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I liked the way they addressed the ageism and how far away from the fundamentals shit really is without seeming aggy and embittered. There used to be all kinds of subgenres in hip hop (conscious, gangsta, alternative, storytelling, comedic etc.) just like every other genre had (like jazz had smooth jazz and latin jazz etc.)
Now we just want to group everything urban under one umbrella. It not only weakens the culture because of lack of structure it also confuses the shit out of people.
I agree with the magic of '88 that's when I got into this shit. Everybody had their own individual flavor and style. It was the true essence of the game; unapologetic self expression and EVERYBODY got to eat cause of that. Whether it was PE, BDP, G RAP, Kane, Rakim or Slick Rick everybody got to reach success doing them. Not aping and jocking the next man.
This was my first Drink Champs episode but I'll stay peeping. Nore is doing the lord's work with this platform.
Now we just want to group everything urban under one umbrella. It not only weakens the culture because of lack of structure it also confuses the shit out of people.
I agree with the magic of '88 that's when I got into this shit. Everybody had their own individual flavor and style. It was the true essence of the game; unapologetic self expression and EVERYBODY got to eat cause of that. Whether it was PE, BDP, G RAP, Kane, Rakim or Slick Rick everybody got to reach success doing them. Not aping and jocking the next man.
This was my first Drink Champs episode but I'll stay peeping. Nore is doing the lord's work with this platform.
I also liked what they said about sampling. Even if you have to give 100 percent up to get it cleared. If the sample is worth it you should. The music comes first.
If that sample is what makes that song gain its magic why try to stop that? Just cause you want more royalty points? Don't deprive the world of greatness over greed. That's not hip hop.
If that sample is what makes that song gain its magic why try to stop that? Just cause you want more royalty points? Don't deprive the world of greatness over greed. That's not hip hop.
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Another thing I enjoy about listening to our pioneers is, when they're speaking about misunderstandings with other artists these dudes was stepping to each other to squash shit or keeping it on records. I've been a Hip Hopper for 30+ years and some of these misunderstandings you may have heard some rumors about. But many you didn't even know happened. Whereas today artists are manufacturing misunderstandings for clicks, likes, and sales.
If it wasn't for everybody doing their own thing I would've never gotten into this music. Is it a wonder so many write the genre off today because it all sounds the same? (remedial rhymes over trap beats).
Diversity is what sustains longevity. Too many people in hip hop allowed these greedy corporate fucks to make them forget that.
Diversity is what sustains longevity. Too many people in hip hop allowed these greedy corporate fucks to make them forget that.
THE_R_;c-10022920 said:THE THOUGHT OF RAE & GHOST DOING THEIR BACK/FORTH STORYTELLING TO JANE :+1:
When E pointed out that he will specifically have Ghost do the usual J to the A to the N to the E breakdown I was like "damn this is why he's such a great producer". I visualized that shit like right away.
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king hassan
New member
Favorite rap group in the world is E.P.M.D. - Phife
king hassan
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Trollio ;c-10023068 said:Top 10 drink champs interviews that i watched
Epmd
Trick daddy
David banner
Trina
Brand nubian
Ll cool j
Mike epps
E40
Taxstone
Luke
Watching the Luke one now. Saw the Btand Nubian and the Pete Rock and Preemo, Duck Down, ATCQ too
king hassan;c-10023214 said:Trollio ;c-10023068 said:Top 10 drink champs interviews that i watched
Epmd
Trick daddy
David banner
Trina
Brand nubian
Ll cool j
Mike epps
E40
Taxstone
Luke
Watching the Luke one now. Saw the Btand Nubian and the Pete Rock and Preemo, Duck Down, ATCQ too
Mike Epps was cool too
konceptjones
New member
jee504;c-10023602 said:Checked this out today. Man this was too dope. These interviews are so good. It's like listening to a song you don't want to end.
Another thing I took from this was the year 88. I hear so much about it. I wanna go and listen to the albums I never listened to from that time.
Bruh... 88 was such a dope ass year for hip hop. Eric B and Rakim dropped Paid in Full in the summer of '87 and basically sent everyone back to the lab. That album completely changed everything about hip hop going forward from the way MC's rhymed to the way shit was produced, the imagery, everything.
