that Made Chino XL squash the shit with Outlawz in Jersey ...Chino took that shit to heart... here the backstory to it...
http://blog.dancharnas.com/2006/11/pac-me-and-chi.html
good read.......can anybody disprove this comment
"BIG -- I really liked "Ready to Die", but if he didn't have such good ghost writers (e.g. Craig Mack and Jadakiss), production from the likes of Easy Mo Bee and DJ Premier and the promotional genius of Puffy, he would have languished. *He* is the anti-Chino XL in a sense: he got hugely popular, and it wasn't on his own merits"
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thesynthesis
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texasboi409;1645228 said:if i wasnt a thug screaming thug life before i got shot i wouldnt come out the hospital screaming that shit after i got out
but ehhhh from your avi i see you wont agree with me
pac was saying thuglife before he got shot.....u gettin ur history from vh1?
thuglife was just a concept thought up between pac and his step father Mutulu Shakur, it was suppose to be like the hip hop black panthers with rules and regulations for the hood
unless u take the word thug literally like a whiteman?
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thesynthesis;1645217 said:Nigga negative engery has existed before Pac and after Pac...even if Pac had not existed there wud still be negative energy, so for flex to put the blame on pacs shoulders for the current state of hip hop is lame as fuck
Funk Flex does more negative shit than anyone on radio, he has 2 million listeners, is hip hops biggest radio dj and he promotes the most negative shit. Niggas forget how he eggs on 50cent and his beefs. He was laughing his head off when 50 took those pics with Ross kids. If this nigga is so against negativity then play some Talib Kweli or Common. Every time a beef comes around this nigga gets so excited, his dick gets hard for that shit.
Pac said what he had to say on Hit'em Up, for a man who had gone through all the shit he did in 95 you can see why a nigga wud be so negative...jail time, faced death, trial by media, hommies abandoning him, robbed etc...some niggas wud have just killed themselves...at the end of it all pac said himself in 96, we are businessman, if i see biggy it's not like we gonna start fighting.
Look, as I said, I understand Pac's anger, 94-96 was a crazy last 2 years of Pac's life. And I've said in the past, even though it was recorded before the shooting, Biggie and Puffy were wrong for releaseing "Who Shot Ya" a few months after Pac was shot. Horrible timing. But that doesn't mean Pac should of went as far as he did on "Hit Em Up". He took it to another level. As I said, people were trying to kill him so I understand his paranoia.
At the same time he did make mistakes during the whole rivialy. I actually think Pac brought more positive energy to the game than negative. But he did bring some negative energy with all the beefing ish. Flex just wants attention. He had no reason to diss Pac and big up Biggie. Just Big up Biggie and keep it moving. So again for the 1,000th time. I DO NOT AGREE WITH FLEX'S ACTIONS. I do agree that Pac was not as innocent as people try to make him out to be in the whole drama.
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nujerz84;1645168 said:It was this line that Made Chino XL squash the shit with Outlawz in Jersey ...Chino took that shit to heart... here the backstory to it...
http://blog.dancharnas.com/2006/11/pac-me-and-chi.html
damn. i didn't know chino got shot at
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flex has been riding the wave of "in the moment" east coast artists for years ... straight dickrider .
u niggas remember nas shittin on him back in 02' ... called the nigga corny and dared a nigga to snatch flex's chain .
u niggas remember nas shittin on him back in 02' ... called the nigga corny and dared a nigga to snatch flex's chain .
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thesynthesis;1645260 said:pac was saying thuglife before he got shot.....u gettin ur history from vh1?
thuglife was just a concept thought up between pac and his step father Mutulu Shakur, it was suppose to be like the hip hop black panthers with rules and regulations for the hood
unless u take the word thug literally like a whiteman?
