Excerpts from Prodigy's Book "My Infamous Life

[kweyork]

No because they also took more shots and said some slick shit about him during their shows and shit cuz Pac sent his homeboys to check what they was talkin' about. This was during his jail shit. Also Mobb Deep know what they were doin'. See Mobb Deep and Pac really had mutual niggas around so basically when Pac had his problems with them big timers from NY, Mobb Deep started to diss him. Shit isn't there like a picture of P and Pac from like early '93? P didnt have a problem then. But then when late 1994 hit that's when Mobb Deep all of a sudden started sayin' slick shit.

So think about it..that's why Mobb Deep probably went after 2pac.

I'm a big Mobb, 2pac, Biggie etc fan but some of you niggas are hilarious i swear. It's like y'all want every single thing to be Pac's fault.

Be specific nigga, P talks about the beef between him and pac all the time and they only started to beef after Pac went in on them for saying 'thug life we still living it'. Because pac had been in jail and was talking on some non violent peace shit, he took it personal when he got out. It was probably a subliminal diss at pac, 'while u softning up in jail we still livin that thug life that u once claimed' kinda shit that pac took very personally.

That was the reason behind including mobb deep in the beef from most reliable accounts.

 

[kweyork]

U sure homie? Cause i think P said "I only loved Tupac after his death, but man if we'd have bumped heads, you woulda been a mess"...i havent heard it in a long time so i mite be wrong.

I am pretty sure, se said 'it would have been a mess', if u read his book u would understood what he ment, because they pretty much get into brawls whenever they go out and leave a 'bloody mess' - it was typical for QB niggas to fight with razers and knifes, they are numerous episodes in the book when they slice niggas face open at parties.

So he was just speaking generally that both crews would have gotten into it and it would have been a mess.

 

[destro1]

How anyone can take P's word for anything is a joke, plus pac i was only talking about Biggie now everybody want to have a motherfucking opinion.... Course Mobb deep rode for the NY in the media created East vs West....they were not innocent in the whole thing.

 

[kweyork]

How anyone can take P's word for anything is a joke, plus pac i was only talking about Biggie now everybody want to have a motherfucking opinion.... Course Mobb deep rode for the NY in the media created East vs West....they were not innocent in the whole thing.

because the nigga doesn't have a reputation as a lier

 

[Llahsram]

huh? that wasnt a shout out pac was shittin on gay azz dre listen again lollll

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If you think Pac dissed Dre on this song than you need your fucking ears checked. Nobody and I mean nobody thought he was dissing Dre on that song except you.

 

[gee757]

lol i googled the lyrics tho LOL

dre produced that song ... i doubt pac dissed him on it

"You niggas made a mistake

you shoulda never put my rhymes with Dre

them Thug niggas have arrived and it's Judgement Day"

"D-R-E you got me heated

my words like a penatentary dick

hittin' bitches where it's most needed"

that second one is a possible diss but its doesnt seem like one in the context of pac flow right there

pac and dre did california luv in late 95 then the double disc came out in early 96

im not 100% sure but i coulda swore dre left well after the cd was already out

i guess this is a moot topic anyway. wiki has dre leaving death row in june of 96 tho

i take that bacc it wasnt a diss but when 2pac was on deathrow gay azz dre was n da studio wit pac like 2 timez thatz y pac made california love pt2 aka 2 LIVE & DIE N LA wit out GAY AZZ DRE! lol

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If you think Pac dissed Dre on this song than you nedd your fucking ears checked. Nobody and I mean nobody thought he was dissing Dre on that song except you.

lol wat eva even if he wasnt pac was still shittin on gay azz dre on otha trax...

 

[Llahsram]

lol i googled the lyrics tho LOL

dre produced that song ... i doubt pac dissed him on it

"You niggas made a mistake

you shoulda never put my rhymes with Dre

them Thug niggas have arrived and it's Judgement Day"

"D-R-E you got me heated

my words like a penatentary dick

hittin' bitches where it's most needed"

that second one is a possible diss but its doesnt seem like one in the context of pac flow right there

pac and dre did california luv in late 95 then the double disc came out in early 96

im not 100% sure but i coulda swore dre left well after the cd was already out

i guess this is a moot topic anyway. wiki has dre leaving death row in june of 96 tho

Dre left in April 96 and All Eyez on Me came out in Feb 96 he wasn't dissing Dre.

