FORBES: DIDDY WORTH MORE THAN JAY Z....(10 YEARS from now we'll still be on TOP)

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white715;2204258 said:
These 5 got more than enough money to be completely independent,their own label, publishing, and distribution, man they can probably press their own cds so why haven't they made that power move yet?

Displacing risk/liabilities to others while using their money >>>>>>> using your money & holding all the risk

Niggas can talk about day about how fucked "the industry" is....but, there's a certain infrastructure already set in place. If niggas ain't cut out

Sony BMG
EMI
Virgin
Atlantic

in the 80s/90s...they damn sure aint doing it now
 
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rapmastermind;2204198 said:
Diddy > Suge

Bad Boy is still a Label making money while Suge lost his label and got stomped by some random dude. Like I said, we may have lost our KING but his Royal Court is still running the show. Meanwhile the West was in shambles worst than NY after Pac death's and Game couldn't keep it going after he revived it. So now Snoop, Cube and Dre have to pick up the pieces all these years later. Midwest rose in the 2000's with Eminem, Nelly and KanYe but they've never really owned an era all out. The South had a nice run but it's clearly coming to an end as people have grown tired of all the 1-hit wonders and average material. I'm not saying NY is doing that great Hip Hop wise. We did fall off slightly but NY will always have Big artist no matter what era and this has been proven. Also Even after Big's death we still had Jay, NaS, DMX, Diddy and then 50 as well as Ja Rule. NY always has a presence in the game no matter what. That's what happens when you are the Mecca of Hip Hop. The fact Diddy and Jay are running Hip Hop business wise and yes as well as 50 also shows you NYC is on some other ish. We need more OWNERS than ARTIST in this game.

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"Don't Hate, Congratulate"

they arent owners. what the fuck are u talking about. WMG owns 50% of bad boy. and how is bad boy poppin. who on bad boy? last train to gayness flopped. not to mentioned it was nothing but european themed faggoty techno music that NY prides it self on making. and instead of looking for that next big artist you claim yall niggas have puff got his gay ass down in miami riding rick ross junk i guess trying to rehash some old gay fantasies he had with biggie. and you got that 47 year old nigga talking about he going ham. thats our slang. NY been dead for 14 years. we set the trends and you niggas follow. this aint 1995. nas is washed up. biggie is dead and jay z dont give a fuck about yall anymore. NY are so delusional with that elitist bullshit. quit talking about them old ass rappers who the fuck new on deck for yall? thats right. puffy and jay z too busy scoutin for talent down south to worried about NY hip hop. nigga the south aint never gonna die. tell them weak ass niggas get off them south records and go look around in that wack ass city for some so called talent.

and once again. SUGE KNIGHT AND HIS SHOOTERS ARE STILL ALIVE AND BREATHING. HE HAD YALL KING KILLED AND THESE SO CALLED BOSSES WITH ALL THIS WEALTH CANNOT BRING HIS MURDERER TO JUSTICE. NEW YORK IS SO FUCKING SOFT. YALL NIGGAS ARE STRAIGHT PUSSY. BIGGIE IS THE GOAT BUT HIS KILLERS ARE STILL WALKING AROUND ALIVE. NY PUMP KOOL AID BLOOD IN EVERY RESIDENTS VEINS. FUCK NEW YORK
 
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Dakari;2204299 said:
Suge shouldn't be a part of this convo

yeah he should. lets stop playing dumb. he set biggie up for the kill. what you pussy ass ny niggas gonna do about it? NOTHING
 
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tompetrez3;2204291 said:
they arent owners. what the fuck are u talking about. WMG owns 50% of bad boy. and how is bad boy poppin. who on bad boy? last train to gayness flopped. not to mentioned it was nothing but european themed faggoty techno music that NY prides it self on making. and instead of looking for that next big artist you claim yall niggas have puff got his gay ass down in miami riding rick ross junk i guess trying to rehash some old gay fantasies he had with biggie. and you got that 47 year old nigga talking about he going ham. thats our slang. NY been dead for 14 years. we set the trends and you niggas follow. this aint 1995. nas is washed up. biggie is dead and jay z dont give a fuck about yall anymore. NY are so delusional with that elitist bullshit. quit talking about them old ass rappers who the fuck new on deck for yall? thats right. puffy and jay z too busy scoutin for talent down south to worried about NY hip hop. nigga the south aint never gonna die. tell them weak ass niggas get off them south records and go look around in that wack ass city for some so called talent.

