Father Shot By Police After Nasty Custody Battle:

[desertrain10]

Smh but we live in a patriarchal society tho where weirdly women get preferential treatment in custody cases and can rape a man's pockets through "no fault divorce"

Weird.

@desertrain10

lol

most our laws are essentially all very patriarchal. mothers are more likely to receive and seek custody of their children ( and spousal support) because of the patriarchal notion that men are not meant to be caregivers and that women are not meant to breadwinners.

and though it is true that women are far more likely to be awarded custody, they are also far more likely to ask for it in the first place. to establish bias, one must show that equally qualified fathers who request custody are denied more than half of the time, and the numbers says differently. courts can't be expected to award what they're not asked to. studies have found fathers who ask for custody are very likely to get either sole or joint custody.http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/254/mcneely.pdf

for the most part, custody awards reflects a preference for the status quo (i.e. the child's primary care giver) rather than bias against fathers. since birth women generally are the primary care giver child(ren) while the man works -a manifestation of patriarchy

also one must consider lower/middle income people are less able to afford the lawyers and experts needed in contested custody cases, appeals, etc

with that said i don't see how this case or cases alike discredits or sheds any new light on the ways in which social policies/ soceity perpetuate women's subordination and economic insecurity now or in the past. nor does it address the glass ceiling women face in the workforce, politics etc ... all of which contributes to the following: women represent a disproportionate share of the poor, women are more likely to be poor than men, and single mothers are more likely to live in poverty than single fathers...
http://www.ncrw.org/public-forum/re...s-alarm-experts-women-disproportionately-poor

we still live in a patriarchal soceity bruh

also seems as though he was emotionally unstable so that could have had some bearing on why the courts ruled the way they did

 

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[desertrain10]

Smh but we live in a patriarchal society tho where weirdly women get preferential treatment in custody cases and can rape a man's pockets through "no fault divorce"

Weird.

@desertrain10

also at the end of the day the laws were designed to protect children, not give women some sort of preferential treatment...

if women were somehow favored why are female victims of domestic violence often characterized as unfit for parenting by the court, regularly prosecuted for neglect for "allowing" their children to witness domestic violence or for failing to seek an order of protection and leave the relationship, and are prosecuted when they come to the authorities' attention because they have taken action. many of these mothers often lose their children to foster care

not saying its right or wrong ...but alluding to custody battles as an instance in which women supposedly experience privilege is sort sighted and really does nothing to derail feminist arguments against patriarchy

 

[deadeye]

Smh but we live in a patriarchal society tho where weirdly women get preferential treatment in custody cases and can rape a man's pockets through "no fault divorce"

Weird.

@desertrain10

lol

most our laws are essentially all very patriarchal. mothers are more likely to receive custody of their children because of the patriarchal notion that men are not meant to be caregivers and that women are not meant to breadwinners.

and though it is true that women are far more likely to be awarded custody, they are also far more likely to ask for it in the first place. to establish bias, one must show that equally qualified fathers who request custody are denied more than half of the time, and the numbers says differently. courts can't be expected to award what they're not asked to. studies have found fathers who ask for custody are very likely to get either sole or joint custody.http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/254/mcneely.pdf

for the most part, custody awards reflects a preference for the status quo, rather than bias against fathers. also it more so an indictment on how we treat the poor in soceity. lower/middle income people are less able to afford the lawyers and experts needed in contested custody cases

with that said i don't see how this case or cases alike discredits or sheds any new light on the ways in which social policies/ soceity perpetuate women's subordination and economic insecurity now or in the past. nor does it address the glass ceiling women face in the workforce, politics etc ... all of which contributes to the following: women represent a disproportionate share of the poor, women are more likely to be poor than men, and single mothers are more likely to live in poverty than single fathers...
http://www.ncrw.org/public-forum/re...s-alarm-experts-women-disproportionately-poor

we still live in a patriarchal soceity bruh

also seems as though he was emotionally unstable so that could have had some bearing on why the courts ruled the way they did

Excellent points.

The bolded in particular.

 

[desertrain10]

Smh but we live in a patriarchal society tho where weirdly women get preferential treatment in custody cases and can rape a man's pockets through "no fault divorce"

Weird.