In 88 the changes were evident: EPMD came with Strictly Business, Run DMC came back with "Tougher Than Leather, KRS One/BDP dropped By All Means Necessary, Lyte hit with Lyte As A Rock, Big Daddy Kane dropped Long Live the Kane, Biz Markie's "Goin Off" dropped early in '88, Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince's "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" came out, Public Enemy's "It Takes a Nation of Millions..." came out that summer as did Salt and Pepa's A Salt with a Deadly Pepa, "Straight Outta Compton" came out just before we all went back to school and Ice T's Power and Eazy E's Eazy-Duz-It came out right after we started classes, Rob Base and DJ E-Z Rock killed the lunchroom with "It Takes 2", The Great Adventures of Slick Rick came out late in the year but still made it's mark, 2 Live Crew came back in a big way with Move Somethin', and on top of all of this Eric B and Rakim came right back with their second album "Follow The Leader".
Look at that list of albums right there. That represents some of the most critically acclaimed albums hip hop has ever had and that's not all of them dropped that year and on top of that most of them were released within a 3-4 month window from May through August of '88. The summer has NEVER had a better soundtrack when it comes to hip hop. There were other albums that dropped that simply added to the overall atmosphere like Super Lover Cee & Casanova Rud 's "Girls I Got 'Em Locked", Chubb Rock's self titled album, King Tee's Act A Fool, Audio Two's What More Can I Say? and Steady B's Let The Hustler's Play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_in_hip_hop_music
I found that list while I was writing all of that. Look at that shit... Look at the sheer diversity of it all. All that classic shit came out in '88. No not everyone had a big hit, but everyone contributed to making 88 the turning point in hip hop.
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konceptjones;c-10023683 said:jee504;c-10023602 said:Checked this out today. Man this was too dope. These interviews are so good. It's like listening to a song you don't want to end.
Another thing I took from this was the year 88. I hear so much about it. I wanna go and listen to the albums I never listened to from that time.
Bruh... 88 was such a dope ass year for hip hop. Eric B and Rakim dropped Paid in Full in the summer of '87 and basically sent everyone back to the lab. That album completely changed everything about hip hop going forward from the way MC's rhymed to the way shit was produced, the imagery, everything.
In 88 the changes were evident: EPMD came with Strictly Business, Run DMC came back with "Tougher Than Leather, KRS One/BDP dropped By All Means Necessary, Lyte hit with Lyte As A Rock, Big Daddy Kane dropped Long Live the Kane, Biz Markie's "Goin Off" dropped early in '88, Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince's "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" came out, Public Enemy's "It Takes a Nation of Millions..." came out that summer as did Salt and Pepa's A Salt with a Deadly Pepa, "Straight Outta Compton" came out just before we all went back to school and Ice T's Power and Eazy E's Eazy-Duz-It came out right after we started classes, Rob Base and DJ E-Z Rock killed the lunchroom with "It Takes 2", The Great Adventures of Slick Rick came out late in the year but still made it's mark, 2 Live Crew came back in a big way with Move Somethin', and on top of all of this Eric B and Rakim came right back with their second album "Follow The Leader".
Look at that list of albums right there. That represents some of the most critically acclaimed albums hip hop has ever had and that's not all of them dropped that year and on top of that most of them were released within a 3-4 month window from May through August of '88. The summer has NEVER had a better soundtrack when it comes to hip hop. There were other albums that dropped that simply added to the overall atmosphere like Super Lover Cee & Casanova Rud 's "Girls I Got 'Em Locked", Chubb Rock's self titled album, King Tee's Act A Fool, Audio Two's What More Can I Say? and Steady B's Let The Hustler's Play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_in_hip_hop_music
I found that list while I was writing all of that. Look at that shit... Look at the sheer diversity of it all. All that classic shit came out in '88. No not everyone had a big hit, but everyone contributed to making 88 the turning point in hip hop.
I'm telling you, Hip Hop has never had a summer as dope as 1988
By All Means Necessarry
It Takes A Nation of Millions
Strictly Business
Long Live The Kane
In Full Gear
Follow The Leader
Goin Off
He's The DJ I'm The Rapper
Power
A Salt With A Deadly Pepa
Tougher Than Leather
On The Strength
Colors Soundtrack
Plus It Takes Two by Rob Base and DJ Ez Rock was the song that got the party started that summer.
Its impossible to name a better summer for Hip Hop.
king hassan
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I was 15 in 1988 and had all these cassettes
king hassan;c-10023749 said:I was 15 in 1988 and had all these cassettes
Me too. But I was buying vinyl because I wanted to be a DJ
