Fact: Kanye is a better producer than Dr. Dre

[georgia boi]

Has Kanye West ever taken credit for producing a song that he didn't really produce? Cause Pac said Dre did...

Glad you brought that up:

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2011/06/d-dot-on-kanye-west-he-didnt-do-right-by-his-og/

Former Diddy-affiliated producer and ex-Kanye West mentor Deric “D-Dot” Angelettie said that he and the Louis Vuitton Don are on speaking terms, though he feels slighted by his one-time protégé.

“When we see each other we shake each other hands and say what’s up, but he didn’t do right by his O.G.,” D-Dot, who is also known for his famous alter-ego The Mad Rapper, told XXLMag.com. “I didn’t do nothing to him. I didn’t rob him. All that ghost production shit he started and had the world makin’ ‘em think that he did everything.”

The two have experienced friction over West alleging that D-Dot, who was a member of the Bad Boy production squad The Hitmen and created tracks including The Notorious B.I.G.’s “Hypnotize” and Diddy’s “It’s All About the Benjamins,” took credit for beats that an up-and-coming West produced.

“He’s doin’ it right now and been doin’ for the last 5 or 6 years,” D-Dot said, “so all that shit he had people believing is actually disrespectful by believing that somebody like myself would actually take his music and rob him and put my name on it like he didn’t get credit.”

Look out for the full feature on D-Dot next Tuesday (June 21). —Lauren Carter with additional reporting by Carl Chery

^^^ That's from an interview two days ago of D. Dot clarifying that Kanye is doing now what Kanye accused him of doing.

 

[KingJamal]

Ironically, Dr. Dre has made several beats by his lonely since Kanye has. "Ridaz" >>>> "Haters" and "Young Forever". Those are some of the last beats either producer did on their own.

Again, people are giving Kanye a pass for using co-producers or are simply unaware that dude rarely works alone these days behind the boards.

I know that Kanye has used co producers (especially on MBTDF)

 

[KingJamal]

Glad you brought that up:

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2011/06/d-dot-on-kanye-west-he-didnt-do-right-by-his-og/

Former Diddy-affiliated producer and ex-Kanye West mentor Deric “D-Dot” Angelettie said that he and the Louis Vuitton Don are on speaking terms, though he feels slighted by his one-time protégé.

“When we see each other we shake each other hands and say what’s up, but he didn’t do right by his O.G.,” D-Dot, who is also known for his famous alter-ego The Mad Rapper, told XXLMag.com. “I didn’t do nothing to him. I didn’t rob him. All that ghost production shit he started and had the world makin’ ‘em think that he did everything.”

The two have experienced friction over West alleging that D-Dot, who was a member of the Bad Boy production squad The Hitmen and created tracks including The Notorious B.I.G.’s “Hypnotize” and Diddy’s “It’s All About the Benjamins,” took credit for beats that an up-and-coming West produced.

“He’s doin’ it right now and been doin’ for the last 5 or 6 years,” D-Dot said, “so all that shit he had people believing is actually disrespectful by believing that somebody like myself would actually take his music and rob him and put my name on it like he didn’t get credit.”

Look out for the full feature on D-Dot next Tuesday (June 21). —Lauren Carter with additional reporting by Carl Chery

^^^ That's from an interview two days ago of D. Dot clarifying that Kanye is doing now what Kanye accused him of doing.

We'll see wat becomes of this

 

[georgia boi]

I know that Kanye has used co producers (especially on MBTDF)

Why ask what was the last great beat that Dre created by himself, when Kanye doesn't even make beats by himself anymore? Looking closely at what both producers have done in the past five years, Dre definitely gives Kanye competition.

 

[Kame]

Why ask what was the last great beat that Dre created by himself, when Kanye doesn't even make beats by himself anymore? Looking closely at what both producers have done in the past five years, Dre definitely gives Kanye competition.

No he doesnt though.... they both use co producers yes... but the sheer output of what they have put out in the past 5/6 years Ye>>Dre (past 6 years)

 

[KingJamal]

Why ask what was the last great beat that Dre created by himself, when Kanye doesn't even make beats by himself anymore? Looking closely at what both producers have done in the past five years, Dre definitely gives Kanye competition.

lol I don't think so

Like I said even on Ye's worst album 808s he still had some great production like Robocop (which he did himself)

 

[georgia boi]

Feelings have been caught. I was born in the 80s. And Dre barely even did anything for nuthin but a g thang

[video=youtube;GWX-xVmS8AE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWX-xVmS8AE[/video]

How does this pass for genius though?

