East says south is wack... But what about the wackness the east is comin with??

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Reapmills;334219 said:
CLASSICS are subject to the opinion of the listener... in my opinion i feel that people are getting King and Urban Legend mixed up... and yeah Rae is dope... but NY heads are really hell bent on Cuban bein classic... and if Cuban is a Classic than King is too.

I can agree with that.....
 
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tri3w;334217 said:
that Trap shit was out b4 TI.......dude jsut gave it a name...............Clipse was kickin that shit..............Hot boyz and Juvie was to back in the Day.........So Was Scarface
exactly he gave it a name

My sentiments exactly niggaz been selling drugs since the 50's lol but he gave it a name... that name is one of the most relevant terms in the hip-hop dictionary now... how big has that word become people... im not sayin he was the first one to come out with drug talk... that would be a total falsehood... BUT he coined the phrase that is prevalent in hip-hop today... it gave the south rappers a reason to drop albums containing nothing more than drug talk... (which i know Trap Musik wasnt one of)
 
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t. webb;334209 said:
Co-Sign......

I'm going listen to what I deem good music....I don't care if you from Australia or Pluno.....if the musci is good to me, it gets play.....

Right. In one day I can listen to Blu & Exile, Little Brother, Lupe Fiasco, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Common, Evidence, Wale, Nas, etc. If you're nice you're nice. Period.
 
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mostvigorousone;334225 said:
Classic Joe Budden line: "I swear some of these fans, they put their whole life on the line it's like they can't like more than one rapper at a time"

I agree with that... he's gonna have fans cuz he spits... but as far as his LANE goes and that national exposure... drake has it on smash... and i dont even like drake all that much... i actually hope he knocks him off his high horse... wishful thinking
 
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mostvigorousone;334237 said:
Right. In one day I can listen to Blu & Exile, Little Brother, Lupe Fiasco, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Common, Evidence, Wale, Nas, etc. If you're nice you're nice. Period.

but does not listening to less than lyrical MC's make that BAD music... one of the hardest rappers ever (Styles) wasnt necessary lyrical... more HARD than anything... "I'll get you kidnapped raped and thrown off a roof"
 
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Reapmills;334255 said:
but does not listening to less than lyrical MC's make that BAD music... one of the hardest rappers ever (Styles) wasnt necessary lyrical... more HARD than anything... "I'll get you kidnapped raped and thrown off a roof"

Not at all....yeah I prefer to listen to dudes that are sayng something in their lyrics but I'll easily through on some Fifty, Gucci, or whatever if I'm just in the mood t listen to that....
 
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Reapmills;334164 said:
ok this from a group of people who think Cuban Linx was classic when the first 6 songs sound like the same fuckin song... how many times has one of your beloved east coast all-stars had the number 1 and number 2 singles at the SAME TIME???? King was classic for the same reason Blueprint was... big single and content relevant to the times... great production and lyrics... thats what makes a classic...

it seems like u dont know wat a classic album is.............allow me to Explain..............a Classic album leaves it marks on wateva genre its in............Gospel, Rock Jazz, Opera Blues u name it, thats wat a classic album does. The reason y the Blueprint is a classic album is because of the Impact the protcution had on the game........it gave hiphop a sound never heard b4, and the game ran with it............King can have an arguement because with that album he set out to prove a claim he been making every snice his first album, he is the King of the SOuth
 
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Reapmills;334233 said:
exactly he gave it a name

My sentiments exactly niggaz been selling drugs since the 50's lol but he gave it a name... that name is one of the most relevant terms in the hip-hop dictionary now... how big has that word become people... im not sayin he was the first one to come out with drug talk... that would be a total falsehood... BUT he coined the phrase that is prevalent in hip-hop today... it gave the south rappers a reason to drop albums containing nothing more than drug talk... (which i know Trap Musik wasnt one of)

but did it reallly have Classic material like that???? just Cuz he gave it a Name dont make iot a Classic album..........im sorry
 
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Lol @ Saigon being ass. This nigga doesn't even listen to the people he is claiming to be wack.
 
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Reapmills;334255 said:
but does not listening to less than lyrical MC's make that BAD music... one of the hardest rappers ever (Styles) wasnt necessary lyrical... more HARD than anything... "I'll get you kidnapped raped and thrown off a roof"

People listen to rap music for different reasons. Some want to move/dance, some want to be motivated, some want to learn, some want to appreciate the artistry/poetic abilities, some just want to hear a beat and rhymes and don't care what is being said. Many of us fit into more than one of those categories, but we emphasize one more than the other. So I wouldn't call the music you listen to bad if you like to listen to less lyrical MC's, because you may gravitate more toward something that makes you dance. But I will call it wack if the content is filled with stereotypical ignorance, hypocrisy, or things that I would consider ridiculous. I think many people nowadays fall in the "I just want to hear a beat and rhymes and don't care what is being said" category, as well as the "just want to dance" category. I believe this is one of the major factors in the generational gap/misunderstanding among hip hop fans. I could get into that more, but I'm thinking about making a thread on that topic.

