Flash vs. Juggernaut

[gns]

Man everytime y'all mention flash he miraculously has a new fucking power. The hell?!

Funny he's so.powerful yet.this happened to him by a person nowhere as fast as him :

 

[not this again!]

I see this being either flash wins or stalemate. Flash is not stopping to let slow ass juggs hurt him. Y'all make Barry out to be weak when he has regenerative powers. Wally West will not hold back and will murder juggs, Barry will play light and make this a stalemate. Juggs has eyes that aren't invulnerable, y'all saw justice league war when he took out darkseids eyes, let's not pretend juggs wouldn't get murdered in .5 seconds flat against him.

Flash speed is what gives him super strength so it's not like his punches can't be felt if there's 1,000,000,000,000 of them per second.

Okay, once again.....

What is Flash going to be able to do to even hurt Juggernaut? Juggernaut's natural invulnerability and his personal force field are both magical in nature. Magic defies the laws of physics.

Thor, who is vastly more powerful than Flash, had to neutralize Juggernaut's force field to be able to hurt him. Flash is not vibrating through a magic forcefield, and there's nothing he can do to neutralize it.

Even if Flash could hurt Juggernaut, the magic that powers him would heal whatever damage Flash dished out.

So again, tell me what Flash can do.

 

[not this again!]

Superman fucked Juggs up.

Superman couldn't handle Superman Prime, let alone Superboy Prime. Superman at top level was shown to not be able to match a Flash unless he was doing it for charity to make it appear competitive.

Flash dumps Juggs in the Speedforce, he's out of play for good. Shit, he infinite mass punches him, he's knocked out of orbit and into another dimension/timezone entirely.

How's Flash going to dump Juggernaut in the speed force when he wouldn't be able to stop Juggernaut or even slow him down, much less carry him into the speed force?

The infinite mass punch isn't going to do anything, either. Juggernaut can't be stopped by any physical force. And people seem to be forgetting you're talking about a being powered by magic from an Elder God. Flash doesn't have the power to circumvent Cyttorak's enchantments.

I like Flash way more than Juggernaut, but there's no way Flash can win here.

 

[evoljeanyes]

Juggernaut would fuck this niggas life up

 

[BangEm_Bart]

Just face it, Flash will speed stomp the dog shit out of juggs and walk out untouched.

 

[veikuri]

Just face it, Flash will speed stomp the dog shit out of juggs and walk out untouched.

Except juggernaut is virtually immune to physical damage. What do people not get about this?

There is a difference between being very durable and being immune. No matter how many times Flash punches Juggs nothing will happen.

 

[The_Jackal]

Man everytime y'all mention flash he miraculously has a new fucking power. The hell?!

Funny he's so.powerful yet.this happened to him by a person nowhere as fast as him :

But that's not canon

 

[The_Jackal]

To keep it 100 if the flash doesn't decide to just completely alter reality or go back in time to just kill him before he gets the power of cryortok(I think that's what it's called) then it ends in a stalemate. Flash couldn't hurt him and juggernaut sure as fuck ain't touching him

 

[veikuri]

To keep it 100 if the flash doesn't decide to just completely alter reality or go back in time to just kill him before he gets the power of cryortok(I think that's what it's called) then it ends in a stalemate. Flash couldn't hurt him and juggernaut sure as fuck ain't touching him

And what happens when Cyttorak says no?

 

[The_Jackal]

To keep it 100 if the flash doesn't decide to just completely alter reality or go back in time to just kill him before he gets the power of cryortok(I think that's what it's called) then it ends in a stalemate. Flash couldn't hurt him and juggernaut sure as fuck ain't touching him

And what happens when Cyttorak says no?

Says no to what lol. Flash has ran so far into the future that he eventually out ran the end of the universe and the very end of the concept of death. I'm sure he can run back into a point where even Cyttorak didn't exist and stop him (at least wally west could)

 

[The_Jackal]

Here is the full thing. Tell me how is any nigga fucking with someone who can freely move to the beginning or end of the universe with no problem.

That's wally west not Barry tho

 

[veikuri]

To keep it 100 if the flash doesn't decide to just completely alter reality or go back in time to just kill him before he gets the power of cryortok(I think that's what it's called) then it ends in a stalemate. Flash couldn't hurt him and juggernaut sure as fuck ain't touching him

And what happens when Cyttorak says no?

Says no to what lol. Flash has ran so far into the future that he eventually out ran the end of the universe and the very end of the concept of death. I'm sure he can run back into a point where even Cyttorak didn't exist and stop him (at least wally west could)

So you took an high end showing and think thats a casual feat for Flash?

 

[The_Jackal]

To keep it 100 if the flash doesn't decide to just completely alter reality or go back in time to just kill him before he gets the power of cryortok(I think that's what it's called) then it ends in a stalemate. Flash couldn't hurt him and juggernaut sure as fuck ain't touching him

And what happens when Cyttorak says no?

