Florida Man Videotapes Baby Mama Refusing Visitation Rights

[mryounggun]

so in theory, every divorce and child custody case and case of domestic abuse came from not knowing the person?

ok...nice to know

Fuck it.

Nobody is saying that, fam. Let me not speak for anybody else, here's how I look at it:

If you actually take the time to get to know a woman and actually evaluate what type of person she is, you can GREATLY REDUCE your chances of ending up in this situation. There is no sure thing. But I can say without hyperbole, that I think that 85%-90% of situations like this could have been prevented by doing your due diligence. There will ALWAYS be that 10%-15% where the person just flips the script, even after you actually did your due diligence. But usually, that isn't the case.

And when I say 'due diligence', I mean it. I know a nigga in a similar situation and he used to talk to me all the time when him and his girl was together before they had a kid about how petty and immature she is. Shit was funny to him because she was only that way with other people. But common sense should tell you that she isn't petty and immature to you ONLY because - in her mind - she doesn't have a reason to be. Now that they have a kid and are broken up...she's being petty and immature and not letting him see his kid as much as he'd like.

BIG SHOCKER!

You really gotta evaluate a person's actions to determine if they are worth having a child with. And you ALWAYS have to take into consideration 'If this shit goes left, is this person gonna be an adult about it try to make my life hell just on GP?'.

Most niggas don't do that.

Agree or disagree?

nah I agree...

at least you took a side on this one nigga

You're better than this.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Men are too afraid of the STATE to even see their own damn kids. That needs to change.

chicks use that to their advantage.

but us it that's states fault for using scare and bully tactics, the dad's fault or the chicks fault for using bully and scare tactics?

 

[2stepz_ahead]

so in theory, every divorce and child custody case and case of domestic abuse came from not knowing the person?

ok...nice to know

Fuck it.

Nobody is saying that, fam. Let me not speak for anybody else, here's how I look at it:

If you actually take the time to get to know a woman and actually evaluate what type of person she is, you can GREATLY REDUCE your chances of ending up in this situation. There is no sure thing. But I can say without hyperbole, that I think that 85%-90% of situations like this could have been prevented by doing your due diligence. There will ALWAYS be that 10%-15% where the person just flips the script, even after you actually did your due diligence. But usually, that isn't the case.

And when I say 'due diligence', I mean it. I know a nigga in a similar situation and he used to talk to me all the time when him and his girl was together before they had a kid about how petty and immature she is. Shit was funny to him because she was only that way with other people. But common sense should tell you that she isn't petty and immature to you ONLY because - in her mind - she doesn't have a reason to be. Now that they have a kid and are broken up...she's being petty and immature and not letting him see his kid as much as he'd like.

BIG SHOCKER!

You really gotta evaluate a person's actions to determine if they are worth having a child with. And you ALWAYS have to take into consideration 'If this shit goes left, is this person gonna be an adult about it try to make my life hell just on GP?'.

Most niggas don't do that.

Agree or disagree?

nah I agree...

at least you took a side on this one nigga

You're better than this.

can't agree with you without taking a cheap shot.

it's what I do....

for balance

 

[gns]

I never said the man should make that woman happy. I said you can tell what type of mother she is by her surroundings. Look at that place. What would make men get her pregnant and think she would be a good mother?

While I agree with your point, this is very flawed reasoning

this is what black men have to deal with

Yeah....black women are the only ones who do fuck shit. Stfu.

You are not staying within the context of the discussion.

Which will lead to what you always go thru on here.

Stay focuse stay on message.

Before you accidentally side with women that do harm to your movement.

I have fun in everything I do even if y'all don't like it. So even if this topic gets derailed I'll be straight. That being said, I don't have a movement at all. I am not a feminist.

You may not call yourself that IRL but based on your actions here on the forum....

What actions? You mean my comments? I don't like ignorance.. I don't like misogyny. I say what the fuck I think. And I don't know why I'm the one you come to attempt to check, when I wasn't even the one who started this feminism conversation. Yall always mad at me I didn't start the bullshit.

Ugh i have no patience for the display of feelings that are tied to the use of definitives that are using in the above post.

Yall

Always

Are you fucking serious right now?

As many gotdamn times as i have stood on the same side of an argument as you and even backed you. You still turn around and speak like a little girl when encountering logic from a ideological ally.

Women going full on ratchet and disregarding logic and fact is why this fucking thread even exists.