I listen to Styles P. He's a knowledgeable/decent guy when he wants to be. You just have to pick and choose what you accept from him. Gangster and a Gentleman truly describes him. I listen to the "gentleman" side more, b/c he addresses social issues (I'm Black, Testify, Thrill is Gone, Stop Look & Listen, etc.). I can't really mess with the extra violent Styles P. So he makes some bad music and some good music.
 
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Good point on papoose lol makes me wonder if the kid will ever get his buzz back with the mainstream hip hop fans on count dude cannot make singles
 
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goodfella2050;334363 said:
Good point on papoose lol makes me wonder if the kid will ever get his buzz back with the mainstream hip hop fans on count dude cannot make singles

When he was first out he was nice............dude cant make songs though..............thats his problem
 
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jamacia;334485 said:
Call Jim Jones wack yet you probably like Gucci Mane.

maybe you should read my other posts when i said Gucci is the worst rapper ever... OR when i said he should shoot himself in the face... 1-800-ABCDEFG people
 
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mostvigorousone;334332 said:
People listen to rap music for different reasons. Some want to move/dance, some want to be motivated, some want to learn, some want to appreciate the artistry/poetic abilities, some just want to hear a beat and rhymes and don't care what is being said. Many of us fit into more than one of those categories, but we emphasize one more than the other. So I wouldn't call the music you listen to bad if you like to listen to less lyrical MC's, because you may gravitate more toward something that makes you dance. But I will call it wack if the content is filled with stereotypical ignorance, hypocrisy, or things that I would consider ridiculous. I think many people nowadays fall in the "I just want to hear a beat and rhymes and don't care what is being said" category, as well as the "just want to dance" category. I believe this is one of the major factors in the generational gap/misunderstanding among hip hop fans. I could get into that more, but I'm thinking about making a thread on that topic.

I listen to Styles P. He's a knowledgeable/decent guy when he wants to be. You just have to pick and choose what you accept from him. Gangster and a Gentleman truly describes him. I listen to the "gentleman" side more, b/c he addresses social issues (I'm Black, Testify, Thrill is Gone, Stop Look & Listen, etc.). I can't really mess with the extra violent Styles P. So he makes some bad music and some good music.

I cosign def...
 
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Reapmills;334046 said:
Yall east coasters always wanna rag on the south... im not from the south (Chicago actually) and yes Gucci sucks massive dick and Wacka aint lyrical but he knows how to put on a show, OJ sucks, Briscoe sucks, most of the NEW SCHOOL is ASS and NO ONE in the FRESHMAN 10 (XXL) IS GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL.

Back to my point tho... East Coast is responsible for a nice portion of the wackness thats in the game right now... yall livin off them old glory days (mid 90's- to like 04) like shit still the same but lets list shit out shall we

Saigon (ass and you know it)

Maino (nothing worthwhile about his spits at all)

Papoose (sounds like he is a lost child on a single or any record other than some lyrical shit)

Tru-Life (do we even care)

J-Hood (garbage trash dookie)

J. Coles (sorry we already have a Drake)

Jim Jones (lol really now)

all your little battle rappers who will never sell a unit and cant even make a decent song because they spend all their bars in battles?

Ron Browz (fake ass T-Pain)

Charles Hamilton (who wants to be the best female rapper ever)

Cam... (thats my man but he's not dope)

No one wants to hear Hell Rell anymore... and very few did when he was poppin

Nicki Minaj (Raps like shes fuckin retarded

Jae Millz (just another benchwarmer on young money

Jojo "Young" Simmons (his little brother is better than him lmao)

Cory Gunz (dope but who gives a shit he has no swag and no delivery)

Fabolous Lost a step since Breathe...

Wale

Ransom

Blu (last years freshman 10)

Meanwhile the south has given us

T.I. (3 classic albums... top that)

Luda (who destroys more or less any record he gets on)

Young Jeezy (who has shown a TON of growth)

Rick Ross (cant deny he has bars)

Face (Legendary)

Chamillionaire (has bars)

Outkast (no comment)

Killer Mike (no comment)

and the list goes on

Shit if it wasnt for half of slaughterhouse and in particular Joell Ortiz the east coasts "New School" would be the worse ever...

Hate it if you want but you know the shit is true...

The funny part of this post is that the New York list mostly consist of artists that just got in the game recently trying to make a name for themselves. While the entire South list is artists that have already established their name and position in the Rap game.

Your argument holds no weight.

FAIL!
 
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youngnick;334298 said:
Lol @ Saigon being ass. This nigga doesn't even listen to the people he is claiming to be wack.

Ummmm sir... i started listing to Saigon when Warning Shots (04) came out he has never been dope i spent a lot of time in NY cuz my shorty was from Brooklyn EVERYONE I CRITICIZE I LISTEN TO THOROUGHLY BEFORE I MAKE ANY STATEMENT... THANK YOU DRIVE THRU
 
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