Friends of the woman whose 911 call triggered the events that led to the death Jon Ferrell speak out

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They need to stop diverting the attention to this woman's fears.

This is about an unarmed man getting shot 10. times by one of three officers

its unneccessary force.

2 of 3 cops pulled out teasers

They are not in trouble or question.

the problem is that one cop who pulled. a gun instead of a teaser and fired shots at an.unarmed man and killed him.
 
Yall need to cut it out. I'm from Chicago. I've pulled off on woman who was about 8 months pregnant and stranded with no gas in her car after she asked me to give her a lift to the mobile station. I ain't opening my door for NOBODY. Not grandma, not kids, not pregnant women. All them muthafuckas is tryin to rob me as far as I'm concerned. Police are at fault. Nobody else.
 
A Talented One;6307001 said:
I don't doubt that Ferrell's blackness heightened her fears, but she probably would have been scared at first even if he had been white. True, it makes no sense for a would-be robber to knock on the door, but I will excuse her for not thinking clearly because of the situation. What I am less willing to forgive is her neighbor for saying this shit.

That happens VERY often.

"Hi, my car stopped. Can I use your phone?"

"Hi, the gas company sent me to test your generator"

"Hi, I'm the auditor. I was contacted by your landlord"

Sometimes they just knock to ensure no one is home.

 
Gold_Certificate;6307070 said:
The Lonious Monk;6307058 said:
Gold_Certificate;6307045 said:
A Talented One;6307001 said:
I don't doubt that Ferrell's blackness heightened her fears, but she probably would have been scared at first even if he had been white. True, it makes no sense for a would-be robber to knock on the door, but I will excuse her for not thinking clearly because of the situation. What I am less willing to forgive is her neighbor for saying this shit.
Nah. It actually makes a lot of sense. You don't where someone is in the house when you break in blindly.

If you knock at the door and they open; you've just found their location and a way in.

Yes, and possibly a gun in your face.

No, that is not how robbers operate. Real robbers case houses to learn the activity patterns of the people inside, strike when it's at a minimum lelve, and are good enough to get in and get out without raising alarm. If you're going to make that much noise and alert the person inside, you're better off just going the home invasion route.
It happens all the time bruh. Most criminal niggas aren't intelligent enough for that movie shit.

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blackrain;6307128 said:
The Lonious Monk;6307058 said:
Gold_Certificate;6307045 said:
A Talented One;6307001 said:
I don't doubt that Ferrell's blackness heightened her fears, but she probably would have been scared at first even if he had been white. True, it makes no sense for a would-be robber to knock on the door, but I will excuse her for not thinking clearly because of the situation. What I am less willing to forgive is her neighbor for saying this shit.
Nah. It actually makes a lot of sense. You don't where someone is in the house when you break in blindly.

If you knock at the door and they open; you've just found their location and a way in.

Yes, and possibly a gun in your face.

No, that is not how robbers operate. Real robbers case houses to learn the activity patterns of the people inside, strike when it's at a minimum lelve, and are good enough to get in and get out without raising alarm. If you're going to make that much noise and alert the person inside, you're better off just going the home invasion route.

People get robbed all the time by people knocking on the door. It may seem like some tv/movie shit but people have been attacked/robbed/raped/killed by people who've knocked on their front door as the way to get in. Hell I just saw on the show Panic 911 where they show 911 calls and this dude tried to break into this woman's house while her daughter was home from school by simply knocking on the door at first and she ended up having to shoot his ass.

That shit is different. You're talking about people ringing the bell or knocking on the door normally and then robbing the unexpected answerer. Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems like from this story, dude was making a real raucous and even after she answered, he made no attempt to rob her, he just kept on yelling at her through the door. Nobody would do that shit if they were really trying to rob someone.
 
The Lonious Monk;6307058 said:
Gold_Certificate;6307045 said:
A Talented One;6307001 said:
I don't doubt that Ferrell's blackness heightened her fears, but she probably would have been scared at first even if he had been white. True, it makes no sense for a would-be robber to knock on the door, but I will excuse her for not thinking clearly because of the situation. What I am less willing to forgive is her neighbor for saying this shit.
Nah. It actually makes a lot of sense. You don't where someone is in the house when you break in blindly.

If you knock at the door and they open; you've just found their location and a way in.

Yes, and possibly a gun in your face.

No, that is not how robbers operate. Real robbers case houses to learn the activity patterns of the people inside, strike when it's at a minimum lelve, and are good enough to get in and get out without raising alarm. If you're going to make that much noise and alert the person inside, you're better off just going the home invasion route.

I personally know of countless incidents where burglars and would-be burglars knocked on the door.
 