 

[UPTOWN]

Lol you is one funny ass negro....just because Big's mum and Frank Alexander said it doesnt mean it is the truth! C'mon son who the fuck cares about Pac's bodyguard anyway fuck a Frank Alexander..that nigga been lyin and changin his stories ever since Pac passed

Ur the one that seems to be confused talkin about skits and diss songs on all eyes on me that neva existed..and i dont even think u heard the makaveli album either. There were 3 songs on the album where he went at folks...
He went at Jay and Mobb Deep on Bomb First
Nas , Puff and the guys that robbed him on Against all odds and Dre on the last verse of Toss it Up...im not gonna include that funny one liner about Dre on To live and die in La! U makin it sound like that nigga's whole album was full of disses.

And plus u need to learn how to read fam i never said they (Big and Puff) had somethin to do with the robbery...all i said was Big and Puff wasnt as innocent as most make it out to be...
Big and Puff knew that Pac was gonna get robbed...Robbed....cause thats all it was meant to be at first...
a robbery...them fools wanted their jewelry back! Pac refused and tried to go for his shit and got clapped for that

Before pac went to jail he was askin niggas what happend but everyone in New York was like naaaw b we didnt shit but as soon as Pac got locked up everyone all of a sudden knew what went down at quads

Puff a sneaky muthafucka and he knew exactly what he was doin when he released Who shot ya! That song was what really made shit get outta control and the rest is history

so someone from pacs camp and bigs side say the same thing even tho they never met each other yet theres just no way it can be true right ???

who cares if i said bomb first was on aeom ... nothing was said on makaveli that wasnt said in interviews etc during the time of aeom. so all ur saying here is "he didnt say on the album he said it to the press etc" so what?? the point is he said it LOL

youre contradicting yourself. youre saying big and puff had nothing to do with it but ur saying they knew he was gonna get robbed. which one is it??

the only reason he got robbed is because he declined to do business with those who robbed him. and he only got shot because he went for his gun

and you have no clue on the who's and whens my friend. stretch was the link between pac and brooklyn at that time. when pac was saying that niggas was saying they didnt know who robbed him, he was talking about his convos with the guys who robbed him LOL!!! wtf you think they were gonna say "yeah we robbed you"

stretch was the reason they knew exactly where pac was gonna be not to mention lil shawn. both of them being affiliated with the cats who actually set up the robbery is how they pulled it off. biggie and puff lil cease etc were just there. they just so happened to be there. biggie and lil shawn werent even in the same session lil shawn wasnt even on bad boy LOL his only affiliation with puff was at uptown records and some ghost writing for bad boy, the only reason lil shawn got a feature that day with pac is because thats the only thing pac agreed to do with those cats which they were gonna have to pay pac to do. they were trying to get in the music game but their only artist WAS lil shawn LOL. this is why they were at the same studio because while at uptown records thats the studio they used (hence andre harrell being there). they knew all the engineers etc already so its not a miracle that they would both be using it LOL we all know the story of puff leaving uptown so i dont have to say anymore. how many times have your heard big say "i told pac not to fool with the cats he was fooling with" "i told pac THAT I DONT FOOL WITH THEM DUDES EXCEPT STRETCH" ???

biggie and various others told pac before he went to jail who robbed him as soon as word got around. of course they didnt know at first because they didnt know he would get robbed. after being in jail is what confirmed to pac that it wasnt big. why do you think they were trying to hang wit pac the day he caught the rape charge??? because they seen pac as a way to come up

i know the whole shit inside out my friend the only thing that is truly unknown is who killed pac, not who robbed him LOL but most likely it was the same cats

 

[UPTOWN]

I'm just goin by Pac's story, Jimmy Rosmand story, King Tuts story, Lil Cease story and Lil Shawn story, even P's story, police records (facts), court case (facts) and other shit the likes of Hench was involved in i.e robbing jayz, steve stoute, puffy and the attempted hit on 50cent etc....

