Maximus Rex
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rickmogul;9378146 said:
Enriquillo;9372957 said:
Everybody knows the history. Haitians kicked ass. Even Napoleon. Haitians even gave the warning and were honest in telling the foreigners to get off the island and leave or else they would be killed. They ruled for about 22 years. Who the fuck you think you're talking to? Haitians took over the whole damn island. Dominicans went crying to Spain to beg for help. Spain sent back in their military along with the help of other European nations and EVEN America joined in by embargoing all trade and exports from the entire island until Spain regained control. The French were all too willing to help since Napoleon was sour about losing. America told every nation if they traded with Haiti then it wouldn't do business with them ever. The reason they did this was they feared blacks in America rising up and revolting on plantations the way the Haitians did.
I"m really not talking to enriquillo-since folks like him obviously aren't in touch with what international history has written on that account. Let stupid be dumb.
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I've been to Santo Domingo, Punta Cana, Higuey, and Santiago. 2-3week vacations each time.Dated while I was there for 5 years two girls one from Samana and the other from Constanza. I'm going again to Constanza in January. Either I'm blind or only about 10% looked like the pictures below. This ain't even racism. I went there thinking I was gonna see White Latinos or expecting that whiter look like in Puerto Rico, Argentina, Colombia but the first thing THE very first thing my mind said to me when i wasn't even thinking was DAMN these folks are black when I got off the plane. Didn't wanna think it, but when I saw the people at the airport it just shocked the fuck out of me. The rest is literally history. And no I don't want them to be black any more than they want to be black and I don't give two fucks what they or we call them. I'm only expressing an unexpected reaction. Even the white dude on the plane next to me said the same thing when we flew into that airport right outside Santo Domingo. (I wrote more below for Maximus]
glad you had the energy to do it. Cause i ain't got the energy for history lessons sometime. It's written. Documented by like 10 countries (even wikipedia or google) and some ignore it. I've been there 6 times and yes it is racist, but to their credit it is a different type of racism that seems (only living there could reveal what's beneath what I can't see) less aggressive than America's by far....but yes still racist and definitely NOT educated on international black history or current states beyond Obama or national figures. There racism was like my sister's black but I"m white. Then you meet the sister and she's like "who said I'm black???" Then they both have the exact same parents.
Maximus Rex;9377648 said:Enriquillo;9376610 said:
That's my point you dumb fuck.
E nriquillo;9376610 said:
When did I say that it wasn't?
Enriquillo;9376610 said:
Why are you repeating things I've already said peg boy?
Enriquillo;9376610 said:
So David Ortiz, Johnny Cueto, and Tony Abreu aren't Dominicans?
Enriquillo;9376610 said:
Just as in America, they have white privilege.
Enriquillo;9376610 said:
Bitch ass muthafucka love those white hoes.
Enriquillo;9376610 said:
We've got blood and sweat equity in this muthafucka. Then again you racist white supremacist muthafuckas love telling a what to do and where to go when he can no longer offer you free labor.
Enriquillo;9376610 said:
The Latino equivalent to Mr. Charlie.
Enriquillo;9376610 said:
They wouldn't let us into West Point or Annapolis. And if you read African Americans were from from docile.
Enriquillo;9376610 said:
Where are the black CEOs in the DR? Who are the black academics in the DR? How many black doctors, attorneys, accountants do you have? Why is there a picture required on with job applications in the DR? How come if you don't have the complexion for the connection, they don't let you in certain clubs in that Coontastic country?
This stupid muthafucka is a perfect example of what Colin Cowherd was talking about when he Dominicans not having been known in having world class academic abilities. All this muthafucka has done is prove my point about the DR being a racist society. At here in America, a quick Google search will reveal black CEOs and academics. However all he's doing is staying on the white's dick.
Why are is a blatant racist white supremacist allow to post on a black broad?
glad you had the energy to do it. Cause i ain't got the energy for history lessons sometime. It's written. Documented by like 10 countries (even wikipedia or google) and some ignore it. I've been there 6 times and yes it is racist, but to their credit it is a different type of racism that seems (only living there could reveal what's beneath what I can't see) less aggressive than America's by far....but yes still racist and definitely NOT educated on international black history or current states beyond Obama or national figures. There racism was like my sister's black but I"m white. Then you meet the sister and she's like "who said I'm black???" Then they both have the exact same parents.
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luke1733;9378236 said:
Haiti didn't really win. They got the French out. Then the revolution happened. When France came back though Haiti had to bend to their demands which put them in near insurmountable debt. A real winner doesn't end up with the loser's foot on their throat.