The Lonious Monk;6307273 said:
Gold_Certificate;6307070 said:
The Lonious Monk;6307058 said:
Gold_Certificate;6307045 said:
A Talented One;6307001 said:
I don't doubt that Ferrell's blackness heightened her fears, but she probably would have been scared at first even if he had been white. True, it makes no sense for a would-be robber to knock on the door, but I will excuse her for not thinking clearly because of the situation. What I am less willing to forgive is her neighbor for saying this shit.
Nah. It actually makes a lot of sense. You don't where someone is in the house when you break in blindly.

If you knock at the door and they open; you've just found their location and a way in.

Yes, and possibly a gun in your face.

No, that is not how robbers operate. Real robbers case houses to learn the activity patterns of the people inside, strike when it's at a minimum lelve, and are good enough to get in and get out without raising alarm. If you're going to make that much noise and alert the person inside, you're better off just going the home invasion route.
It happens all the time bruh. Most criminal niggas aren't intelligent enough for that movie shit.

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blackrain;6307128 said:
The Lonious Monk;6307058 said:
Gold_Certificate;6307045 said:
A Talented One;6307001 said:
I don't doubt that Ferrell's blackness heightened her fears, but she probably would have been scared at first even if he had been white. True, it makes no sense for a would-be robber to knock on the door, but I will excuse her for not thinking clearly because of the situation. What I am less willing to forgive is her neighbor for saying this shit.
Nah. It actually makes a lot of sense. You don't where someone is in the house when you break in blindly.

If you knock at the door and they open; you've just found their location and a way in.

Yes, and possibly a gun in your face.

No, that is not how robbers operate. Real robbers case houses to learn the activity patterns of the people inside, strike when it's at a minimum lelve, and are good enough to get in and get out without raising alarm. If you're going to make that much noise and alert the person inside, you're better off just going the home invasion route.

People get robbed all the time by people knocking on the door. It may seem like some tv/movie shit but people have been attacked/robbed/raped/killed by people who've knocked on their front door as the way to get in. Hell I just saw on the show Panic 911 where they show 911 calls and this dude tried to break into this woman's house while her daughter was home from school by simply knocking on the door at first and she ended up having to shoot his ass.

That shit is different. You're talking about people ringing the bell or knocking on the door normally and then robbing the unexpected answerer. Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems like from this story, dude was making a real raucous and even after she answered, he made no attempt to rob her, he just kept on yelling at her through the door. Nobody would do that shit if they were really trying to rob someone.
I was replying to a post that said "it makes no sense for a would-be robber to knock on the door", so that's what I was referring to; robbers knocking on doors.
 
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Theodis;6307281 said:
she could have tried to listen to what the fuck the guy was saying instead of falling into a state of hysteria...
My favorite part is "Please don't let him get my baby".

Suddenly, this nigga is trying to get her baby.
 
He never said he needed help. He had the sense to tell her a couple of things, but he didn’t say he needed help.

If he never said he needed help then what was he saying????!!!!!

No lie, I would have been shook too if I was alone in my house and heard the beating on the door. I wouldn't of opened the door. I would have looked out the window to see who it was and called the police from there.
 
Who robs a house while screaming "hello" the niggah was probably delirious after the wreck and. Couldn't think straight...but I know damn well she heard him say "help" what happened was she didn't believe he needed help.
 
obnoxiouslyfresh;6307246 said:
Yall need to cut it out. I'm from Chicago. I've pulled off on woman who was about 8 months pregnant and stranded with no gas in her car after she asked me to give her a lift to the mobile station. I ain't opening my door for NOBODY. Not grandma, not kids, not pregnant women. All them muthafuckas is tryin to rob me as far as I'm concerned. Police are at fault. Nobody else.

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The Lonious Monk;6307273 said:
Gold_Certificate;6307070 said:
The Lonious Monk;6307058 said:
Gold_Certificate;6307045 said:
A Talented One;6307001 said:
I don't doubt that Ferrell's blackness heightened her fears, but she probably would have been scared at first even if he had been white. True, it makes no sense for a would-be robber to knock on the door, but I will excuse her for not thinking clearly because of the situation. What I am less willing to forgive is her neighbor for saying this shit.
Nah. It actually makes a lot of sense. You don't where someone is in the house when you break in blindly.

If you knock at the door and they open; you've just found their location and a way in.

Yes, and possibly a gun in your face.

No, that is not how robbers operate. Real robbers case houses to learn the activity patterns of the people inside, strike when it's at a minimum lelve, and are good enough to get in and get out without raising alarm. If you're going to make that much noise and alert the person inside, you're better off just going the home invasion route.
It happens all the time bruh. Most criminal niggas aren't intelligent enough for that movie shit.