Basically Biggy introduced Hatian to Pac (biggy also later warned him about the dude

LOL wrong LOL!!! stretch intro duced pac to each and every brooklyn cat involved in the whole story at the end of the day. stretch is how pac met big LOL haitian and henchmen were doing street shit with stretch LOL that was the connection LOL!!

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..puff, biggy, money e bags, stretch and even pac were scared of Haitian Jack, this nigga was a real gangsta)

not really but this is neither here nor there.

....somehow Hench started rolling with Pac and became his unofficial manager, then the rape incident happened, Hatian did a plea deal and as we know Pac later got thrown in jail.

hold up tho LOL before you finish henchman barely even knew pac LOL he was never pacs unofficial manager because pac had a real manager. dude ... pac was doing movies etc and thug life and SFMN had him doing mad shows etc why would he need some cat he never met who just got outta jail to manage him ??? remember pac saying he would bring biggie out when doing i get around at shows etc?? they were TRYING to do business with pac. they were hoping that they could "piggy back" off of pac to a certain extent and come up on some legit shit. they were cool wit stretch and stretch was pacs man so pac was the biggest star they had access to. thats why pac hung wit them niggas that night. im not 100% but i will try and dig it up but pac explained the whole evening he caught the rape charge. he was only hangin with them off of the strength of stretch LOL

Pac felt betrayed that Haitian was dickin him and fucked up by mentioning Haitian Jack (not by name) being a extortionist in the New York Post, then he got shot up ..While Pac was locked up Stretch, BIG and Puff were still rollin with Haitian Jack, so thats why he cut them niggas out of his life.

stretch was the only one hangin with haitian jack LOL and as i said strech was cool with big too. stretch wasnt even cool wit puff like that LOL. stretch is the only one pac cut off cause never fucked wit any of them niggas too heavy anyway LOL

Some people say BIG and Puff thought Haitian was only goin to beat Pac up and then it got out of hand, others say they knew Pac was gonna get wacked, but obviously they themselves were shook of Haitian as was every rapper so would keep quiet...nobody will really know about what big and puff knew and too what extent.

are you talking about pacs death or the robbery ??? if haitian jack would have been there personally at quad the day of the robbery, pac and or stretch would have recognized him right off the back LOL thats obvious shit right there LOL

Either way Pac got shot up for taking gifts and mentioning Haitian Jack in the New York Post....the only reason Jimmy Rosmond had anything to do with it was because he was Haitians hommie and also he felt Pac had over charged him for the Lil Shawn song.

this is true ... they didnt really give pac shit for real but they were going out there way to pop bottles etc wit him. pac didnt mention haitian by name so haitian didnt care about that tho. he already had to take a plea regardless

Pac's big mistake was lettin his mouth run wild to the New York Post....he let his anger creep in....so the total opposite happened to what P is saying, Pac n actual fact mentioned Haitian in the New York Post (not by name) and that shit got Haitian mad.

pac didnt have to name haitian because haitian had to plea regardless. he was part of the case and his name was on the docket either way. pac saying haitian was extorting people made no difference either because he wasnt charged with that. pac didnt do anything wrong. this was not the first time them cats were turned down tryin to do legit business and turned around and robbed the person that turned them down. this is why biggie told pac not to fuck with them

Pac however was always right about Haitian Jack, who turned out to be a rat for the NYPD Elite Intelligence Division...so thats one of the reasons why i believe somewhat of Pacs story because it came true

 

[thesynthesis]

real nigga shit - niggas mad wierd yall.

Niggas acting like P hates pac. If yall read the book or even listen to P's interview - P has mad love Pac, smh at some of yall niggas

I feel you, P only saying what E Money Bags told him, so niggas can,t be mad at P, however he got a few of his facts mixed up, which again is not his fault, thats what he was told, even if it were a bunch of lies.