StillFaggyAF
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LUClEN;9378287 said:
They kicked the French out with the revolution
It was until 1825 (at this time Haiti was controlling the eastern part of the island and was ruled by mulattos) France demanded money
THIRDSUPREME
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Enriquillo;9376596 said:AggyAF;9374752 said:
You where too much of a pussy to mention the craphole country where your family comes from. I know you're not an African-American, I just decided to shit on them again for the hell of it.lol You should tell me where exactly is your "fan" from, so I can respond to your bullshit accordingly. I'm sure you're not a Puerto Rican and outside of Puerto Rico, which is used as a gateway to the USA, there is no significant Dominican presence in any other Caribbean islands. And these days there are more Haitians migrating to Puerto Rico than Dominicans. Here is a video of the Dominican Navy capturing some dustyass Haitian boatpeople trying to migrate to PR.
And since you brought up the topic of pedophilia, here's a video on child prostitution in Haiti.
And another video on child Slavery in Haiti.
Cocolos and Haitian bitches are good at sucking dick, though I wouldn't fuck these nappy-headed whores even if they paid me for it. They're part of the under-class of the DR just like African-Americans are the under-class of the USA. The majority of streetwalker prostitutes in Sosua, Boca Chica, Terrenas, etc. are some ugly raggedy-ass looking Haitians and Cocolos, we call them "grillos" or crickets. The average Dominican wouldn't touch these bitches with a ten-foot pole. But black Americans have no standards, so they pay money to have sex with the absolute lowest rung of women in this country. They rather fuck these nasty bitches, since African-American women are even uglier and look like fat Gorillas in heat.
You morons know very little of DR, all you know about is getting cheap pussy in coastal areas, Black Americans contribute nothing to the tourism industry. DR receives millions of NON-BLACK North American, South American, European, Asian, and Middle-Eastern tourists every year who visit various parts of the country. In terms of historal landmarks, architecture, urbanism, nightlife, natural landscapes, cultural attractions, regional diversity, etc. DR is superior to most of the region. DR competes more with continental Latin-American countries for tourists, we're only surpassed by giants like Mexico, Brazil, Argentina in tourism dollars. we receive by far more tourists than any other Caribbean country. Shit, we get more tourists in ONE MONTH than Haiti does in a whole year.
In terms of architectural attractions, DR has the FIRST European city in the New World with buildings and landmarks that date back to the 1500s to the 1800s. But of course niggas aren't interested in shit like that. I don't see no African-Americans around these parts.
Santo Domingo mixes the classic and new, not only do we have the oldest architecture in the Western Hemisphere but we also have the most modern city in the Caribbean region in terms of infrastructure, with the tallest skyscrapers in the region.
DR not only has the tallest buildings in the Caribbean, but also the highest mountains in the Caribbean. Pico Duarte is taller than any mountain the Eastern region of the US and rises over 10,000 feet above sea level. DR has the most varied landscapes and climate zones in the Caribbean region.
This nigga is an emotional bitch made hoe......
Nigga dropped a whole magazine article about nothing complete with pictures and still....
And yet......
My nigga....
Nobody gives a fuck.....
You niggas are coons because we say you're coons....and that's the way it is B.
Deal with it.
That picture about tourism is misleading. DR is the most popular largely because it's cheap. Cuba was off limits to Americans for decades which drove up tourism to DR. Notice how the Bahamas, the richest Caribbean nation, has the least amount of tourism? It's because it's expensive af and more developed than DR and Cuba combined
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LUClEN;9378408 said:
FUCK YOU SPIC.
Haiti won the war what happens after the war is another matter the usa HAD a whole continent to exploit after the revolution and the support of other European nations. WHAT the Haitians did was even more extraordinary because they had the whole white world against them and nobody really supported them
FUCK YOU SPIC.
StillFaggyAF
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Cuba is going to dominate tourism when they open up to American business/tourism
The Caribbean needs to diversify our bonds
The Caribbean needs to diversify our bonds
The point is that at some point in the DR nobody was mixed. Folks might wanna read that former line again. The point is that at some point in the DR nobody was mixed. Here's the MATH
Let me do a DAMN TIMELINE: Timeline is based from 1492-1900 This includes the French and Spaniards (even though it is noted the Spaniards were more willing to fuck Africans than the French)
-So if the beginning was 1492 when Columbus arrived then he didn't come in that year and takeover the island in one day
-The island was still all Taino or indigenous in 1492 to let's say 1550. (It took damn a year to even travel on boat from Spain to Dominican)
-So by the 1600's Spaniards let's say had numbers around 1500 people 98% white male(make up what ever estimate--maybe it was 2,000 spaniards-either way the percent rate versus African and Indigenous will still be somewhat parallel to the point I am about to make) to go to divide in Hispaniola, Puerto Rico and Cuba, Jamaica.When he returned in 1493 he found all his colonists killed by the indigenous. He didn't return again till 1498. Anyways, main point is there was only even on the 1498 visit the division of spaniards to all those islands only a number of around 200 colonists per island. That's not outnumbering the indigenous and the Spaniards didn't immediately kill the indigenous. It wasn't till 1502 he had 4 ships and then his ass couldn't find Hispaniola again and ended up in Honduras. So again NO NUMBERS for WHITE BLOOD.