and once again. SUGE KNIGHT AND HIS SHOOTERS ARE STILL ALIVE AND BREATHING. HE HAD YALL KING KILLED AND THESE SO CALLED BOSSES WITH ALL THIS WEALTH CANNOT BRING HIS MURDERER TO JUSTICE. NEW YORK IS SO FUCKING SOFT. YALL NIGGAS ARE STRAIGHT PUSSY. BIGGIE IS THE GOAT BUT HIS KILLERS ARE STILL WALKING AROUND ALIVE. NY PUMP KOOL AID BLOOD IN EVERY RESIDENTS VEINS. FUCK NEW YORK

All this shit u typed has nothin to do with making money...absolutely nothing
 
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Maalik;2204319 said:
All this shit u typed has nothin to do with making money...absolutely nothing

fuck money. these niggas act like they bosses and american gangsters. whatever fantasy power shit they think they got going for them. i see 2 sucker niggas. jay z act like this super drug lord and rapping about "he is a man with principles". if he got principles what the fuck are the shooters still doing alive?
 
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tompetrez3;2204291 said:
they arent owners. what the fuck are u talking about. WMG owns 50% of bad boy. and how is bad boy poppin. who on bad boy? last train to gayness flopped. not to mentioned it was nothing but european themed faggoty techno music that NY prides it self on making. and instead of looking for that next big artist you claim yall niggas have puff got his gay ass down in miami riding rick ross junk i guess trying to rehash some old gay fantasies he had with biggie. and you got that 47 year old nigga talking about he going ham. thats our slang. NY been dead for 14 years. we set the trends and you niggas follow. this aint 1995. nas is washed up. biggie is dead and jay z dont give a fuck about yall anymore. NY are so delusional with that elitist bullshit. quit talking about them old ass rappers who the fuck new on deck for yall? thats right. puffy and jay z too busy scoutin for talent down south to worried about NY hip hop. nigga the south aint never gonna die. tell them weak ass niggas get off them south records and go look around in that wack ass city for some so called talent.

and once again. SUGE KNIGHT AND HIS SHOOTERS ARE STILL ALIVE AND BREATHING. HE HAD YALL KING KILLED AND THESE SO CALLED BOSSES WITH ALL THIS WEALTH CANNOT BRING HIS MURDERER TO JUSTICE. NEW YORK IS SO FUCKING SOFT. YALL NIGGAS ARE STRAIGHT PUSSY. BIGGIE IS THE GOAT BUT HIS KILLERS ARE STILL WALKING AROUND ALIVE. NY PUMP KOOL AID BLOOD IN EVERY RESIDENTS VEINS. FUCK NEW YORK

Much success to Diddy and Jay, but the bolded in Tomp's post is the reason why I think they won't break that billionaire mark. They're not OWNERS. And as far as Bob Johnson, he was in the billionaire mark but that divorce took down his worth, but Oprah, being the only Black female billionaire is the Jewish's cash cow and playing her role like she's suppose to.
 
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Disciplined InSight;2204345 said:
Much success to Diddy and Jay, but the bolded in Tomp's post is the reason why I think they won't break that billionaire mark. They're not OWNERS. And as far as Bob Johnson, he was in the billionaire mark but that divorce took down his worth, but Oprah, being the only Black female billionaire is the Jewish's cash cow and playing her role like she's suppose to.

yep. just look at her audience.
 