We know E Money Bags wasnt tight with Pac, we however know Stretch was one of Pacs closet roaddawgs, but after he got shot up Pac cut Stretch out of his life because he felt them niggas were in on it and they were still rollin with Haitian Jack. So whatever E Money Bags told P was from a salty point of view because Pac was dissin his man Stretch. Its like asking Memphis Bleek to talk good of Bean Sigel after the Jay drama.

 

[DanknDrank]

so someone from pacs camp and bigs side say the same thing even tho they never met each other yet theres just no way it can be true right ???

who cares if i said bomb first was on aeom ... nothing was said on makaveli that wasnt said in interviews etc during the time of aeom. so all ur saying here is "he didnt say on the album he said it to the press etc" so what?? the point is he said it LOL

youre contradicting yourself. youre saying big and puff had nothing to do with it but ur saying they knew he was gonna get robbed. which one is it??

the only reason he got robbed is because he declined to do business with those who robbed him. and he only got shot because he went for his gun

and you have no clue on the who's and whens my friend. stretch was the link between pac and brooklyn at that time. when pac was saying that niggas was saying they didnt know who robbed him, he was talking about his convos with the guys who robbed him LOL!!! wtf you think they were gonna say "yeah we robbed you"

stretch was the reason they knew exactly where pac was gonna be not to mention lil shawn. both of them being affiliated with the cats who actually set up the robbery is how they pulled it off. biggie and puff lil cease etc were just there. they just so happened to be there. biggie and lil shawn werent even in the same session lil shawn wasnt even on bad boy LOL his only affiliation with puff was at uptown records, the only reason lil shawn got a feature that day with pac is because thats the only thing pac agreed to do with those cats which they were gonna have to pay pac to do. they were trying to get in the music game but their only artist WAS lil shawn LOL. this is why they were at the same studio because while at uptown records thats the studio they used (hence andre harrell being there). they knew all the engineers etc already so its not a miracle that they would both be using it LOL we all know the story of puff leaving uptown so i dont have to say anymore. how many times have your heard big say "i told pac not to fool with the cats he was fooling with" "i told pac THAT I DONT FOOL WITH THEM DUDES EXCEPT STRETCH" ???

biggie and various others told pac before he went to jail who robbed him as soon as word got around. of course they didnt know at first because they didnt know he would get robbed. after being in jail is what confirmed to pac that it wasnt big. why do you think they were trying to hang wit pac the day he caught the rape charge??? because they seen pac as a way to come up

i know the whole shit inside out my friend the only thing that is truly unknown is who killed pac, not who robbed him LOL but most likely it was the same cats

lmao a whole article of nothing.....again.....smh why bother debating with this fake ANALyst

 

[thesynthesis]

ill finish reading this but it starts off mad wrong LOL

what did i get mad wrong? i can back most of what i said

the only things i speculated about was how much BIG and Puff really knew....

Did Haitian Jack take a 6 month plea bargin and rat on Pac? Yes

Was Haitian Jack robbing and extorting rappers in the game? Yes

Was BIG, Stretch, Puff E Money Bags, etc..still rollin with Haitian jack after Pac got shot up? Yes

Was Haitian Jack acting like Pacs unofficial manager (sweetening up) prior to the rape incident? Yes

Did Hatian Jack buy Pac gifts to keep him sweet? Yes

Was Haitian Jack down with BMF? Yes

Did Haitian Jack get mad at Pac talking about him in the New York Post? Yes

Did Haitian Jack work as a informant for NYPD Elite Intelligence Division? Yes

Was Haitain Jack deported after ratting on his close hommie King Tut? Yes

This Nigga Haitian jacked robbed some of ur fav rappers

 

[thesynthesis]

LOL wrong LOL!!! stretch intro duced pac to each and every brooklyn cat involved in the whole story at the end of the day. stretch is how pac met big LOL haitian and henchmen were doing street shit with stretch LOL that was the connection LOL!!