-So by the 1650's or 1670's Spaniards have control and bring in African Slaves in numbers. (Africans probably arrived before 1670 but I'm talking slavery and the actual numbers needed)***During this time Spaniards and French males continued to come, but they were also going to stay in france and spain and only a small percent was left to go to puerto rico, DR, cuba,mexico,panama, colombia,etcetera****So all that mixing of white spaniards being equal to the mixing of AFrican and Indigenous isn't logical to say it was at the same RATE if there were no WHITE WOMEN and only a small percentage of Spaniards and French were could even make it to the DR (versus the other who went to all the other islands). There's only so many whites to go around who were getting on those boats to go to like 20 different countries at this time.
So we have to assume Africans probably outnumbered everyone.
-1635 to like 1720 a ton of Africans were brought through the island of Santo Domingo because it was a port for transporting slaves to other islands. So we can say Africans far outnumbered the indigenous and the french males and spaniard males (since there were roughly close to barely any,any,any mulattoes existing above the age of 25. Not old enough or numerous enough in the early 1600's to identify as mulatto)
-So by 1700s African males and women were there with Spaniards (98%males only) andFRench
-So by 1700s the indigenous were outnumbered and overpowered and on their way to mixing or miscegenating to such a degree that they basically didn't exist anymore in the form of their original race. This complete assimilation worked in favor of increasing the mulatto or half breed-numbers.
-So by 1750 African males needed someone to fuck to create more slaves so Spaniards mixed the Indigenous women with the African males and from these offspring the Spaniards (with barely-no WHITE women of their own began also fucking the offspring of indigenous Indians and the Africans)
-AROUND 1720-1800 arised the birth of the mulattoes in the Dominican. Identity formed and the acknowledgment and separation from Africans and pure White Europeans manifested to a degree of dealing with mulattoes as an individual race.According to a timeline based on something this has to be somewhat accurate. I'm not saying mulattoes didn't exist in 1493, I'm just staying Columbus got there in 1492 and his men of around 40 whites realistically probably only had about 20 babies if that many. 20 babies ain't enough to continue the mulatto race to vast numbers, so that's why I put there numbers and true existence as far as having an identity and separation from Africans and White Europeans around 1720-1800.(Unless someone can prove Columbus was there before 1492)
-Around 1800-1900 (I"m stretching the truth a little, but it is a truth)mass genocides killed off many darker looking Dominicans and some Haitians and the races left over considered their identity as white/lighter skin and therefore by their own SELECTION bred with the lightest and continued doing this, thus giving a lighter skin based on mulatto.
-So my point is this for these mulattoes????? At some point you didn't exist and when you did exist you didn't immediately rule. So time and who got the power was simply divided on two lines: One- the Indigenous mixing with Africans and Two-the Whites fucking the offspring of both and determining who to pass the power onto.
It's not like the mulatto was always existent and there, so at some point they were adopted for a reason to serve the Whiter skin of the original conquerors of that island.
-Doing the math one sees that there were probably more African women brought than Spaniard women, Definitely more African men than WHITE women, So if African men and women (+) Indigenous men and women (+) outnumber (-) the French and Spaniard men then math shows a percentage. (But what do I know. I know over the past 200 years many nationalities and races have entered the D.R.-so now it is different.) But if you take my math and stop at 1900 that's what you get. Africans males fucked the indigenous. African women fucked African men. African women were fucked by Spaniard men and French men. Spaniard men fucked the Africans. Mulattoes were created. Africans fucked mulattoes created more slaves while Africans continued to be imported. Something doesn't add up???