Alright you know what, you are one of the few men here I do not completely hate so Ill say you're right, I am not specifically talking about you. My wording choice was incorrect. Apologies.

But I'm not a little girl and no where in my feelings. JS

You hate most of the posters here? Why?

I was kidding. I dont hate anyone. Strongly dislike a few, but i dont know anybody to actually hate them.

I knew u didnt mean it

 

[xxCivicxx]

A chick can be a good chick then become bitter vindictive bitches after a break up . Esp if the guy moves on and is happy. All this he shouldn't have fucked or he should known is null and void. She is responsible for her foolishness. Shit is trifling

This is what females don't wanna admit in here

Most of the females that pull this fuck shit are most likely mad/hurt that the baby daddy wants the baby but not the baby mom

 

[blakfyahking]

so in theory, every divorce and child custody case and case of domestic abuse came from not knowing the person?

ok...nice to know

Fuck it.

Nobody is saying that, fam. Let me not speak for anybody else, here's how I look at it:

If you actually take the time to get to know a woman and actually evaluate what type of person she is, you can GREATLY REDUCE your chances of ending up in this situation. There is no sure thing. But I can say without hyperbole, that I think that 85%-90% of situations like this could have been prevented by doing your due diligence. There will ALWAYS be that 10%-15% where the person just flips the script, even after you actually did your due diligence. But usually, that isn't the case.

And when I say 'due diligence', I mean it. I know a nigga in a similar situation and he used to talk to me all the time when him and his girl was together before they had a kid about how petty and immature she is. Shit was funny to him because she was only that way with other people. But common sense should tell you that she isn't petty and immature to you ONLY because - in her mind - she doesn't have a reason to be. Now that they have a kid and are broken up...she's being petty and immature and not letting him see his kid as much as he'd like.

BIG SHOCKER!

You really gotta evaluate a person's actions to determine if they are worth having a child with. And you ALWAYS have to take into consideration 'If this shit goes left, is this person gonna be an adult about it try to make my life hell just on GP?'.

Most niggas don't do that.

Agree or disagree?

I disagree unless u saying every woman u had sex with

u were in a serious relationship and took a decent amount of time to get to know her 1st.........and I don't mean just a few weeks/months

my beef is mofos love to simplify these issues cuz deep down inside they don't want to admit that the same situation could happen to them

it's plenty of mofos in relationships and marriages who have a false sense of superiority by thinking bad shit only happens to OTHER people who aren't as logical/ethical/intuitive as they believe themselves to be.......it's like mofos love to think their relationship is so much better......meanwhile everybody has their own problems/issues to work thru

every single parent and every divorced person never imagined it could happen to them either......cats tend to disregard how romantic emotions affect real life situations SMH

 

[mryounggun]

What specifically in my post did you disagree with, @blakfyahking. Serious question. You didn't really specify.

And from where I'm sitting, what you said doesn't disputed or negate anything I said and my comment doesn't dispute or negate yours.

I'm not one of those niggas you're speaking of who feel superior or whatever. I know it can happen to anyone. But again, there are things you can do to make it far less likely.

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

Why are the women y'all deal with so angry?

Because you left?

Because you cheated?

Because you were abusive?

Not everyone that breaks up with the mother of their child deals with this type of behavior.

A lot of women were raised like that. There mothers were assholes to their fathers and they grew up thinking that is the way to be. That is the hardest situation to deal with. If youre dating a woman and her mother aint shit.....then most likely she aint shit....and theres nothing like a baby and some hard times to bring it right out of her. Gotta be more selective.

That doesn't explain why she is mad. This explains her reaction.

In your situation, why was she mad?

My baby mom's wasn't mad.....I was. She did whatever the fuck she wanted to do no matter who it affected and she felt she had the right to because she gave birth. That is not how it works, and I'm sure she got that mentality from her moms. In her mind I am fucked up, in the courts eyes she was fucked up, and so I won. Don't matter why she is the way she is, she is that way, what matters is what is to be done about it.

 

[jono]

People change, thats a fact and some people alter their behavior in response to perceived slights, thats also a fact.

There's as many chicks who get bitter and run to the courts as there are dudes who get bitter and abandon their kids. There's no excuse for either one.

Shit happens, there are no silver bullets to cure this shit and no foolproof way to prevent it either. Shit...just...happens.

