Eli > Peyton ?

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Big Ben's d like Eli's has been overrated too

They got absolutely TORCHED by Kurt warner and gave up the LEAD with 3 mins left.

And who had to save them with an all time clutch game winning drive?

Big Ben
 
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Mvpbrodie93;4081063 said:
Big Ben's d like Eli's has been overrated too

They got absolutely TORCHED by Kurt warner and gave up the LEAD with 3 mins left.

And who had to save them with an all time clutch game winning drive?

Big Ben

Fuck Big Ben....
 
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Some of the reasons I have seen on why Brady wins so much....So Brady wins because of Pats D.. because of coach Belicheck .. because of Vintetari .... because he had Moss... because of the system he is in..... should i continue?
 
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blazini;4081117 said:
Some of the reasons I have seen on why Brady wins so much....So Brady wins because of Pats D.. because of coach Belicheck .. because of Vintetari .... because he had Moss... because of the system he is in..... should i continue?

Would never hear that from me, i like Brady..Always said he was top 5 possibly top 3 all time...Anybody who thinks otherwise "don't know shit about football"*Mayweather voice*....But that don't change the fact that Eli got Brady's soul in his back pocket haha!
 
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Eli is much better than people will ever give him credit for, but he's not better than Peyton Manning...and he never will be...fact of the matter is the Giants teams have been better than the teams Peyton has had with the Colts...the mere fact that the Colts almost went 1-16 w/ the loss of one player on offense yet I doubt anyone thinks the Giants go near winless w/o Eli...
 
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blackrain;4081153 said:
Eli is much better than people will ever give him credit for, but he's not better than Peyton Manning...and he never will be...fact of the matter is the Giants teams have been better than the teams Peyton has had with the Colts...the mere fact that the Colts almost went 1-16 w/ the loss of one player on offense yet I doubt anyone thinks the Giants go near winless w/o Eli...

We wouldn't go winless but we would be like 4-12...
 
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Wow a guy misses a season due to injury and y'all just shit on him and forget everything.

I like Eli and respect him to the fullest but, Peyton got more wins, more passing yardage, better completion percentage, more playoff wins, same amount of super bowls.

So what we talking bout?
 
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ImParallel;4081320 said:
Whatever that no name receiver name is...guy that caught the ball on his helmet then wrote a book about it...where's he at now? Eli wouldn't even be mentioned without him making that play for him.

So Eli didn't escape the sack and get the pass off?? ok
 
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blackrain;4081153 said:
Eli is much better than people will ever give him credit for, but he's not better than Peyton Manning...and he never will be...fact of the matter is the Giants teams have been better than the teams Peyton has had with the Colts...the mere fact that the Colts almost went 1-16 w/ the loss of one player on offense yet I doubt anyone thinks the Giants go near winless w/o Eli...

Eli has never played on a team as good as the 2003-2007 colts teams. They were loaded especially on offense

Plus the colts had fallen off, they were gonna be average THIS year with Peyton.

Take Eli off THIS giants team and they're 2 maybe 3 win squad
 
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biggar;4081293 said:
Wow a guy misses a season due to injury and y'all just shit on him and forget everything.

I like Eli and respect him to the fullest but, Peyton got more wins, more passing yardage, better completion percentage, more playoff wins, same amount of super bowls.

So what we talking bout?

more chokes in big games
 
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Mvpbrodie93;4081344 said:
Eli has never played on a team as good as the 2003-2007 colts teams. They were loaded especially on offense

Plus the colts had fallen off, they were gonna be average THIS year with Peyton.

Take Eli off THIS giants team and they're 2 maybe 3 win squad

seriously doubt that with the defense and run game the giants have.....
 
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vageneral08;4081483 said:
seriously doubt that with the defense and run game the giants have.....

False, our defense played like shit for 14 or 15 weeks this year, we wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs without Eli..
 
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And as was already said our run game, mainly because of run blocking has been non existent...That's how you know niggas don't watch the games...Niggas need to stop commenting on teams they don't know shit about, it makes you look stupid..
 
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FlyFreeCt;4081024 said:
Why niggas be hatin on Eli for having a defense??? Bottom line is he still carves up defenses consistently and wins games late for us, FACT...no debatin....You still need defense to win championships.....That sorry ass nigga Big Ben has had BETTER defenses than us since coming into the league and has been carried by them for a long time, but people say he's "Elite"....GTFOH wit that credit snatchin shit, Eli is that nigga point blank...Stop wit the bullshit excuses....Everybody needs a defense to win championships...smh niggas don't know shit..

It's not the hate bruh....it's true what most of these dudes are talking about even when giants defense had shitty moments it was still better than the colts defense no secondary, not a good blitzing defense all we have has two great pass rushers (freeney, mathis) and the colts defense stay in the low rankings between 25-32 not a good look but with peyton they're still considered an elite team I'm not taking nothing away from eli but he has an advantage over peyton as far as defense goes
 
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KeepOnPushing;4081596 said:
Both have been garbage majority of the regular season what are u talking about??

I'm talking about when it matters most they've came thru.....when they needed to win to clinch a playoff spot both the running and defense did their job so what are you talking about?
 
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Mvpbrodie93;4081344 said:
Eli has never played on a team as good as the 2003-2007 colts teams. They were loaded especially on offense

Plus the colts had fallen off, they were gonna be average THIS year with Peyton.

Take Eli off THIS giants team and they're 2 maybe 3 win squad

that's it just offense....you still forget the defense was still trash thru those years
 
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Mvpbrodie93;4081344 said:
Take Eli off THIS giants team and they're 2 maybe 3 win squad

vageneral08;4081483 said:
seriously doubt that with the defense and run game the giants have.....

This was your response to his comment , ur implying all year the Giants Defense and Giants Run game would have still won them a bunch of games which is false they both sucked damn near all year

vageneral08;4081607 said:
I'm talking about when it matters most they've came thru.....when they needed to win to clinch a playoff spot both the running and defense did their job so what are you talking about?

And this is just a backpedal post ..nothing more to it , u just dont know what you talking about as usual.
 
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vageneral08;4081599 said:
It's not the hate bruh....it's true what most of these dudes are talking about even when giants defense had shitty moments it was still better than the colts defense no secondary, not a good blitzing defense all we have has two great pass rushers (freeney, mathis) and the colts defense stay in the low rankings between 25-32 not a good look but with peyton they're still considered an elite team I'm not taking nothing away from eli but he has an advantage over peyton as far as defense goes

I've never said that Eli is on Peyton's level, that's other niggas bein disrespectful and hoppin on the Eli bandwagon all of a sudden....Like I said before, nobody on here is a bigger Eli fan than me but niggas are goin overboard, I've never changed my stance on anything except for the fact that i had him as the 7th best qb in the league coming into this year and now i have him at 5.......But having said that, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Eli will end up having a better career than Peyton..Does that mean he's more talented?? No, but I'm sick of niggas tryna discredit Eli like a fuckin scrub or somethin, and then all the sudden niggas wanna start flip floppin..When true fans been there since day one defending him.
 
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vageneral08;4081607 said:
I'm talking about when it matters most they've came thru.....when they needed to win to clinch a playoff spot both the running and defense did their job so what are you talking about?

They wouldn't have had that chance if Eli didn't carry them niggas to that point.....and like i said I love my defense, but they just started clickin in the last 4 games...Eli got them to that point..JPP has been the only consistent defensive player all year..
 
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