Let me do a DAMN TIMELINE: Timeline is based from 1492-1900 This includes the French and Spaniards (even though it is noted the Spaniards were more willing to fuck Africans than the French)
-So if the beginning was 1492 when Columbus arrived then he didn't come in that year and takeover the island in one day
-The island was still all Taino or indigenous in 1492 to let's say 1550. (It took damn a year to even travel on boat from Spain to Dominican)
-So by the 1600's Spaniards let's say had numbers around 1500 people 98% white male(make up what ever estimate--maybe it was 2,000 spaniards-either way the percent rate versus African and Indigenous will still be somewhat parallel to the point I am about to make) to go to divide in Hispaniola, Puerto Rico and Cuba, Jamaica.When he returned in 1493 he found all his colonists killed by the indigenous. He didn't return again till 1498. Anyways, main point is there was only even on the 1498 visit the division of spaniards to all those islands only a number of around 200 colonists per island. That's not outnumbering the indigenous and the Spaniards didn't immediately kill the indigenous. It wasn't till 1502 he had 4 ships and then his ass couldn't find Hispaniola again and ended up in Honduras. So again NO NUMBERS for WHITE BLOOD.
-So by the 1650's or 1670's Spaniards have control and bring in African Slaves in numbers. (Africans probably arrived before 1670 but I'm talking slavery and the actual numbers needed)***During this time Spaniards and French males continued to come, but they were also going to stay in france and spain and only a small percent was left to go to puerto rico, DR, cuba,mexico,panama, colombia,etcetera****So all that mixing of white spaniards being equal to the mixing of AFrican and Indigenous isn't logical to say it was at the same RATE if there were no WHITE WOMEN and only a small percentage of Spaniards and French were could even make it to the DR (versus the other who went to all the other islands). There's only so many whites to go around who were getting on those boats to go to like 20 different countries at this time.
So we have to assume Africans probably outnumbered everyone.
-1635 to like 1720 a ton of Africans were brought through the island of Santo Domingo because it was a port for transporting slaves to other islands. So we can say Africans far outnumbered the indigenous and the french males and spaniard males (since there were roughly close to barely any,any,any mulattoes existing above the age of 25. Not old enough or numerous enough in the early 1600's to identify as mulatto)
-So by 1700s African males and women were there with Spaniards (98%males only) andFRench
-So by 1700s the indigenous were outnumbered and overpowered and on their way to mixing or miscegenating to such a degree that they basically didn't exist anymore in the form of their original race. This complete assimilation worked in favor of increasing the mulatto or half breed-numbers.
-So by 1750 African males needed someone to fuck to create more slaves so Spaniards mixed the Indigenous women with the African males and from these offspring the Spaniards (with barely-no WHITE women of their own began also fucking the offspring of indigenous Indians and the Africans)
-AROUND 1720-1800 arised the birth of the mulattoes in the Dominican. Identity formed and the acknowledgment and separation from Africans and pure White Europeans manifested to a degree of dealing with mulattoes as an individual race.According to a timeline based on something this has to be somewhat accurate. I'm not saying mulattoes didn't exist in 1493, I'm just staying Columbus got there in 1492 and his men of around 40 whites realistically probably only had about 20 babies if that many. 20 babies ain't enough to continue the mulatto race to vast numbers, so that's why I put there numbers and true existence as far as having an identity and separation from Africans and White Europeans around 1720-1800.(Unless someone can prove Columbus was there before 1492)
-Around 1800-1900 (I"m stretching the truth a little, but it is a truth)mass genocides killed off many darker looking Dominicans and some Haitians and the races left over considered their identity as white/lighter skin and therefore by their own SELECTION bred with the lightest and continued doing this, thus giving a lighter skin based on mulatto.
-So my point is this for these mulattoes????? At some point you didn't exist and when you did exist you didn't immediately rule. So time and who got the power was simply divided on two lines: One- the Indigenous mixing with Africans and Two-the Whites fucking the offspring of both and determining who to pass the power onto.
It's not like the mulatto was always existent and there, so at some point they were adopted for a reason to serve the Whiter skin of the original conquerors of that island.
-Doing the math one sees that there were probably more African women brought than Spaniard women, Definitely more African men than WHITE women, So if African men and women (+) Indigenous men and women (+) outnumber (-) the French and Spaniard men then math shows a percentage. (But what do I know. I know over the past 200 years many nationalities and races have entered the D.R.-so now it is different.) But if you take my math and stop at 1900 that's what you get. Africans males fucked the indigenous. African women fucked African men. African women were fucked by Spaniard men and French men. Spaniard men fucked the Africans. Mulattoes were created. Africans fucked mulattoes created more slaves while Africans continued to be imported. Something doesn't add up???
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LUClEN;9378348 said:
Something is seriously wrong with this dude's perspective if he can give a super power nation working also with the financing and military support of other super power European Nations-and this guy gives them (France) the excuse that France was imploding and this is why a group of slaves with no trained military and outgunned and have no political or economic power could overcome and kick the French and Spanish off the island for 22 years. Damn, that's a perfect example of how far he sympathizes with France to still play like them being beat and kicked out for 22 years only happened because they had some financial problems. What about SLAVES financial problems dumbass????