[video=youtube;0bAFITGnjrg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bAFITGnjrg[/video]

It's not really different from what Dre did with Leon Haywood.

 

[Kame]

Anyone who says Dre has put out better work than Ye in the past 6 years is probably an old head..........

Dre a legend yes... thats irrefutable

He just hasnt put out legendary shit in a while

We're not talking 80's or 90's.... we're talking 05-now

 

[KingJamal]

How does this pass for genius though?

[video=youtube;0bAFITGnjrg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bAFITGnjrg[/video]

It's not really different from what Dre did with Leon Haywood.

Naw that Leon Haywood sample was laid out for him on a platter lol

I feel the Doors sample took just a lil bit more work

 

[georgia boi]

No he doesnt though.... they both use co producers yes... but the sheer output of what they have put out in the past 5/6 years Ye>>Dre (past 6 years)

Since June 2006, Dre has produced

01. "Get You Some" (feat. Marsha Ambrosius & Q-Tip) (Produced with Mark Batson)

03. "How We Do It Over Here" (feat. Missy Elliot)

05. "Been Through The Storm" (feat. Stevie Wonder) (Additional production with Sha Money XL & Black Jeruz)

Sample Credit: "Everlasting Love" by Felix Cavaliere

06. "In the Ghetto" (feat. Rick James) (Additional production with DJ Green Lantern)

07. "Cocaina" (feat. Marsha Ambrosius) (Produced with Mark Batson)

09. "Goldmine" (feat. Raekwon) (Additional production with Erick Sermon)

11. "Don't Get Carried Away" (feat. Nas)

15. "Legend of the Fall Off's"

Sample Credit: "Do You Ever" by Return to Forever

[edit] Jay-Z - Kingdom Come05. "Lost One" (feat. Chrisette Michele) (Produced with Mark Batson)

07. "30 Something"

11. "Trouble" (Produced with Mark Batson)

13. "Minority Report" (feat. Ne-Yo)

Sample Credit: "Non ti scordar di me" by Luciano Pavarotti

[edit] Snoop Dogg - Tha Blue Carpet Treatment09. "Boss' Life" (feat. Akon) (Produced with Mark Batson)

Sample Credit: "If Tomorrow Never Comes" by The Controllers

Sample Credit: "Everybody Rise" by Busta Rhymes

12. "Round Here"

Sample Credit: "Thank You" by Dido

20. "Imagine" (feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo) (Produced with Mark Batson)

[edit] Shady Records - Eminem Presents: The Re-Up18. "Get Low" (Stat Quo)

[edit] Nas - Hip Hop Is Dead15. "Hustlers" (feat. The Game & Marsha Ambrosius)

[edit] 2007[edit] Young Buck - Buck the World08. "Hold On" (feat. 50 Cent) (Produced with Che Vicious)

11. "U Ain't Goin' Nowhere" (feat. LaToiya Williams) (Produced with Mark Batson)

[edit] 50 Cent - Curtis06. "Come and Go"

14. "Fire" (feat. Young Buck & Nicole Scherzinger)

[edit] 2008[edit] Bishop Lamont - The Confessional19. "The Greatest Trick" (Produced with Denaun Porter)

[edit] Trick-Trick - The Villain09. "Hold On"

[edit] 2009[edit] Slim Thug - Boss of All Bosses02. "Bitch I'm Back" (feat. Devin the Dude) (Produced with Mr. Lee)

[edit] Eminem - Relapse01. "Dr. West" (Skit)

02. "3 a.m."

03. "My Mom"

04. "Insane"

Sample Credit: "Jock Box" by The Skinny Boys

05. "Bagpipes from Baghdad" (Produced with T. Lawrence)

06. "Hello" (Produced with Mark Batson)

07. "Tonya" (Skit)

08. "Same Song & Dance" (Produced with Dawaun Parker)

09. "We Made You" (Produced with Eminem & Doc Ish)

Sample Credit: "Hot Summer Nights" by Walter Egan

10. "Medicine Ball" (Produced with Mark Batson)

11. "Paul" (Skit)

12. "Stay Wide Awake"

13. "Old Time's Sake" (feat. Dr. Dre) (Produced with Mark Batson)

14. "Must Be The Gunja" (Produced with Mark Batson)

15. "Mr. Mathers" (Skit)

16. "Déjà Vu"