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Tromp why do you always go to extremes. LOL @ They aren't owners. Diddy owns his own clothing as well as other ventures. Jay owns his own business too. The fact they got to Half a Billion this way is just one aspect of being an Owner. Of course they don't own the Labels out right. Everyone knows Whites and Jews own the music and movie business, that's established. It's about setting up partnerships and deals and Diddy and Jay have done a great job that. As well as Russell. I agree with whoever posted that the Top 5 Forbes guys should come together and do a distribution deal but we all know Egos are too big. I remember watching this "ILLuminait" video that said Suge, Irv and some other CEO were coming together to from the 1st Black Owned distribution music company and then that's when all the Legal drama happen with them.

So even if the 5 came together, something would happen to stop it. People don't understand this game is bigger than Hip Hop. This is a huge business and it's one thing to own a side label like Jay, Puff or Baby does. It's another to be the owner of Sony or the other Big time Labels. We are talking OLD money. Again I think Diddy and Jay are already close to a Billi, they have "off the books" money people don't know about. As far as Biggie's murder getting away, Biggie case is way closer to being solved than Pac's case. But it's hard, the LAPD is involved and you know the police force is an extension of the government. They cannot have the police force of a major city like LA being found guilty in the murder of someone like Biggie. So they are doing everything and anything to suppress the evidence. I'm not even going to talk about your "NY is Pussy" talk, cause you just getting your shock posting on. At the end of the day. NY is running Forbes, Not the South, Not the Midwest and not the West. I know it burns you up but facts are facts.

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rapmastermind;2204541 said:
Tromp why do you always go to extremes. LOL @ They aren't owners. Diddy owns his own clothing as well as other ventures. Jay owns his own business too. The fact they got to Half a Billion this way is just one aspect of being an Owner. Of course they don't own the Labels out right. Everyone knows Whites and Jews own the music and movie business, that's established. It's about setting up partnerships and deals and Diddy and Jay have done a great job that. As well as Russell. I agree with whoever posted that the Top 5 Forbes guys should come together and do a distribution deal but we all know Egos are too big. I remember watching this "ILLuminait" video that said Suge, Irv and some other CEO were coming together to from the 1st Black Owned distribution music company and then that's when all the Legal drama happen with them.

So even if the 5 came together, something would happen to stop it. People don't understand this game is bigger than Hip Hop. This is a huge business and it's one thing to own a side label like Jay, Puff or Baby does. It's another to be the owner of Sony or the other Big time Labels. We are talking OLD money. Again I think Diddy and Jay are already close to a Billi, they have "off the books" money people don't know about. As far as Biggie's murder getting away, Biggie case is way closer to being solved than Pac's case. But it's hard, the LAPD is involved and you know the police force is an extension of the government. They cannot have the police force of a major city like LA being found guilty in the murder of someone like Biggie. So they are doing everything and anything to suppress the evidence. I'm not even going to talk about your "NY is Pussy" talk, cause you just getting your shock posting on. At the end of the day. NY is running Forbes, Not the South, Not the Midwest and not the West. I know it burns you up but facts are facts.

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yep. thats illuminati
 
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I love how dudes at the top of hip hop think they real G's and bosses. Even as a fan of jay z and a fan of diddy's older bad boy movement (despite the fact his new music sucks and he done cheated niggas out of cash like a sharecropper) both theese dudes talking mad L's in the past 12 months

Jay-Z as "G" as he is couldn't get his "boy" bron bron or melo to come play for the nets and even with deron that teams going to be in the shitter for a few years minimum.

Likewise dude tried to get Drake on his label and Drizzy turned down 20 mil to stay with young money

Also as much as he wants kids beyonce got him on a whip and not letting him have his wish and she worth around 500 milli right now

Diddy music wise done fell off the face of the earth. Last train to flop...flopped sales wise despite being marketed toward the club and having mad features. At least when jay tour he can sell out arenas still Diddy doing tours in 2,000 seat ball rooms for dirty money this spring and who knows if that will sell out. And besides janelle monae bad boy music is wack. Also dude lost cassie too.

What both these dudes learned is money cant buy success or happiness.
 
