From cheek to cheek

[BiblicalAtheist]

I wonder how many years of practice it would take to able to be unmovable by anything.

 

[Alkindus]

I wonder how many years of practice it would take to able to be unmovable by anything.

one moment should be enough, but honestly if u realize this once per day you are on the right path. It's also heavliy society depended(it shouldn't be really but it's easier thiugh) like in Morocco I can live like that and fuck with time( 2 weeks feeling like 2 months, in a good way) here in holland I've got college offcourse and their is a more structered/cradle to grave like society(so it can be more difficult to know what is truelly important and what really is not)

Just keep in mind the differences in what you got from the heavens and what you got from man. Thats the key actually. It really can be about reminding yourself what is of value. for example you might be feeling stressfull towards a test, this test in essence is not important at all infact when you think about everything man made(from college diploma status to other things in general) hold no true value at all, so why stress.....

A lot of people also reach elightenment when confronted with their own mortality(better said the fear of death) they put things in perspective.

but really it shouldn't take years to feel the connection with your innerself/(god if you will), the holding on to that feeling/not getting caught up in everyday life/being distracted by it is what is difficult.

To me it has become somekind of mindstate(which is bad imo) because I need to get shit in order(finish my bachelor/master and make paper so that I can provide for my familia) and participate in society with it's virtuos/values....but I can go back to the enlightment state of mind by will, if I hear someone call for prayer, when I smell something, when I hear certain music etc-----all these things can remind me of my innerself and make me enlightened.

so yeah it is easliy reached but hard to maintain.

 

[Chike]

Then the universe isn't conscious either? So consciousness and awareness are unique to humans?

That's mentally not literally. If nothing else changed but your ability to say holy cow!! I got all this stuff but no 'stuff' changed that's perspective. I was meaning literally as in 'riches' starting to come your direction.

How can the universe be conscious when it requires a brain in order to consciousness to work. If it were possible to think without the need of a brain, we wouldn't have one. The universe is what it is and does what it does, and we ended up this way, in this form because of that. I wouldn't say the universe planned this out, I don't think it's capable of planning.

And yes, it IS literal, because by you changing your perspective, you're already have those riches. Who has the authority to tell you that having a ferrari or living in a mansion or having a private jet or wearing shiny rocks is the only form of riches? That's also a perspective. So if you change your perspective to see that you're already rich, but you're still expecting money to fall out the sky... then you really haven't changed anything at all.

Only mega churches try to trick people into thinking that if you believe in Jesus, money will start falling out of the sky for you. It's all bullshit. Not once in the history of mankind has money ever started raining out of the sky.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

How can the universe be conscious when it requires a brain in order to consciousness to work. If it were possible to think without the need of a brain, we wouldn't have one. The universe is what it is and does what it does, and we ended up this way, in this form because of that. I wouldn't say the universe planned this out, I don't think it's capable of planning.

And yes, it IS literal, because by you changing your perspective, you're already have those riches. Who has the authority to tell you that having a ferrari or living in a mansion or having a private jet or wearing shiny rocks is the only form of riches? That's also a perspective. So if you change your perspective to see that you're already rich, but you're still expecting money to fall out the sky... then you really haven't changed anything at all.

Only mega churches try to trick people into thinking that if you believe in Jesus, money will start falling out of the sky for you. It's all bullshit. Not once in the history of mankind has money ever started raining out of the sky.

Idk, I don't think the universe could have evolved to the point it did without consciousness or awareness of some sort, but I understand what you're saying, and in some regards have to agree.

Okay literal is not the word then. What I am trying to say is, it by changing your thoughts, does that bring physical riches to you. (like that "The Secret" type shit)

 

[Chike]

Idk, I don't think the universe could have evolved to the point it did without consciousness or awareness of some sort, but I understand what you're saying, and in some regards have to agree.

Okay literal is not the word then. What I am trying to say is, it by changing your thoughts, does that bring physical riches to you. (like that "The Secret" type shit)

Other than what I said about perspective, no. If you think crossing your fingers and praying for 5 million dollars is going to get you what you want, you're batshit crazy. lol