18. "Crack a Bottle" (feat. Dr. Dre & 50 Cent)

Sample Credit: "Mais dans ma lumière" by Mike Brant

19. "Steve Berman" (Skit)

20. "Underground"

[edit] Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… Pt. II18. "Catalina" (feat. Lyfe Jennings) (Produced with Mark Batson)

Sample Credit: "Rainy Dayz" by Raekwon

Sample Credit: "Dialogue and score from the film The Killer"

20. "About Me" (feat. Busta Rhymes) (Produced with Mark Batson)

50 Cent - Before I Self Destruct03. "Death to My Enemies" (Produced with Mark Batson)

05. "Psycho" (feat. Eminem) (Produced with Eminem)

Sample Credit: "The Age of Love" by Age of Love

15. "Ok, You're Right" (Produced with Mark Batson)

[edit] Eminem - Relapse: Refill02. "Hell Breaks Loose" (feat. Dr. Dre) (Produced with Mark Batson)

03. "Buffalo Bill" (Produced with Mark Batson)

05. "Taking My Ball"

06. "Music Box" (Produced with Dawaun Parker)

07. "Drop the Bomb on 'Em"

[edit] 2010[edit] Eminem - Recovery13. "So Bad"

18. "Ridaz" (iTunes deluxe edition bonus tracks)

Bishop Lamont - The Shawshank Redemption/Angola 307. "Rain" (feat. Liz Rodrigues)

21. "Change Is Gonna Come" (feat. Mike Anthony)

 

[illogics]

Anyone who says Dre has put out better work than Ye in the past 6 years is probably an old head....

Or someone who knows that Dre hasn't really been on the scene in the past 6 years as opposed to Kanye who's prolly the only legend/icon bred out of the 2000's so far. Hollow argument.

 

[HipHopFiend91]

ic loves to shit on Dre

Dre>>>Yeezy

i like kanye but dre is better imo

 

[KingJamal]

How many of those beats are GREAT seriously?

 

[Kame]

Since June 2006, Dre has produced

01. "Get You Some" (feat. Marsha Ambrosius & Q-Tip) (Produced with Mark Batson)
03. "How We Do It Over Here" (feat. Missy Elliot)
05. "Been Through The Storm" (feat. Stevie Wonder) (Additional production with Sha Money XL & Black Jeruz)
Sample Credit: "Everlasting Love" by Felix Cavaliere
06. "In the Ghetto" (feat. Rick James) (Additional production with DJ Green Lantern)
07. "Cocaina" (feat. Marsha Ambrosius) (Produced with Mark Batson)
09. "Goldmine" (feat. Raekwon) (Additional production with Erick Sermon)
11. "Don't Get Carried Away" (feat. Nas)
15. "Legend of the Fall Off's"
Sample Credit: "Do You Ever" by Return to Forever
[edit] Jay-Z - Kingdom Come05. "Lost One" (feat. Chrisette Michele) (Produced with Mark Batson)
07. "30 Something"
11. "Trouble" (Produced with Mark Batson)
13. "Minority Report" (feat. Ne-Yo)
Sample Credit: "Non ti scordar di me" by Luciano Pavarotti
[edit] Snoop Dogg - Tha Blue Carpet Treatment09. "Boss' Life" (feat. Akon) (Produced with Mark Batson)
Sample Credit: "If Tomorrow Never Comes" by The Controllers
Sample Credit: "Everybody Rise" by Busta Rhymes
12. "Round Here"
Sample Credit: "Thank You" by Dido
20. "Imagine" (feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo) (Produced with Mark Batson)
[edit] Shady Records - Eminem Presents: The Re-Up18. "Get Low" (Stat Quo)
[edit] Nas - Hip Hop Is Dead15. "Hustlers" (feat. The Game & Marsha Ambrosius)
[edit] 2007[edit] Young Buck - Buck the World08. "Hold On" (feat. 50 Cent) (Produced with Che Vicious)
11. "U Ain't Goin' Nowhere" (feat. LaToiya Williams) (Produced with Mark Batson)
[edit] 50 Cent - Curtis06. "Come and Go"
14. "Fire" (feat. Young Buck & Nicole Scherzinger)
[edit] 2008[edit] Bishop Lamont - The Confessional19. "The Greatest Trick" (Produced with Denaun Porter)
[edit] Trick-Trick - The Villain09. "Hold On"
[edit] 2009[edit] Slim Thug - Boss of All Bosses02. "Bitch I'm Back" (feat. Devin the Dude) (Produced with Mr. Lee)
[edit] Eminem - Relapse01. "Dr. West" (Skit)
02. "3 a.m."
03. "My Mom"
04. "Insane"
Sample Credit: "Jock Box" by The Skinny Boys
05. "Bagpipes from Baghdad" (Produced with T. Lawrence)
06. "Hello" (Produced with Mark Batson)
07. "Tonya" (Skit)
08. "Same Song & Dance" (Produced with Dawaun Parker)
09. "We Made You" (Produced with Eminem & Doc Ish)
Sample Credit: "Hot Summer Nights" by Walter Egan
10. "Medicine Ball" (Produced with Mark Batson)
11. "Paul" (Skit)
12. "Stay Wide Awake"
13. "Old Time's Sake" (feat. Dr. Dre) (Produced with Mark Batson)
14. "Must Be The Gunja" (Produced with Mark Batson)
15. "Mr. Mathers" (Skit)
16. "Déjà Vu"
18. "Crack a Bottle" (feat. Dr. Dre & 50 Cent)
Sample Credit: "Mais dans ma lumière" by Mike Brant
19. "Steve Berman" (Skit)
20. "Underground"
[edit] Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… Pt. II18. "Catalina" (feat. Lyfe Jennings) (Produced with Mark Batson)
Sample Credit: "Rainy Dayz" by Raekwon
Sample Credit: "Dialogue and score from the film The Killer"
20. "About Me" (feat. Busta Rhymes) (Produced with Mark Batson)