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rapmastermind;2204541 said:
Tromp why do you always go to extremes. LOL @ They aren't owners. Diddy owns his own clothing as well as other ventures. Jay owns his own business too. The fact they got to Half a Billion this way is just one aspect of being an Owner. Of course they don't own the Labels out right. Everyone knows Whites and Jews own the music and movie business, that's established. It's about setting up partnerships and deals and Diddy and Jay have done a great job that. As well as Russell. I agree with whoever posted that the Top 5 Forbes guys should come together and do a distribution deal but we all know Egos are too big. I remember watching this "ILLuminait" video that said Suge, Irv and some other CEO were coming together to from the 1st Black Owned distribution music company and then that's when all the Legal drama happen with them.

So even if the 5 came together, something would happen to stop it. People don't understand this game is bigger than Hip Hop. This is a huge business and it's one thing to own a side label like Jay, Puff or Baby does. It's another to be the owner of Sony or the other Big time Labels. We are talking OLD money. Again I think Diddy and Jay are already close to a Billi, they have "off the books" money people don't know about. As far as Biggie's murder getting away, Biggie case is way closer to being solved than Pac's case. But it's hard, the LAPD is involved and you know the police force is an extension of the government. They cannot have the police force of a major city like LA being found guilty in the murder of someone like Biggie. So they are doing everything and anything to suppress the evidence. I'm not even going to talk about your "NY is Pussy" talk, cause you just getting your shock posting on. At the end of the day. NY is running Forbes, Not the South, Not the Midwest and not the West. I know it burns you up but facts are facts.

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that guy is a complete fag. Dont waste key strokes on fags.
 
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runningwolf1980;2205147 said:
if it was that easy everybody would just file for bankruptcy use your brain breh.....

Umm, alot of people have, which is why chapter 7 laws were changed a few years ago because people used it to get away from paying what they owe...do you know what you speak of?
 
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runningwolf1980;2205147 said:
if it was that easy everybody would just file for bankruptcy use your brain breh.....

Here you go, I used my brain

Note: The following article is an excerpt from the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee Report 109-031. See the Full Text of House Report 109-031, with footnotes, from the U.S. Congress)

The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 represents the most comprehensive set of bankruptcy reforms in more than 25 years. The new consumer bankruptcy provisions in the Act came as a response to several factors.

1. Increase in Bankruptcy Filings

The recent escalation of consumer bankruptcy filings does not appear to be just a temporary event, but part of a generally consistent upward trend. In 1998, for example, bankruptcy filings exceeded one million for the first time in our nation's history. Over the past decade, the number of bankruptcy filings has nearly doubled to more than 1.6 million cases filed in fiscal year 2004.

As a result of this trend showing increased bankruptcy filings, there is a growing perception that bankruptcy relief may be too readily available and is sometimes used as a first resort, rather than a last resort. Despite the view of opponents of bankruptcy reform that abuse in the system is not widespread and that most bankruptcy filings result from causes beyond debtors' control (such as family illness, job loss or disruption, or divorce) the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee concluded that reforms were nevertheless necessary.

2. Losses Associated with Bankruptcy Filings

There are significant losses asserted to be associated with bankruptcy filings. As one witness explained during the Senate Judiciary Committee's hearing on the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 earlier this year:

Like all other business expenses, when creditors are unable to collect debts because of bankruptcy, some of those losses are inevitably passed on to responsible Americans who live up to their financial obligations. Every phone bill, electric bill, mortgage, furniture purchase, medical bill, and car loan contains an implicit bankruptcy 'tax' that the rest of us pay to subsidize those who do not pay their bills. Exactly how much of these bankruptcy losses is passed on from lenders to consumer borrowers is unclear, but economics tells us that at least some of it is. We all pay for bankruptcy abuse in higher down payments, higher interest rates, and higher costs for goods and services.

