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kingblaze84;7684080 said:alissowack;7683911 said:kingblaze84;7683217 said:alissowack;7681737 said:kingblaze84;7679804 said:DoUwant2go2Heaven?;7679410 said:And_So_It_Burns;7677711 said:DoUwant2go2Heaven?;7672230 said:1. Yes, Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God. Before God became flesh, He always existed as a Spirit for God is Spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth. Therefore Jesus Christ is the creator of all things! Yes, for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist!
Why did God create polio?
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;7672230 said:2. Right, so I guess every ancient culture on planet earth separated by THOUSANDS of miles, seas, oceans, mountains, lakes, rivers, and continents all made up a story about a flood destroying all of humanity including all land and air animals except for a select few that were preserved on a boat?
Well it wasn't every ancient culture and most weren't separated by oceans or even seas. But the story is absurd and only can be believed for religious reasons.
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;7672230 said:3. The solar system wasn't designed but yet everything is just right for life to flourish on this planet called earth?
Interesting....
99% of all life to ever exist is now extinct. Please explain how this is considered flourishing.
1. All sickness and disease finds it roots in the garden of Eden, not with God. Our first parents, Adam and Eve, rebelled against God through disobedience to His command. The result of their initial action has now worked itself out with the passage of time. Polio just happens to be one of the fruits of a sin sick world.
But thanks be to God that the story doesn't end with sin, but with salvation! The Lord Jesus Christ, the last Adam, came to fix what the first Adam messed up. And if you come to Him by faith, trusting not only with an intellectual consent, but by believing in your heart that Jesus Christ is who He says He is and that He did what He said He did, you will be saved!
And this is the guarantee:
"And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day." John 6:39-40
So the question is, do you want Jesus? That is the question! Do you want peace with God? That is the question! Do you want every tear wiped away? That is the question! Do you want a tomorrow with no more sorrows? That is the question! Do you want to inherit ALL things? That is the question!
2. Google is your friend. But hey what are friends for?
http://history-world.org/floods.htm
here is an excerpt from just one of the "hits" I got:
"Legends of a flood can be found in the folklore of such diverse places as the Middle East, India, China, Australia, southern Asia, the islands of the Pacific, Europe, and the Americas. But the best-known flood legend--that on which the story of Noah is based--had its origins among the peoples of ancient Mesopotamia in the Tigris-Euphrates river valley. "
Every corner of the globe is covered with some type of ancient flood story. Amen.
3. Well your typing to me. Amen.
You believe the god we have is perfect right? So why can't your perfect god just completely forgive what Adam and Eve did and just *poof* wipe out all harmful bacteria and diseases so children in nations all over the world don't get so fucking sick just by drinking the water? If your god is "perfect", he's a very, very lazy being.
And as you may know by now, humans are born VERY flawed. So if humans were created flawed, then technically, your god should be mad at himself for fucking up.
Adam and Eve, according to the Bible, needed to understand the weight of their decision; to know that there is a consequence for their action. I don't think we truly appreciate choice because we think it should be without responsibility; that if I make the choice to lie, cheat, steal...whatever, I shouldn't have to worry about my decisions having any negative impact towards others or myself. I mean...Adam and Eve had a chance at perfection. They didn't have to worry about sin and death, but they lost it at the expense of making a choice to disobey.
Okay so why are CURRENT humans still suffering from all that? If the Bible god is as loving and caring as DOU claims, then why is it still holding a grudge from all those years ago? Any god that holds a grudge for 2000 years plus is nothing less than an asshole and a prick. I'm not afraid to say these things because obviously, I don't believe in your god. I'm a pantheist, so I'm not atheist, but the Bible god doesn't make any sense based on what you just said. Adam and Eve are the reasons humans are STILL dealing with bad water issues and viruses in 2015? Really tho?
With that kind of asshole attitude from your god, it's no wonder Adam and Eve ate that fucking apple.
Because the decision that Adam and Eve made affected everybody; to subject the fate of mankind to a selfish decision to eat from the tree. The curse is hereditary.
Just so you know, getting rid of suffering is not going to get rid of sin. Sin would still need to be dealt with even if we didn't have to endure pain. There are people who have been privileged to not endure the hard times of life and yet, like the rich young ruler, will have to answer to God about sin.
But wait a minute, I thought the Bible god forgave everybody. If it really did as you claim, then it makes zero sense for the ancestors of Adam and Eve to still suffer needlessly from all kinds of random issues and problems. You say the curse is hereditary but it further proves that this Bible god you speak of never really forgave anybody. If there was no such thing as incurable diseases, poverty (caused by genetically programmed greedy humans and outside events), and all kinds of random BS, then you would have a great argument. But for your Bible god to "forgive" us but still subject us to hereditary curses makes zero sense. Either your god forgave us or he didn't.
And yes, getting rid of suffering won't get rid of sin, we can all acknowledge that. But humans ARE BORN TO SIN. We are BORN FLAWED. And if god made us, then it MADE us with these genetic flaws, any half assed god could have seen that coming. You don't lock a baby up in jail for throwing milk at you, why? Because that's what babies do. It's foolish to be so angry at humans for sinning when WE WERE BORN TO "sin", humans were born genetically flawed emotionally and the rest, so to hold a grudge like a 10 year old makes the Bible god look immature and borderline crazy. In fact, the Bible god to many people does seem crazy lol.
God has forgiven everybody through the work of Jesus. You seem to associate sin with some moral mishap when it is more than that. Sin is what makes us God's Enemies and we are His. We want nothing to do with God. If you ever read the Bible through you will see that even in prosperity; even when God seem to bless His People, they were never satisfied so the issue is not with suffering. It's trusting God with our lives and sin won't let us do that willingly.