@desertrain10

lol

most our laws are essentially all very patriarchal. mothers are more likely to receive custody of their children because of the patriarchal notion that men are not meant to be caregivers and that women are not meant to breadwinners.

and though it is true that women are far more likely to be awarded custody, they are also far more likely to ask for it in the first place. to establish bias, one must show that equally qualified fathers who request custody are denied more than half of the time, and the numbers says differently. courts can't be expected to award what they're not asked to. studies have found fathers who ask for custody are very likely to get either sole or joint custody.http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/254/mcneely.pdf

for the most part, custody awards reflects a preference for the status quo, rather than bias against fathers. also it more so an indictment on how we treat the poor in soceity. lower/middle income people are less able to afford the lawyers and experts needed in contested custody cases

with that said i don't see how this case or cases alike discredits or sheds any new light on the ways in which social policies/ soceity perpetuate women's subordination and economic insecurity now or in the past. nor does it address the glass ceiling women face in the workforce, politics etc ... all of which contributes to the following: women represent a disproportionate share of the poor, women are more likely to be poor than men, and single mothers are more likely to live in poverty than single fathers...
http://www.ncrw.org/public-forum/re...s-alarm-experts-women-disproportionately-poor

we still live in a patriarchal soceity bruh

also seems as though he was emotionally unstable so that could have had some bearing on why the courts ruled the way they did

Excellent points.

The bolded in particular.

i know

now try to refrain from the women get preferential treatment, anti-feminism rhetoric

 

[deadeye]

Smh but we live in a patriarchal society tho where weirdly women get preferential treatment in custody cases and can rape a man's pockets through "no fault divorce"

Weird.

@desertrain10

lol

most our laws are essentially all very patriarchal. mothers are more likely to receive custody of their children because of the patriarchal notion that men are not meant to be caregivers and that women are not meant to breadwinners.

and though it is true that women are far more likely to be awarded custody, they are also far more likely to ask for it in the first place. to establish bias, one must show that equally qualified fathers who request custody are denied more than half of the time, and the numbers says differently. courts can't be expected to award what they're not asked to. studies have found fathers who ask for custody are very likely to get either sole or joint custody.http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/254/mcneely.pdf

for the most part, custody awards reflects a preference for the status quo, rather than bias against fathers. also it more so an indictment on how we treat the poor in soceity. lower/middle income people are less able to afford the lawyers and experts needed in contested custody cases

with that said i don't see how this case or cases alike discredits or sheds any new light on the ways in which social policies/ soceity perpetuate women's subordination and economic insecurity now or in the past. nor does it address the glass ceiling women face in the workforce, politics etc ... all of which contributes to the following: women represent a disproportionate share of the poor, women are more likely to be poor than men, and single mothers are more likely to live in poverty than single fathers...
http://www.ncrw.org/public-forum/re...s-alarm-experts-women-disproportionately-poor

we still live in a patriarchal soceity bruh

also seems as though he was emotionally unstable so that could have had some bearing on why the courts ruled the way they did

Excellent points.

The bolded in particular.

i know

now try to refrain from the women get preferential treatment, anti-feminism rhetoric

I said they were excellent points because they actually support what most of us have been saying all along about how the courts favor women in most custody cases.

You said it from a different perspective, but the end result was still the same.

 

[desertrain10]

Smh but we live in a patriarchal society tho where weirdly women get preferential treatment in custody cases and can rape a man's pockets through "no fault divorce"

Weird.

@desertrain10

lol

most our laws are essentially all very patriarchal. mothers are more likely to receive custody of their children because of the patriarchal notion that men are not meant to be caregivers and that women are not meant to breadwinners.

and though it is true that women are far more likely to be awarded custody, they are also far more likely to ask for it in the first place. to establish bias, one must show that equally qualified fathers who request custody are denied more than half of the time, and the numbers says differently. courts can't be expected to award what they're not asked to. studies have found fathers who ask for custody are very likely to get either sole or joint custody.http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/254/mcneely.pdf

for the most part, custody awards reflects a preference for the status quo, rather than bias against fathers. also it more so an indictment on how we treat the poor in soceity. lower/middle income people are less able to afford the lawyers and experts needed in contested custody cases

with that said i don't see how this case or cases alike discredits or sheds any new light on the ways in which social policies/ soceity perpetuate women's subordination and economic insecurity now or in the past. nor does it address the glass ceiling women face in the workforce, politics etc ... all of which contributes to the following: women represent a disproportionate share of the poor, women are more likely to be poor than men, and single mothers are more likely to live in poverty than single fathers...
http://www.ncrw.org/public-forum/re...s-alarm-experts-women-disproportionately-poor

we still live in a patriarchal soceity bruh

also seems as though he was emotionally unstable so that could have had some bearing on why the courts ruled the way they did

Excellent points.