TRzXLbW.png

blackrain;6307128 said:
The Lonious Monk;6307058 said:
Gold_Certificate;6307045 said:
A Talented One;6307001 said:
I don't doubt that Ferrell's blackness heightened her fears, but she probably would have been scared at first even if he had been white. True, it makes no sense for a would-be robber to knock on the door, but I will excuse her for not thinking clearly because of the situation. What I am less willing to forgive is her neighbor for saying this shit.
Nah. It actually makes a lot of sense. You don't where someone is in the house when you break in blindly.

If you knock at the door and they open; you've just found their location and a way in.

Yes, and possibly a gun in your face.

No, that is not how robbers operate. Real robbers case houses to learn the activity patterns of the people inside, strike when it's at a minimum lelve, and are good enough to get in and get out without raising alarm. If you're going to make that much noise and alert the person inside, you're better off just going the home invasion route.

People get robbed all the time by people knocking on the door. It may seem like some tv/movie shit but people have been attacked/robbed/raped/killed by people who've knocked on their front door as the way to get in. Hell I just saw on the show Panic 911 where they show 911 calls and this dude tried to break into this woman's house while her daughter was home from school by simply knocking on the door at first and she ended up having to shoot his ass.

That shit is different. You're talking about people ringing the bell or knocking on the door normally and then robbing the unexpected answerer. Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems like from this story, dude was making a real raucous and even after she answered, he made no attempt to rob her, he just kept on yelling at her through the door. Nobody would do that shit if they were really trying to rob someone.

She gotta live with the fact that she let her fright and irrational fear spark the death of an innocent man... That's all...

This is true as well because on that same episode a woman was nearly stabbed to death by her boyfriend after banging on a woman's door screaming for help and the women didn't open the door. She sent her kids upstairs, told them to lock the door and called 911 while the woman just stood outside screaming to be let in until her boyfriend came up and stabbed her. Shit is a crap shoot but I won't really fault someone for not opening their door to a stranger barring something catastrophic is happening like a hurricane, tornado or some shit like that. I will fault them if they try to come up with some bullshit reason other than "I didn't know who they were/if they really needed help" reason though
 
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Gold_Certificate;6307285 said:
The Lonious Monk;6307273 said:
Gold_Certificate;6307070 said:
The Lonious Monk;6307058 said:
Gold_Certificate;6307045 said:
A Talented One;6307001 said:
I don't doubt that Ferrell's blackness heightened her fears, but she probably would have been scared at first even if he had been white. True, it makes no sense for a would-be robber to knock on the door, but I will excuse her for not thinking clearly because of the situation. What I am less willing to forgive is her neighbor for saying this shit.
Nah. It actually makes a lot of sense. You don't where someone is in the house when you break in blindly.

If you knock at the door and they open; you've just found their location and a way in.

Yes, and possibly a gun in your face.

No, that is not how robbers operate. Real robbers case houses to learn the activity patterns of the people inside, strike when it's at a minimum lelve, and are good enough to get in and get out without raising alarm. If you're going to make that much noise and alert the person inside, you're better off just going the home invasion route.
It happens all the time bruh. Most criminal niggas aren't intelligent enough for that movie shit.

TRzXLbW.png

blackrain;6307128 said:
The Lonious Monk;6307058 said:
Gold_Certificate;6307045 said:
A Talented One;6307001 said:
I don't doubt that Ferrell's blackness heightened her fears, but she probably would have been scared at first even if he had been white. True, it makes no sense for a would-be robber to knock on the door, but I will excuse her for not thinking clearly because of the situation. What I am less willing to forgive is her neighbor for saying this shit.
Nah. It actually makes a lot of sense. You don't where someone is in the house when you break in blindly.

If you knock at the door and they open; you've just found their location and a way in.

Yes, and possibly a gun in your face.

No, that is not how robbers operate. Real robbers case houses to learn the activity patterns of the people inside, strike when it's at a minimum lelve, and are good enough to get in and get out without raising alarm. If you're going to make that much noise and alert the person inside, you're better off just going the home invasion route.

People get robbed all the time by people knocking on the door. It may seem like some tv/movie shit but people have been attacked/robbed/raped/killed by people who've knocked on their front door as the way to get in. Hell I just saw on the show Panic 911 where they show 911 calls and this dude tried to break into this woman's house while her daughter was home from school by simply knocking on the door at first and she ended up having to shoot his ass.

That shit is different. You're talking about people ringing the bell or knocking on the door normally and then robbing the unexpected answerer. Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems like from this story, dude was making a real raucous and even after she answered, he made no attempt to rob her, he just kept on yelling at her through the door. Nobody would do that shit if they were really trying to rob someone.
I was replying to a post that said "it makes no sense for a would-be robber to knock on the door", so that's what I was referring to; robbers knocking on doors.

I was really thinking of the totality of the knocking (i.e. the continual knocking even after it would have been clear that she was calling the police).
 

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