i know my history but we all know what thug means and when kids nowadays say thug it sure doesnt mean whatever bullshit definition pac tried to come up with point blank pac didnt explain that shit right to millions of kids they took that thug image and ran with it im from texas far from the east coast and far from the west and when pac was screaming thug life bullshit he put that image and message of being a wanna be thug in niggas in my area so i know niggas in other cities followed suit stop treating this man like he was holier than thou he fucked up putting that image in kids heads without going into further explination that it stands for something good....we all know pac didnt make a song or nationally televised video explaining the true meaning
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texasboi409;1645318 said:i know my history but we all know what thug means and when kids nowadays say thug i sure doesnt mean whatever bullshit definition pac tried to come up with point blank pac didnt explain that shit right to millions of kids they took that thug image and ran with it im from texas far from the east coast and far from the west and when pac was screaming thug life bullshit he put that image and message of being a wanna be thug in niggas in my area so i know niggas in other cities followed suit stop treating this man like he was holier than thou he fucked up putting that image in kids heads without going into further explination that it stands for something good....we all know pac didnt make a song or nationally televised video explaining the true meaning
you still didnt answer my question lol
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Tommy Billfiger;1643065 said:Shouts to flex for keepin it real AGAIN.He said I dont Have to like pac unlike u faggot sheep he aint believe the hype
Pac brought negativity and disrespect and got dealt wit cuz of it
I respect flex for this
DEAD!!! No respect for this fat bitch. How are you disrespect someone thats been dead since 96 and cant defend himself? When he was calling the whole coast out I wonder how many times Fatx went over there?
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Other sites are sayin that footage is from way back..........I thought it was recent....shrugs
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bankrupt baller;1645247 said:lol.....so he got the thug life tatoo after getting shot is what you are saying?
nigga i dont care when he got the tatt im saying its the image he is carrying that society as a whole ran with
i think thats what flex was saying dude represented us as an artist for a good 4 to 5 years during that time towards the end of his career he had the game on lock and his image was not that positive
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thesynthesis
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texasboi409;1645318 said:i know my history but we all know what thug means and when kids nowadays say thug it sure doesnt mean whatever bullshit definition pac tried to come up with point blank pac didnt explain that shit right to millions of kids they took that thug image and ran with it im from texas far from the east coast and far from the west and when pac was screaming thug life bullshit he put that image and message of being a wanna be thug in niggas in my area so i know niggas in other cities followed suit stop treating this man like he was holier than thou he fucked up putting that image in kids heads without going into further explination that it stands for something good....we all know pac didnt make a song or nationally televised video explaining the true meaning
nigga u sound clueless, pac use to do shows promoting the essence of thuglife where they wud d bring crips and bloods together on some unity shit....that was the original idea.
after he got shot he denounced thug life, said yall better find someone else to rep that shit, "thuglife is dead to me" in his own words
you holding pac responsible for niggas being dumb? you gonna hold jay and big responsible for all that mafia gangsta drug dealin shit they was rappin about to the kids? niggas were promoting all that fantasy Italian shit to black youths...
pac nor any other rappers shud be held responsible to educate kids, if u a dumb nigga den thats ur fault,, i came up listening to pac, i aint no thug....i came up listening to nwa, i aint no cop killa,....
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Another thing people need to remember is how young Biggie and Pac were. They were only 24 and 25, both young kats who were still growing. So I think everyone need to take that into consideration when thinking about their lyrics and decisions at the end of their lives.
Biggie died 3 months before his 25th Birthday
Pac died 3 months after his 25th Birthday
Biggie died 3 months before his 25th Birthday
Pac died 3 months after his 25th Birthday
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thesynthesis
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DatNiggaB1;1645387 said:Other sites are sayin that footage is from way back..........I thought it was recent....shrugs
its as recent as 2010....flex did not even put a date on it lol, he knows whats up
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rapmastermind;1645267 said:Look, as I said, I understand Pac's anger, 94-96 was a crazy last 2 years of Pac's life. And I've said in the past, even though it was recorded before the shooting, Biggie and Puffy were wrong for releaseing "Who Shot Ya" a few months after Pac was shot. Horrible timing. But that doesn't mean Pac should of went as far as he did on "Hit Em Up". He took it to another level. As I said, people were trying to kill him so I understand his paranoia.
At the same time he did make mistakes during the whole rivialy. I actually think Pac brought more positive energy to the game than negative. But he did bring some negative energy with all the beefing ish. Flex just wants attention. He had no reason to diss Pac and big up Biggie. Just Big up Biggie and keep it moving. So again for the 1,000th time. I DO NOT AGREE WITH FLEX'S ACTIONS. I do agree that Pac was not as innocent as people try to make him out to be in the whole drama.
U can also add LL Cool J "I Shot Ya " remix that came out in 95 L threw shots at the west coast in his verse and the hook the title is self explanatory... Pac took it as a diss again horrible timing..
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