Fact: A virgin is not what you were raised to think

[bless the child]

I am stunned at the logic people attempt to use over simple semantics.

"bthuwlah" - Googling this gets this defintion "Feminine passive participle of an unused root meaning to separate; a virgin (from her privacy); sometimes (by continuation) a bride; also (figuratively) a city or state .... maid, virgin."

It mentions VIRGIN twice!!!

"parthenos" - Googling this gets ... http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/3933.htm on which the quote provide occurs as well as the word virgin 7 TIMES!!!

Virgin definition .... "A person who has not experienced sexual intercourse." also "A chaste or unmarried woman; a maiden."

Chaste - 1. Morally pure in thought or conduct; decent and modest.

2.

a. Not having experienced sexual intercourse; virginal.

b. Abstaining from unlawful sexual intercourse.

c. Abstaining from all sexual intercourse; celibate.

3. Pure or simple in design or style; austere."

The word virgin today means someone with out sexual experience. It come from the Latin Virgos which mean sexually inexperienced women. You can not cite definition that use the term virgin and then claim the damn word does not mean virgin. For fuck sake!!

How are you going to try and use the word "virgo/virgin"when both Greek and Hebrew languages are older than Latin?????? How can these people be writing in a script and using words from that script if it doesnt even exist yet? In the English Bible the word they use is "virgin" but in the Hebrew text and Greek text they do NOT use the word virgin, they use the words I mentioned which does not mean virgin! How can it mean virgin if the word didnt even exist at the time they were written? When you make the parallels between Greek and Hebrew they both deal with a bride or unmarried woman in some shape or from. The reason why they say virgin is because they're giving you an english translation which has nothing to do with what it actually says in Greek or Hebrew. Like I said, how can they be using the word "virgo" or even have that as their root if Latin doesnt even exist yet??!!?

 

[janklow]

but in the Hebrew text and Greek text they do NOT use the word virgin, they use the words I mentioned which does not mean virgin!

then why is this thread about how the use of the word "virgin" is incorrect

 

[bless the child]

then why is this thread about how the use of the word "virgin" is incorrect

ask the thread starter...I dont think the thread starter was talking about the word "virgin"exactly. He was talking about the meaning of that word itself as it relates to the text.

 

[perspective@100]

So this is what goes on in here... leaving

 

[janklow]

...I dont think the thread starter was talking about the word "virgin"exactly. He was talking about the meaning of that word itself as it relates to the text.

seems like that would be more about the replacing of a word than the redefining of a word

 

[whar67]

How are you going to try and use the word "virgo/virgin"when both Greek and Hebrew languages are older than Latin?????? How can these people be writing in a script and using words from that script if it doesnt even exist yet? In the English Bible the word they use is "virgin" but in the Hebrew text and Greek text they do NOT use the word virgin, they use the words I mentioned which does not mean virgin! How can it mean virgin if the word didnt even exist at the time they were written? When you make the parallels between Greek and Hebrew they both deal with a bride or unmarried woman in some shape or from. The reason why they say virgin is because they're giving you an english translation which has nothing to do with what it actually says in Greek or Hebrew. Like I said, how can they be using the word "virgo" or even have that as their root if Latin doesnt even exist yet??!!?

I have to explain how definitions work!?!?!

Ok they list a word then describe what that word means.

So when they say the definition of the hebrew word is virgin then it means virgin. The fact that hebrew is older is immaterial. The word meant virgin then and now translated to english means virgin. Its not like there were no virgins running around before we invited the word.

 

[SoulRattler of Venom]

ask the thread starter...I dont think the thread starter was talking about the word "virgin"exactly. He was talking about the meaning of that word itself as it relates to the text.

You are correct sir. As it relates to the text, "virgin" does not properly identify with what Mary actually was.

 

[demandred]

I agree 100%, good thread.

I see after all this time off you still just randomly believe whatever people tell you....long as it contradicts the Status Quo

You are correct sir. As it relates to the text, "virgin" does not properly identify with what Mary actually was.

Soul.... are you serious?....

and bless why are you co-signing this obviously under researched topic.... this one is not salvageable