 

[Westie]

A chick can be a good chick then become bitter vindictive bitches after a break up . Esp if the guy moves on and is happy. All this he shouldn't have fucked or he should known is null and void. She is responsible for her foolishness. Shit is trifling

This is true. Parents really need to put their kids first, way too many people let their personal feelings about their exes dictate how they parent. Its fucked up.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Why are the women y'all deal with so angry?

Because you left?

Because you cheated?

Because you were abusive?

Not everyone that breaks up with the mother of their child deals with this type of behavior.

A lot of women were raised like that. There mothers were assholes to their fathers and they grew up thinking that is the way to be. That is the hardest situation to deal with. If youre dating a woman and her mother aint shit.....then most likely she aint shit....and theres nothing like a baby and some hard times to bring it right out of her. Gotta be more selective.

That doesn't explain why she is mad. This explains her reaction.

In your situation, why was she mad?

My baby mom's wasn't mad.....I was. She did whatever the fuck she wanted to do no matter who it affected and she felt she had the right to because she gave birth. That is not how it works, and I'm sure she got that mentality from her moms. In her mind I am fucked up, in the courts eyes she was fucked up, and so I won. Don't matter why she is the way she is, she is that way, what matters is what is to be done about it.

this is underrated.

niggas skip over this part an point fingers while letting the situation get out if control.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

A chick can be a good chick then become bitter vindictive bitches after a break up . Esp if the guy moves on and is happy. All this he shouldn't have fucked or he should known is null and void. She is responsible for her foolishness. Shit is trifling

This is true. Parents really need to put their kids first, way too many people let their personal feelings about their exes dictate how they parent. Its fucked up.

ohhhhhh.

I just calmed down but this shit is Goat.

some people think their way is right no matter how wrong it is.

some people even convince themselves both parents aren't needed...so just use more energy chasing him away.

man I can go in here

 

[not_osirus_jenkins]

I wonder what the legality of him just saying 'Son, get ya shoes. We're leaving.' and just exercising his visitation rights anyway would be. Prolly land him in jail but if I were him I would have gone home and researched that ASAP.

And fuck this broad. I mean that whole-heartedly. Women like this really need to be imprisoned. I'm glad I ain't gotta go through this fuck shit.

Also, why in the FUCK is this on Facebook. Dude is a clown for that.

vindication maybe....can't fault him if you ain't been in his shoes. go thru it long enough an you may feel the same way.

but sometimes just taking the child can lead to bigger problems. police called,gotta have paperwork in order, traumatizing the child in more ways you could imagine.

having had to deal with this shit in levels where guns was involved... I think he took the easiest route and just fell back.

shit can escalate very fast

Naw B. We all got certain principles that are non-negotiable. Airing out family business on social media and other public places is on my list. Why it comes to those principles, nothing can make me act out of character.

And the truth doesn't cease being the truth just because you don't believe it. If I know I love my kid and do my best to spend time with him, what other people on FB think is irrelevant. Vindication is overrated.

Social media has been proven to sway opinion in the court of law.

Would you want to be the judge that ruled in favor of this woman?

Would you want to be the employee that sat on his paperwork?

Would you even want to be the Attorney General having to explain whats on this video?

Change has to start some how, keeping family secrets only works in favor of one person and that is usually the one fearful of embarrassment.

If you need help, you need help.

Plain and simple.

It is common knowledge that the vast majority of noncustodial fathers are unaware of their rights by design. , that is a monster you cannot defeat solo.

Besides. The baby father baby mama dynamic is one of business not family.

That bitch aint family.

This is a lil off topic, but having this mentality is a large part of the reason that legit co-parenting doesn't work in a lot of situations.



When you have a child with a person, you, that person and that child are family forever. Maybe a broken family. But still a family.

Now if the other person doesn't feel the same, then having and keeping that mentally is very difficult and frustrating. But for the sake of all involved, it's still best. This situation is a good example. I can't do fuck nigga shit like airing out family business on social media just because SHE decides to do fuck nigga shit.

no you are not. Look up family in the dictionary.

Sure thing.

'A basic social unit consisting of parents and their children, considered as a group, whether dwelling together or not'.

We good here or you got anything else?

In the context of human society, a family(from Latin: familia) is a group of people affiliated by consanguinity (by recognized birth), affinity (by marriage), or co-residence (as implied by the etymology of the English word "family"[1]) and/or shared consumption (see nurture kinship).

