Draft in the 21st Century

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Americans dont have the heart for another draft. Plus warfare has been moving towards less ground troops and more planes, ships, & bombs over the last 30 years.

I dont really see a scenario where we would have to draft more soldiers. Our "Shock & Awe" attack on Iraq was to put the rest of the world on notice that we have the ability to level a country with strictly air power and naval power. Only question is do we wanna occupy and hold territory? Dont see why we would need or want to do that.
 
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ustreet_monsta;3906670 said:
Americans dont have the heart for another draft. Plus warfare has been moving towards less ground troops and more planes, ships, & bombs over the last 30 years.

I dont really see a scenario where we would have to draft more soldiers. Our "Shock & Awe" attack on Iraq was to put the rest of the world on notice that we have the ability to level a country with strictly air power and naval power. Only question is do we wanna occupy and hold territory? Dont see why we would need or want to do that.

China could be a problem
 
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They got a lot of people over there, but they're all bunched up along the coast in a handful of cities. They'd be waving the white flag after the first 48 hours of getting bombed.

Until they get a real navy or some better technology they dont want it with us.

People always forget that we havent fought a no holds barred war since WWII. If we took the gloves off it'd be nasty.
 
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ustreet_monsta;3906756 said:
They got a lot of people over there, but they're all bunched up along the coast in a handful of cities. They'd be waving the white flag after the first 48 hours of getting bombed.

Until they get a real navy or some better technology they dont want it with us.

People always forget that we havent fought a no holds barred war since WWII. If we took the gloves off it'd be nasty.

Lol thats real shit though... Do you think our mounting debt to China would help to pay for their needed military improvements though? And you know Russia would fuck with China before they would fuck with the US
 
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I don't see a draft occurring ever again in America. There will be riots and bloodshed in the streets against anyone who forces me to join a war. If I want to fight in a war, I'll volunteer. Otherwise, I will spill pounds of blood and be killed myself before anyone forces me into war.
 
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I've been to jail before, I think I can handle it. And I don't think it's legal to send criminals to war but I personally think it's a good idea. If they fight hard for their country, I'd be all for their sentence being reduced or even commuted, depending on the criminal's history and bravery during battle.
 
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My only concern is handing a sociopath an M16......whose to say what they'd do with it lol.......on 2nd thought maybe it isn't a good idea. Psychological tests before handing any felon a weapon during war.
 
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Young-Ice;3907216 said:
i agree with this..

just seems odd though, considering how many folks are in prison
if a draft went down, are they really gonna turn down good men?

I'm sure the military would take a ton of prisoners if they pass a psychological test and can prove they are able fighters. If a draft ever occurs, there are a ton of prisoners who would definitely fight if promised a reduction of their sentence. Slaves were given the chance to fight back in the 1860s during the Civil War, and they proved to be some of the best fighters throughout the whole war.
 
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heyslick;3908213 said:
I find it ironic that so many enjoy the benefits of true freedom - but they aren't willing to fight for the country that affords them those freedoms. The greatest generation is in real decline and will be a distant memory soon. I don't want the draft to come back....but its just a shame that so many show there true nature when asked to do something for their country. Generation X? Y? Z? sure don't impress me. America has lost its moral compass....seriously I feel for the next generation of Americans.

What would Americans be fighting for now these days? Aside from stealing resources from other countries?
 
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kingblaze84;3910332 said:
What would Americans be fighting for now these days? Aside from stealing resources from other countries?

There is always a reason when there's a war when it comes to America. After all America is a business, and like any other good business it doesn't start wars and send people to die for someone else just out of the goodness of there hearts.

Resources is the name of the game when it comes to war.
 
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kingblaze84;3910318 said:
Slaves were given the chance to fight back in the 1860s during the Civil War, and they proved to be some of the best fighters throughout the whole war.
this was a little more complicated than the prisoner notion being discussed, though.

also, the best fighters during the Civil War were the drunken soldiers of the Fifty-First Pennsylvania
 
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heyslick;3910400 said:
Does it really matter? its obvious you wouldn't fight for the country/America with the beliefs you hold. Maybe you're another Muhammad Ali? his convictions wouldn't allow for him to fight them Vietcong as he so eloquently stated back in the draft era.

edit here's the actual quote

based on his religious beliefs and opposition to the Vietnam War. Ali stated, "I ain't got no quarrel with them Viet Cong... No Viet Cong ever called me nigger" – one of the more telling remarks of the era.

Muhammed Ali was right and is a hero to me, one of my favorite people of all time. The Viet Cong did nothing to America except support communism. America's war against Vietnam was the height of extreme evil because it was basically a war over money. And no, I wouldn't fight a war for this country unless I saw evidence it was for a good cause. The wars America is fighting now should have ended years ago.
 
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heyslick;3944624 said:
If America didn't have so many special interest groups and bleeding heart liberals,who think its America's job to save the entire planet. -- J ust maybe we could sustain ourselves on our OWN natural resources? WE need to stop trying to spread democracy around the world...if those in the Middle East can't get along? then just let them fight it out.

LOL so why did Bush, Nixon, Gerald Ford, and Reagan love killing and throwing bombs in the Middle East than?
 
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kingblaze84;3946005 said:
The Viet Cong did nothing to America except support communism.
eh, you can argue they were fighting an ally.

kingblaze84;3946005 said:
America's war against Vietnam was the height of extreme evil because it was basically a war over money.
so here's an example of what i'm talking about when i say "theatrical reactions": you're telling me that the Vietnam War, WHATEVER you think of it, is a better example of "the height of extreme evil" than World War II?
 
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janklow;3950097 said:
eh, you can argue they were fighting an ally.

so here's an example of what i'm talking about when i say "theatrical reactions": you're telling me that the Vietnam War, WHATEVER you think of it, is a better example of "the height of extreme evil" than World War II?

The war in Vietnam was not necessary either way, why sacrifice the lives of tens of thousands of Americans to protect an ally all the way in Asia? Why not let another Asian country fight for the Viet Cong?? Please.....and yes the war in Vietnam was the height of extreme evil because of it not only being completely unnecessary, but the tons of children who were burned alive over an economic idea. The war in Vietnam was evil and wrong.
 
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