Eminem is hip-hops biggest Icon of all time.

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LOL @ "The Eminem Show" being critically rated higher than "The Marshall Mathers LP" which won more awards, had Bigger 1st week sales, they are neck and neck on total sales also. Actually most Eminem fans consider his 1st two albums his best as well as most hip hop fans. "TES" was a dope album but it's not Classic as most fans feel the production was not on the level of "MMLP". Eminem is one of Hip Hop's biggest Icons for sure but he is not "THE" Icon cause other rap Icons are bigger. Sales have never been a determining factor amongst Hip Hop heads, sorry. Tupac, Biggie, Jay Z and even Dr. Dre himself are Bigger Icons to Hip Hop. Run DMC, LL Cool J, Premo, I can keep going. Eminem made history as far as impact but Icon wise he's far from the Biggest. Also Shady Team, your wrong, the Corny/Shock Rap Eminem has sold the most:

Crazy, Comical Em

SSLP - 4x Platinum
MMLP - 10x Platinum
E - 5x Platinum
Rel - 2x Platinum

Deep Eminem

TES - 10x Platinum
Rec - 4x Platinum
8 Mile sdtk - 4x Platinum

More fans have responded to crazy Em. As far as his singles, "Stan" is probably his most popular song amongst Hip Hop Heads and that did not go "#1". Yes "Lose Yourself" is up there, "Not Afraid and Love the way you lie" are both POP records and are not loved by many true rap fans as they feel Em went way commercial on those. More Hip Hop fans have responded to Crazy Em. Yes I agree that the EP isn't great but it's way more lyrical than "Recovery" which was the most POP sounding Em album of his career. Also your wrong, Eminem isn't even a Top 20 Selling artist in history. There have been tons of artist that have sold WAY more Worldwide than Eminem, TONS. Barry White has sold more records than Eminem, Backstreet Boys (The boy band he likes to diss) has sold more records than him, lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists
 
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Bigavelli;2784518 said:
You do realize Recovery is 1 of the highest selling Albums in recent times

It came out last year and has already sold close to 4 Million with Singles that reached number 1 went straight to number 1 from the Album

You do realize every Anger Managment Tour Eminem has done had Stadiums that sold out crowds of 80-100K not just in America but Europe too

Do you realize how many followers Eminem has on Twitter and Facebook?

smh of course recovery sold alot this is a bs pop album not no hiphop album gtfohwtbs

pop sells more than hiphop especially cheesy type songs with rhianna on the hook
 
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You do realize The Slim Shady LP and THe Marshall Mathers LP had some of Eminem's deepest and emotional Songs like 'Rock Bottom'

The fact is The Eminem Show is his highest selling Album

Recovery has out sold The Slim Shady LP which came out 12 years ago and has also out sold Relapse and is going to out sell Encore

You do realize Encore had just as many deep Song's like Mockingbird as much as the Shock Value like Just Lose It

Fact remains Not Afraid, Lose Yourself etc reached number 1 not the Shock Value Singles
 
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[video=youtube;Pl4drfStGoM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl4drfStGoM[/video]

even this song>>>>>>>>>>>>> recovery

the hook kinda corny but its aiight
 
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TimroD;2785094 said:
[video=youtube;Pl4drfStGoM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl4drfStGoM[/video]

even this song>>>>>>>>>>>>> recovery

the hook kinda corny but its aiight

That wasn't even the best Song on Relapse this was

[video=youtube;lgT1AidzRWM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgT1AidzRWM[/video]

Probably the best Hook i ever heard and the best Produced track on Relapse with uplifting Lyrics and just an inspiring Song from the message to the Hook
 
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Bigavelli;2785192 said:
That wasn't even the best Song on Relapse this was

[video=youtube;lgT1AidzRWM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgT1AidzRWM[/video]

Probably the best Hook i ever heard and the best Produced track on Relapse with uplifting Lyrics and just an inspiring Song from the message to the Hook

Em Beats are garbage that beat and hook is fucking terrible em should not be singing.

And both yall wrong neither song were the best on Relapse... these two were....

[video=youtube;iaCyEi_xMsE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iaCyEi_xMsE#at=11[/video]

[video=youtube;Qzqn0ZOljEM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzqn0ZOljEM[/video]
 
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nujerz84;2785197 said:
Em Beats are garbage that beat and hook is fucking terrible em should not be singing.