50 Cent - Before I Self Destruct03. "Death to My Enemies" (Produced with Mark Batson)
05. "Psycho" (feat. Eminem) (Produced with Eminem)
Sample Credit: "The Age of Love" by Age of Love
15. "Ok, You're Right" (Produced with Mark Batson)
[edit] Eminem - Relapse: Refill02. "Hell Breaks Loose" (feat. Dr. Dre) (Produced with Mark Batson)
03. "Buffalo Bill" (Produced with Mark Batson)
05. "Taking My Ball"
06. "Music Box" (Produced with Dawaun Parker)
07. "Drop the Bomb on 'Em"
[edit] 2010[edit] Eminem - Recovery13. "So Bad"
18. "Ridaz" (iTunes deluxe edition bonus tracks)
Bishop Lamont - The Shawshank Redemption/Angola 307. "Rain" (feat. Liz Rodrigues)
21. "Change Is Gonna Come" (feat. Mike Anthony)

Nothing there was as good as the shit Ye has put out and you know it... cause I know you know your shit

 

[Kame]

Or someone who knows that Dre hasn't really been on the scene in the past 6 years as opposed to Kanye who's prolly the only legend/icon bred out of the 2000's so far. Hollow argument.

Im not saying Ye >> Dre overall

Im saying Ye>>> Dre 04 to now... by miles actually

That's the argument this has turned into...

 

[KingJamal]

Find me a Dre beat from the last 6 years thats better than Robocop then agree with ya'll.

 

[illogics]

Im not saying Ye >> Dre overall

Im saying Ye>>> Dre 04 to now... by miles actually

That's the argument this has turned into...

Oh.....No doubt

 

[YamoleySensei]

Since June 2006, Dre has produced

01. "Get You Some" (feat. Marsha Ambrosius & Q-Tip) (Produced with Mark Batson)

03. "How We Do It Over Here" (feat. Missy Elliot)

05. "Been Through The Storm" (feat. Stevie Wonder) (Additional production with Sha Money XL & Black Jeruz)

Sample Credit: "Everlasting Love" by Felix Cavaliere

06. "In the Ghetto" (feat. Rick James) (Additional production with DJ Green Lantern)

07. "Cocaina" (feat. Marsha Ambrosius) (Produced with Mark Batson)

09. "Goldmine" (feat. Raekwon) (Additional production with Erick Sermon)

11. "Don't Get Carried Away" (feat. Nas)

15. "Legend of the Fall Off's"

Sample Credit: "Do You Ever" by Return to Forever

[edit] Jay-Z - Kingdom Come05. "Lost One" (feat. Chrisette Michele) (Produced with Mark Batson)

07. "30 Something"

11. "Trouble" (Produced with Mark Batson)

13. "Minority Report" (feat. Ne-Yo)