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not really but this is neither here nor there.

hold up tho LOL before you finish henchman barely even knew pac LOL he was never pacs unofficial manager because pac had a real manager. dude ... pac was doing movies etc and thug life had him doing mad shows etc why would he need some cat he never met who just got outta jail to manage him ??? they were TRYING to do business with pac. they were hoping that they could "piggy back" off of pac to a certain extent and come up on some legit shit. they were cool wit stretch and stretch was pacs man so pac was the biggest star they had access to. thats why pac hung wit them niggas that night. im not 100% but i will try and dig it up but pac explain the whole evening he caught the rape charge. he was only hangin with them off of the strength of stretch LOL

I never said Hench knew Pac like that, the only reason Hench knew Pac was from his dealings with Haitian Jack and King Tut....Hench wanted Pac to drop some verses for his artist Lil Shawn, Pac asked for money, which was disrespectful cuz Haitian and them had brough Pac jewels, weed and women over the course of a year. When he went to the studio that day, Pac was under the illusion he'd be gettn paid $7000..

Hench was real close to both Tut and Haitian, they were like brothers....Pac always felt King Tut was the one who shot him.

Haitian took a plea and gave evidence against Pac. At the time pac was hated by the police, he'd got away with shooting two cops, also won a case for police brutality, they charged him with 14 offenses and wanted to pin something concrete on him. Pac was spot on with his analysis of Haitian. Both did the same crime, different trials and one got off, which never made sense....until years later

And to act like niggas weren't scared of Haitian is a joke, all them rappers were scared of him, BIG (who warned Pac about them), Jay (who got robbed by them), Puff ( who was being extorted by BMF)..these niggas were real life gangstas, so rappers looked up to them. After Pac stopped rolling with Hatian, that nigga started clinging ont to Puff and BIG, i guess he was offering Badboy some protection.

Pacs big mistake was not showing them niggas respect and asking for money, taking gifts and then talkin to the New York Post...

 

[UPTOWN]

I never said Hench knew Pac like that, the only reason Hench knew Pac was from his dealings with Haitian Jack and King Tut....Hench wanted Pac to drop some verses for his artist Lil Shawn, Pac asked for money, which was disrespectful cuz Haitian and them had brough Pac jewels, weed and women over the course of a year. When he went to the studio that day, Pac was under the illusion he'd be gettn paid $7000..

Hench was real close to both Tut and Haitian, they were like brothers....Pac always felt King Tut was the one who shot him.

Haitian took a plea and gave evidence against Pac. At the time pac was hated by the police, he'd got away with shooting two cops, also won a case for police brutality, they charged him with 14 offenses and wanted to pin something concrete on him. Pac was spot on with his analysis of Haitian. Both did the same crime, different trials and one got off, which never made sense....until years later

And to act like niggas weren't scared of Haitian is a joke, all them rappers were scared of him, BIG (who warned Pac about them), Jay (who got robbed by them), Puff ( who was being extorted by BMF)..these niggas were real life gangstas, so rappers looked up to them. After Pac stopped rolling with Hatian, that nigga started clinging ont to Puff and BIG, i guess he was offering Badboy some protection.

Pacs big mistake was not showing them niggas respect and asking for money, taking gifts and then talkin to the New York Post...

thats not a bad analysis but its a little off. there are some key connections that you have mixed up but oh well. at the end of the day its not like they are our peoples to care that much about it. its in the past now

 

[thecomebacklegend]

smh at niggas debating with a nigga who lifetime accomplishments is being a "vet" on a hiphop message board

 

[TRILLip Brooks]

damn some of you niggas are typing your own book

 

[icame4wo]

damn some of you niggas are typing your own book

haha good one!

is this information and pac and emoney bags relationship coming from queens reign supreme book?

thanks for this thread.

 

[diwinoy]

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[b@squ1@t redux]

im the only one that really knows what happened

 

[dalyricalbandit]

some of u folks should be detectives cause ya niggas solving shit these abc boys aint