You got a different taste to most Eminem fans

You a fake Eminem fan
 
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njolinjo;2784101 said:
Although my fav hiphop artist of all time is BIG, there is no denying that Eminem is this genres version of Sting/Rollingstones/Beatles etc. The guy is bigger than Pac, bigger than Jay, Nas and BIG himself. The numbers this man puts up regardless of the hate he receives from the community (although Im convinced its only internet hate) is incredible.

Nonsense

the WORLD is bigger than EUROPE

Pac is the highest selling rapper in the US

Pac is far bigger in places like Africa, places like India, places where countries are war torn and genocide, poverty..large part of the world

Pac is close to Em in Europe, not much separates them

BLACKS BROWN FOLK out number white people in this world.....just because poor SA's cant buy the albums from ur local music store doesnt mean they dont bump them

even nas is bigger in SA than Em
 
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nujerz84;2785197 said:
Em Beats are garbage that beat and hook is fucking terrible em should not be singing.

cosing this beautiful track is gay as fucc take that shit outta here

smh hiphop discussions with gurlz or gays make no sense fucc that shit
 
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Bigavelli;2785212 said:
You got a different taste to most Eminem fans

You a fake Eminem fan

[video=youtube;iaCyEi_xMsE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iaCyEi_xMsE#at=11[/video]

[video=youtube;Qzqn0ZOljEM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzqn0ZOljEM[/video]

^^^^^ THese two songs shit on Beautiful speaking on real shit.....not shock rap as you say....

LMAO at some Paki UK whore calling me a fake Em fan.... I been up on the dude before you even knew who he was...
 
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TimroD;2785222 said:
cosing this beautiful track is gay as fucc take that shit outta here
smh hiphop discussions with gurlz or gays make no sense fucc that shit

lmao true dat......
 
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it's these outlandish opinions that turn people off from certain artists. why cant y'all just like eminem without having to boost him up to some ridiculous level.
 
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jamacia;2785247 said:
it's these outlandish opinions that turn people off from certain artists. why cant y'all just like eminem without having to boost him up to some ridiculous level.

Lets be real everyone does it...
 
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nujerz84;2785237 said:
[video=youtube;iaCyEi_xMsE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iaCyEi_xMsE#at=11[/video]

[video=youtube;Qzqn0ZOljEM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzqn0ZOljEM[/video]

^^^^^ THese two songs shit on Beautiful speaking on real shit.....not shock rap as you say....

LMAO at some Paki UK whore calling me a fake Em fan.... I been up on the dude before you even knew who he was...

Proves how sad you are that you gotta resort to racism

Who are you tomake racist comments though? you a damn Spic

Border hopping Wet Back go eat a taco and mow a lawn Gonzalez
 
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If Em is a icon than so is Will I Am/Black Eyed Peas

Beyonce is bigger and more known in every corner of the world than Eminem.

B can outsell full venues in every part of the world, places where rap music dont even have a big market, places em has never been because he wud be unknown
 
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Bigavelli;2785269 said:
Proves how sad you are that you gotta resort to racism

Who are you tomake racist comments though? you a damn Spic

Border hopping Wet Back go eat a taco and mow a lawn Gonzalez

LMAO....U mad...aint no Mexi cans where Im at ...
 
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nujerz84;2785254 said:
Lets be real everyone does it...

yea that's why i said why cant we just like an artist. only a stan says shit like eminem is the greatest hip hop icon.
 
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nujerz84;2785254 said:
Lets be real everyone does it...

Most fans will prop who they like over others with some bias attached. But these damn Polar Bears take this EM shit to psychotic levels. They want this mediocre Polar Bear to be the Start, Middle and Ending of everything Hip Hop. They cannot just like this dude. He has to be better then, the Blacks, Latinos, Pioneers, Legends and Creators of Hip Hop. Anything short of this is called hate. The Polar Bear supremacy complex is unbelievable.
 
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Bigavelli;2785269 said:
Proves how sad you are that you gotta resort to racism

Who are you tomake racist comments though? you a damn Spic

Border hopping Wet Back go eat a taco and mow a lawn Gonzalez

Lol............

Why do you keep making these dumb ass aliases?
 
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This thread is poor for so many reasons. How can one be the biggest Icon in hip hop when hip hop stations don't even play his music? Also, comparing any rapper's iconic status to the Beatles is flat out stupid.
 
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