Sample Credit: "Non ti scordar di me" by Luciano Pavarotti

[edit] Snoop Dogg - Tha Blue Carpet Treatment09. "Boss' Life" (feat. Akon) (Produced with Mark Batson)

Sample Credit: "If Tomorrow Never Comes" by The Controllers

Sample Credit: "Everybody Rise" by Busta Rhymes

12. "Round Here"

Sample Credit: "Thank You" by Dido

20. "Imagine" (feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo) (Produced with Mark Batson)

[edit] Shady Records - Eminem Presents: The Re-Up18. "Get Low" (Stat Quo)

[edit] Nas - Hip Hop Is Dead15. "Hustlers" (feat. The Game & Marsha Ambrosius)

[edit] 2007[edit] Young Buck - Buck the World08. "Hold On" (feat. 50 Cent) (Produced with Che Vicious)

11. "U Ain't Goin' Nowhere" (feat. LaToiya Williams) (Produced with Mark Batson)

[edit] 50 Cent - Curtis06. "Come and Go"

14. "Fire" (feat. Young Buck & Nicole Scherzinger)

[edit] 2008[edit] Bishop Lamont - The Confessional19. "The Greatest Trick" (Produced with Denaun Porter)

[edit] Trick-Trick - The Villain09. "Hold On"

[edit] 2009[edit] Slim Thug - Boss of All Bosses02. "Bitch I'm Back" (feat. Devin the Dude) (Produced with Mr. Lee)

[edit] Eminem - Relapse01. "Dr. West" (Skit)

02. "3 a.m."

03. "My Mom"

04. "Insane"

Sample Credit: "Jock Box" by The Skinny Boys

05. "Bagpipes from Baghdad" (Produced with T. Lawrence)

06. "Hello" (Produced with Mark Batson)

07. "Tonya" (Skit)

08. "Same Song & Dance" (Produced with Dawaun Parker)

09. "We Made You" (Produced with Eminem & Doc Ish)

Sample Credit: "Hot Summer Nights" by Walter Egan

10. "Medicine Ball" (Produced with Mark Batson)

11. "Paul" (Skit)

12. "Stay Wide Awake"

13. "Old Time's Sake" (feat. Dr. Dre) (Produced with Mark Batson)

14. "Must Be The Gunja" (Produced with Mark Batson)

15. "Mr. Mathers" (Skit)

16. "Déjà Vu"

18. "Crack a Bottle" (feat. Dr. Dre & 50 Cent)

Sample Credit: "Mais dans ma lumière" by Mike Brant

19. "Steve Berman" (Skit)

20. "Underground"

[edit] Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… Pt. II18. "Catalina" (feat. Lyfe Jennings) (Produced with Mark Batson)

Sample Credit: "Rainy Dayz" by Raekwon

Sample Credit: "Dialogue and score from the film The Killer"

20. "About Me" (feat. Busta Rhymes) (Produced with Mark Batson)

50 Cent - Before I Self Destruct03. "Death to My Enemies" (Produced with Mark Batson)

05. "Psycho" (feat. Eminem) (Produced with Eminem)

Sample Credit: "The Age of Love" by Age of Love

15. "Ok, You're Right" (Produced with Mark Batson)

[edit] Eminem - Relapse: Refill02. "Hell Breaks Loose" (feat. Dr. Dre) (Produced with Mark Batson)

03. "Buffalo Bill" (Produced with Mark Batson)

05. "Taking My Ball"

06. "Music Box" (Produced with Dawaun Parker)

07. "Drop the Bomb on 'Em"

[edit] 2010[edit] Eminem - Recovery13. "So Bad"

18. "Ridaz" (iTunes deluxe edition bonus tracks)

Bishop Lamont - The Shawshank Redemption/Angola 307. "Rain" (feat. Liz Rodrigues)

21. "Change Is Gonna Come" (feat. Mike Anthony)

are you serious? Is that all gay ass Dre produced since '06? I refuse to believe that but if so, talk about a lazy motherfuckaa....and ain't you the same dude that called Dre "the James Cameron of Hip Hop".....LMAO!!!! I know Cameron has more than two Magnum Opuses under his belt...Dre is just a lazy, steroid taking chump that lusts for trannies....he's too busy doing that than trying to recreate a solid album....

 

[KingJamal]

Would someone confirm for me if Kanye produced Down and out or not???

 

[Kame]

I do prefer Ye's shit to Dre's period..... but thats a generational thing and I can't expect yall to understand that lol... Means a lot more to me when I was there to see it