According to some analyses, the increase in consumer bankruptcy filings has adverse financial consequences for our nation's economy. For instance, it was estimated that in 1997 alone more than $44 billion of debt was discharged by debtors who filed for bankruptcy relief, a figure when amortized on a yearly basis amounts to a loss of at least $110 million every day. These losses, according to one estimate, translate into a $400 annual 'tax' on every household in our nation. In 2003, the Nilson Report (a credit industry newsletter) announced that issuers of proprietary and general purpose credit cards 'lost $18.9 billion in 2002 from consumer bankruptcy filings,' an increase of 15.1 percent over the prior year. The Credit Union National Association (CUNA) reported that credit unions, as of 2002, lost 'nearly $3 billion from bankruptcies' since Congress began its consideration of bankruptcy reform legislation in 1998.

3. Potential Bankruptcy Abuse

A third factor motivating comprehensive reform is that the present bankruptcy system has loopholes and incentives that allow and -- sometimes even encourage -- opportunistic personal filings and abuse. A civil enforcement initiative undertaken in 2002 by the United States Trustee Program (a component of the Justice Department charged with administrative oversight of bankruptcy cases) has consistently identified such problems as debtor misconduct and abuse, misconduct by attorneys and other professionals, problems associated with bankruptcy petition preparers, and instances where a debtor's discharge should be challenged.

4. Debtors' Ability to Repay Debt

A fourth factor relates to the fact that some bankruptcy debtors are able to repay a significant portion of their debts, according to several studies. Current law, however, has no clear mandate requiring these debtors to repay their debts. According to the National Association of Bankruptcy Trustees, '[w]hile there is a universal agreement among the courts that an individual debtor's ability to repay his or her debts from future earnings is, at the very least, a factor in determining whether substantial abuse would occur in a chapter 7 case, there are differences among the courts as to the extent to which they rely on a debtor's ability to repay.'

Source: U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee

Now, stfu
 
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Johnny Green VI;2205285 said:
It means you can't with the company's assets but as you know a corporation is a seperate legal entity from the owners/officers of the corporation. P wouldn't have to use his personal assets to pay off company debt. Just like Trump has had companies/casinos go bankrupt a few times, he was never personally bankrupt, just his companies.

I tried to spell out for the idiots that swear they know what they talking about.....
 
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fortyacres&amule;2202869 said:
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take that take that.....

seriously...if my name was anywhere on the top 5 of this list I'd walk into the bank doing that dance at least once a week
 
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rapmastermind;2204541 said:
Tromp why do you always go to extremes. LOL @ They aren't owners. Diddy owns his own clothing as well as other ventures. Jay owns his own business too. The fact they got to Half a Billion this way is just one aspect of being an Owner. Of course they don't own the Labels out right. Everyone knows Whites and Jews own the music and movie business, that's established. It's about setting up partnerships and deals and Diddy and Jay have done a great job that. As well as Russell. I agree with whoever posted that the Top 5 Forbes guys should come together and do a distribution deal but we all know Egos are too big. I remember watching this "ILLuminait" video that said Suge, Irv and some other CEO were coming together to from the 1st Black Owned distribution music company and then that's when all the Legal drama happen with them.

So even if the 5 came together, something would happen to stop it. People don't understand this game is bigger than Hip Hop. This is a huge business and it's one thing to own a side label like Jay, Puff or Baby does. It's another to be the owner of Sony or the other Big time Labels. We are talking OLD money. Again I think Diddy and Jay are already close to a Billi, they have "off the books" money people don't know about. As far as Biggie's murder getting away, Biggie case is way closer to being solved than Pac's case. But it's hard, the LAPD is involved and you know the police force is an extension of the government. They cannot have the police force of a major city like LA being found guilty in the murder of someone like Biggie. So they are doing everything and anything to suppress the evidence. I'm not even going to talk about your "NY is Pussy" talk, cause you just getting your shock posting on. At the end of the day. NY is running Forbes, Not the South, Not the Midwest and not the West. I know it burns you up but facts are facts.

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Suge Knight, Irv gotti, and J Prince talked about doing that back in like 2002-2003 but J Prince and Irv Gotti both got caught up in legal drama...some their own fault some bullsiht, that threw that plan out of wack
 
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