France was invading many places besides Haiti, but for unarmed slaves to go against multiple European nations and win and have control for 22 years and continue trade and distribute and restructure an economy without other European/American nations knowing for years THAT was a MAJOR victory.
Even Egypt hasn't been able to keep its economy as steady as that immediately after overthrowing their own President years ago.
By 1803 Napoleon was ready to get Haiti off his back: he and Toussaint agreed to terms of peace. Napoleon agreed to recognize Haitian independence and Toussaint agreed to retire from public life. A few months later, the French invited Toussaint to come to a negotiating meeting will full safe conduct. When he arrived, the French (at Napoleon's orders) betrayed the safe conduct and arrested him, putting him on a ship headed for France. Napoleon ordered that Toussaint be placed in a prison dungeon in the mountains, and murdered by means of cold, starvation, and neglect. Toussaint died in prison, but others carried on the fight for freedom.
Main point is (and since I'm going off my own knowledge of 10 years ago it might be a little hazy in some aspects, but basically
Haiti took over the whole island. Haitians broke bread and peace with mulattoes but the mulattoes did not like the Haitian religion and were fearful of losing their status and perceived hierarchy that was color based. Mulattoes sought Spain and the French's help. America, Spain, France and I can't remember the other European nations got together to work out a peace to include Haiti (trick Haiti) in order to protect their investments and collectively went to war again with Haiti. The mulattoes knew from the talks with Spain and France that they would be given the country and the Spaniards and French would leave again (for this time by choice) when the war was over. The Spaniards and French won the war and they were too slow leaving and wanted to keep White power and that's when Trujillo and his team of mulattoes and some black Dominicans collectively got together and effectively kicked out the remaining White conquerors and took sovereign control over the land, or somewhat sovereign, because they continued to want to bend over for Spain and allow Spain to basically own them.Now onto another point. I've been to Aruba, Grand Cayman Islands, Panama, Costa Rica and I've seen the Dominicans there and yes they are always in very subserviant positions. Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Colombians often refer to Dominicans as the black latinos.
If you don't wanna be black fuck it you're not black. I don't give a fuck and definitely don't want to claim you and don't want you claiming any part of my history.
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luke1733;9378483 said:LUClEN;9378348 said:
Something is seriously wrong with this dude's perspective if he can give a super power nation working also with the financing and military support of other super power European Nations-and this guy gives them (France) the excuse that France was imploding and this is why a group of slaves with no trained military and outgunned and have no political or economic power could overcome and kick the French and Spanish off the island for 22 years. Damn, that's a perfect example of how far he sympathizes with France to still play like them being beat and kicked out for 22 years only happened because they had some financial problems. What about SLAVES financial problems dumbass????
France was invading many places besides Haiti, but for unarmed slaves to go against multiple European nations and win and have control for 22 years and continue trade and distribute and restructure an economy without other European/American nations knowing for years THAT was a MAJOR victory.
Even Egypt hasn't been able to keep its economy as steady as that immediately after overthrowing their own President years ago.
By 1803 Napoleon was ready to get Haiti off his back: he and Toussaint agreed to terms of peace. Napoleon agreed to recognize Haitian independence and Toussaint agreed to retire from public life. A few months later, the French invited Toussaint to come to a negotiating meeting will full safe conduct. When he arrived, the French (at Napoleon's orders) betrayed the safe conduct and arrested him, putting him on a ship headed for France. Napoleon ordered that Toussaint be placed in a prison dungeon in the mountains, and murdered by means of cold, starvation, and neglect. Toussaint died in prison, but others carried on the fight for freedom.
Main point is (and since I'm going off my own knowledge of 10 years ago it might be a little hazy in some aspects, but basically
Now onto another point. I've been to Aruba, Grand Cayman Islands, Panama, Costa Rica and I've seen the Dominicans there and yes they are always in very subserviant positions. Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Colombians often refer to Dominicans as the black latinos.
If you don't wanna be black fuck it you're not black. I don't give a fuck and definitely don't want to claim you and don't want you claiming any part of my history.
Trujillo didn't come to power until a century later. How does he even fit into this? Your history is off
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LUClEN;9378408 said:
Bad leadership. The people were ready for war but the mullato coward elites didn't want to fight. They cared more about white acceptance. And to compare Haiti's independence to America's is comparing apples to orange. After we got independence nobody nation wanted to deal with us or accept our independence only until slavery was ultimately abolished. By that times Haiti was economically ruined after decades of being isolated.