The bolded in particular.

i know

now try to refrain from the women get preferential treatment, anti-feminism rhetoric

I said they were excellent points because they actually support what most of us have been saying all along about how the courts favor women in most custody cases.

You said it from a different perspective, but the end result was still the same.

yes and no

what i was arguing is that custody awards data reflects a preference for the status quo (i.e. the child's primary care giver) ....be it a man or woman

women generally are the primary care giver of the child(ren) while the man works -which is a manifestation of patriarchy. the very same patriarchy a lot of men champion

so the source of the bias is not in the courts

 

[2Gee4FourRoomz]

I live in durham and everyone on my facebook know this nigga shit is real but I really have no opinion about this shit. R.I.P

 

[Dr.Chemix]

So he chose to abandon the son and let her fuckery continue? Yea its sad but damn man that's a cop out. No matter how you cut it. That shit is a cop out. I know broads drive you crazy but for your son, you should have stayed. This goes for all brothers in this situation. Again, its a fucked up situation but you gotta stay strong out here mentally. And you gotta know who you impregnating out here instead of just getting wrapped up in a juicy pussy and the instinctual need to bust up in it because she got that "wet wet"

Worldly folks seek to destroy and confuse.

Now he's fallen and lost...his death can impact his son in so many ways. And now he's got a bird filling his head up. And thus an even bigger problem is now created...a new cycle.

 

[deadeye]

So he chose to abandon the son and let her fuckery continue? Yea its sad but damn man that's a cop out. No matter how you cut it. That shit is a cop out. I know broads drive you crazy but for your son, you should have stayed. This goes for all brothers in this situation. Again, its a fucked up situation but you gotta stay strong out here mentally. And you gotta know who you impregnating out here instead of just getting wrapped up in a juicy pussy and the instinctual need to bust up in it because she got that "wet wet"

Worldly folks seek to destroy and confuse.

Now he's fallen and lost...his death can impact his son in so many ways. And now he's got a bird filling his head up. And thus an even bigger problem is now created...a new cycle.

Dude's situation was fucked up from the beginning.

He's 26, she's 20, and their son is 5.

Those numbers tell a fucked up story.

Either he was 20 and he ran up in her when she was 14.....or he was 21 and got her pregnant at 15.

To put that in an even greater perspective, this nigga fucked her when she was either in 8th grade, 9th grade, or 10th grade.

Hell, she only got pregnant at 14/15 so he could've been fucking her long before that.

Dude said they've been locked in a custody battle for 5 years, so.....for the 1st 3 years of that battle....old girl was 15, 16, and 17.

Meaning, dude's been in a custody fight with a teenage girl for 3 years.

Shit's fucked up all the way around.

Now, the age disparity brings about another set of issues altogether (molestation, statutory rape, etc) ......but this same scenario could've easily happened with a woman his own age as well.

Not sure if that means teenage girls have the same mentality as grown women......or if it means grown women have the same mentality as teenage girls.

Sad commentary on society either way.

 

[mrrealone]

I can only wonder what dude was thinking to kill himself tho?? Understood he going through h3ll w/ a bird, but how is that supposed to help his son in the long run?? I'd bring damage to the broad before I did it to myself if it had to come down to it.......

The last straw for him probably when she turned the son against him, then asked to take the weekday visitations away. Probably crushed his soul to know all he has done for his son, then for his son to say that shit about him.

This is stuff that can be reversed. It may be difficult as h3ll tho, but the son would eventually see thru the lies his mom's was saying in due time. She asked the courts to take away that visitation cause school was starting (according to her) so the courts didn't definitely say "Yay" or "Nay" (which probably would've ended in her favor). And if they did end in her favor, could it not be changed?? There has to be plenty of fathers who went through worse out there than what he was going through. Especially dudes who get sowed up by the laws, find out the child is not theirs, and the laws still burn they souls. Gorilla's probably got him beat if all that stuff he typed was just the tip of what he was going through.

This was bs she was putting him through, but nothing for him to end his life by cop...........

 

[2stepz_ahead]

he must not have had a dad.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

SMH @ this bullshit..

 

[spit_fiya]

On a different note, I don't see how niggas can not ever see any red flags of their woman being a vindictive bitch before they put a fucking baby in her belly.

There's no way of tellin on the first night homie...and i can't even say "why would a dude bust in a broad on the 1st night???"....just browse through illpix and you'll find the answer.