Says no to what lol. Flash has ran so far into the future that he eventually out ran the end of the universe and the very end of the concept of death. I'm sure he can run back into a point where even Cyttorak didn't exist and stop him (at least wally west could)

So you took an high end showing and think thats a casual feat for Flash?

But it is a causal feat. Both wally and Barry both shown the abilities to do this that's why the whole nu52 is a thing because of Barry just not giving a fuck and changing the past like it's nothing. There's no way for juggernaut to even counter flash in anyway

 

[jaxn]

what in the world is going on in this thread??? There is literally nothing Flash can do to hurt Juggernaut. Nothing. At. All. If he can't battlefield remove Cain then it's a wrap for him. Flash has IMP but he's not Superman..He doesn't walk around with CL 100 strength nor top tier durability. Flash may be able to drop him in the speed force but I don't know how that would work with Cytorrak's magic.

 

[CottonCitySlim]

How he gonna drop juggs anywhere, first he has to stop Cain which is impossible once he gets moving, then he has lift that big ass nigga and carry him. This was a bad match up for flash, both Really

 

[DarkRaiden]

Woah...niggas need to stop fronting. You can believe Flash beats Juggernaut, but saying he's greater than Cyttorak? Dude who had Classic Dr. Strange helpless? Dude who when Juggernaut got almost 100% of his strength, Juggs was punching through dimensions? Nah. Kill that noise. Cyttorak>Flash.

 

[veikuri]

Woah...niggas need to stop fronting. You can believe Flash beats Juggernaut, but saying he's greater than Cyttorak? Dude who had Classic Dr. Strange helpless? Dude who when Juggernaut got almost 100% of his strength, Juggs was punching through dimensions? Nah. Kill that noise. Cyttorak>Flash.

Speed force is a higher dimension of unlimited power constantly, Cytorrak limits the flow to Juggernaut based on his crush/kill/destroy quota which is how Colossus swiped that shit during Fear Itself. Niagra Falls > a faucet.

As for feats... Juggs punched reality? So did Superboy Prime. Guess who rewrote reality twice? The Barry Allen Flash, Flashpoint reality and Nu52. Who outran Death itself? Barry Allen Flash? Who ran so hard and so fast before he understood he true connection to the Speed Force that allowed him to come back multiple times after his own death, effectively creating the New Universe with his sacrifice in Crisis? Barry Allen.

Flashes are being imbued as avatars of the principles of god level speed, even in the Nu52 Earth 2 where Mercury empowered Jay Garrick. Juggernaut is an old God's freak on a leash paying forward by knocking shit over.

You're severely underrating Cyttorak if you believe Flash can beat him.

You could all the Flashes together and they're not going to do much to Cyttorak. Please stop that nonsense.

 

[a.mann]

Here is the full thing. Tell me how is any nigga fucking with someone who can freely move to the beginning or end of the universe with no problem.

That's wally west not Barry tho

see.....shit like this is ultimately why

Marvel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DC

Seriously what is the fucking point of having ANY human,Earth based character being this stupidly ridiculously powerful????

He's a fucking cosmic entity......up there with the Spectre and Living Tribunal doing shit like this!

(actually pass them!)

But yet we suppose to believe one of his greatest enemies is "Captain Cold"???

After seeing a dude running to the beginning of time and then to the end of....CREATION.......

the suspension of disbelief just becomes null & void seeing him fight street level opponents ever again.

 

[a.mann]

And as physical powerful as the Juggernaut is.....he can be CONVINCINGLY defeated.

He does have "weakness" and disadvantages

1) Although not a complete idiot, he's not THAT smart and clever. You can out think him.

2)It is possible to cut him off from his power source,like Thor did.

But with a nigga that can outrun "thought",run 1000000 times faster than light,run circles around God

I mean come on......what's the use of character like this???

 

[The_Jackal]

Here is the full thing. Tell me how is any nigga fucking with someone who can freely move to the beginning or end of the universe with no problem.

That's wally west not Barry tho

see.....shit like this is ultimately why

Marvel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DC

Seriously what is the fucking point of having ANY human,Earth based character being this stupidly ridiculously powerful????

He's a fucking cosmic entity......up there with the Spectre and Living Tribunal doing shit like this!

(actually pass them!)

But yet we suppose to believe one of his greatest enemies is "Captain Cold"???

After seeing a dude running to the beginning of time and then to the end of....CREATION.......

the suspension of disbelief just becomes null & void seeing him fight street level opponents ever again.

No but that's why DC is so great. Flash rogue gallery don't give him any main threat in the long run but are still dedicated criminals. Their not like batman rogues who just break out of jail every few months when they get knocked they end up doing their time. Makes the very focus and dedicated when it comes to committing criminals and perfecting plans and they leave no clues of any sort behind.