Family and family member sound close but they aren't the same.

 

[blakfyahking]

What specifically in my post did you disagree with, @blakfyahking. Serious question. You didn't really specify.

And from where I'm sitting, what you said doesn't disputed or negate anything I said and my comment doesn't dispute or negate yours.

I'm not one of those niggas you're speaking of who feel superior or whatever. I know it can happen to anyone. But again, there are things you can do to make it far less likely.

I disagree with your percentages and the idea that u can "greatly" reduce ur chances of getting screwed

10 -15% is more like 30-40%........and I specifically state closer to 50% because u can do due diligence but circumstances in life will change and in many ways it will change where u have no control whatsoever

especially if u young in a relationship.....u can't expect a 20-25 yr old to still think and feel the same way at 30-35 yrs old........people experience many changes in that period whether for better or worse

all u can do is keep it 100 with urself and know what ur are willing and not willing to accept.......the rest of the shit in life is pure speculation because u can't successfully eliminate risk when emotions are involved

 

[2stepz_ahead]

I have seen dudes put more effort into getting noodz and chasing chicks than I see putting in work to get their kids.

visitation rights....yes

custody...no

 

[HarlemThumzUp]

i turned it off soon as I seen the front door smh triflin bitch imagine how her crib smell

 

[2stepz_ahead]

so we all got clean front doors and nice smelling houses now huh?

 

[HarlemThumzUp]

so we all got clean front doors and nice smelling houses now huh?

[/quote

yes nigga I do. My mother does. and so does my sister.

 

[blackrain]

again....y'all niggas fail to realize.....sometimes shit happens.

all these fail safes you think you have don't mean shit

Yes sometimes shit does happen, but plenty of ya'll have admitted to dealing with women you know you shouldn't have because they got a nice ass and some good pussy...and that's all you knew about her. You stay talking about holding other dudes accountable for their actions...how about starting with being more careful about who you stick your dick in, especially raw, so you can minimize the chances of that findnig out down the line this chick you been fucking is batshit crazy? As much as you talk about a lack of father figures guiding young women, clearly some of ya'll niggas lacked a father figure to tell you what women to try to avoid.

 

[blackrain]

so in theory, every divorce and child custody case and case of domestic abuse came from not knowing the person?

ok...nice to know

Fuck it.

Nobody is saying that, fam. Let me not speak for anybody else, here's how I look at it:

If you actually take the time to get to know a woman and actually evaluate what type of person she is, you can GREATLY REDUCE your chances of ending up in this situation. There is no sure thing. But I can say without hyperbole, that I think that 85%-90% of situations like this could have been prevented by doing your due diligence. There will ALWAYS be that 10%-15% where the person just flips the script, even after you actually did your due diligence. But usually, that isn't the case.

And when I say 'due diligence', I mean it. I know a nigga in a similar situation and he used to talk to me all the time when him and his girl was together before they had a kid about how petty and immature she is. Shit was funny to him because she was only that way with other people. But common sense should tell you that she isn't petty and immature to you ONLY because - in her mind - she doesn't have a reason to be. Now that they have a kid and are broken up...she's being petty and immature and not letting him see his kid as much as he'd like.

BIG SHOCKER!

You really gotta evaluate a person's actions to determine if they are worth having a child with. And you ALWAYS have to take into consideration 'If this shit goes left, is this person gonna be an adult about it try to make my life hell just on GP?'.

Most niggas don't do that.

Agree or disagree?

I disagree unless u saying every woman u had sex with

u were in a serious relationship and took a decent amount of time to get to know her 1st.........and I don't mean just a few weeks/months

my beef is mofos love to simplify these issues cuz deep down inside they don't want to admit that the same situation could happen to them

it's plenty of mofos in relationships and marriages who have a false sense of superiority by thinking bad shit only happens to OTHER people who aren't as logical/ethical/intuitive as they believe themselves to be.......it's like mofos love to think their relationship is so much better......meanwhile everybody has their own problems/issues to work thru

every single parent and every divorced person never imagined it could happen to them either......cats tend to disregard how romantic emotions affect real life situations SMH

Anybody who is sexually active should have the common sense to know some shit could always happen that you don't plan on no matter how long you been with somebody. The thing is, at least be able to admit you're part of the reason your situation is fucked up and not just 100% on "Nah, that bitch just crazy"..