Dr. Umar Johnson at The Breakfast Club

[216atlran]

The older i get the more and more i've come to the realization the root of blacks problem in this country and other countries stems from financial literacy. A formal education is quite overrated and this is coming from a nigga with three degrees. lol We don't know how to manage money, how to make money, and how to recycle it in our communities. Then we find ourselves living check to check in low paying jobs, having to depend on white lending companies who don't want to lend us shit,etc. Money is the deep down root cause of blacks issues imo. Our parents didn't know shit about finances and in return they didn't teach us shit.

Your theory about financial literacy is false a la Black Wall Street, and you're marginalizing how rigged the game really is. If we found a way to make more money than them, the dollar would mysteriously crash and now whatever we lack would become top value. Or they would make what we're doing illegal, taxes, propaganda, claim something to do with terrorism, or just overthrow it with brute force a la Black Wall Street. They're controlling the game in this country, and won't hesitate to cheat or do whatever it takes for them to stay on top.

The ONLY way to make moves is to pursue knowledge of: yourself, your history, your potential, your situation then everything else will fall into place. A coon with long money won't help the community, an uncle tom with deep pockets won't help his people. A selfish business man with a chain of corporations won't spread the wealth and will ignore unity for growth.

Finance is important, but we need to get the mind right first.

i agree with ya point. the game is rigged, yet we can do both the financial literacy , and get our minds right at the same time.. funny how u ain't mention guns. the devil is a savage beast..

I disagree. They can simply give all the coons the money (which is what they're doing now), and nothing will change. Why don't we have schools already in place, similar to what Umar wants to setup? Because the people with money aren't thinking on that level. Because...? Their mind isn't chiseled.

That's why the mind needs to be on point first. Once this step is complete, we can weed out the fakers and agents, and really make moves.

I agree with this, Umar said he only needs two million to build this school. Somebody like master P or T.I. Could have this done over a million times already. Financial literacy is a big problem. I hate seeing us as economical whores.

 

[Like Water]

Yo, I just finished this and Damon Wayans' interviews and both of these brothers had very insightful and interesting perspectives on a lot of things that should be important to our community.

Can't believe this thread got derailed to the level it did. Ah well. I hope some of us came away with their messages though. I really hope dude gets that school going too.

 

[216atlran]

Damn I wish I had an extra 2 million laying around dude. If he starts that school this might be the start of a new black Wall Street

 

[Koltrain]

The older i get the more and more i've come to the realization the root of blacks problem in this country and other countries stems from financial literacy. A formal education is quite overrated and this is coming from a nigga with three degrees. lol We don't know how to manage money, how to make money, and how to recycle it in our communities. Then we find ourselves living check to check in low paying jobs, having to depend on white lending companies who don't want to lend us shit,etc. Money is the deep down root cause of blacks issues imo. Our parents didn't know shit about finances and in return they didn't teach us shit.

Your theory about financial literacy is false a la Black Wall Street, and you're marginalizing how rigged the game really is. If we found a way to make more money than them, the dollar would mysteriously crash and now whatever we lack would become top value. Or they would make what we're doing illegal, taxes, propaganda, claim something to do with terrorism, or just overthrow it with brute force a la Black Wall Street. They're controlling the game in this country, and won't hesitate to cheat or do whatever it takes for them to stay on top.

The ONLY way to make moves is to pursue knowledge of: yourself, your history, your potential, your situation then everything else will fall into place. A coon with long money won't help the community, an uncle tom with deep pockets won't help his people. A selfish business man with a chain of corporations won't spread the wealth and will ignore unity for growth.

Finance is important, but we need to get the mind right first.

i agree with ya point. the game is rigged, yet we can do both the financial literacy , and get our minds right at the same time.. funny how u ain't mention guns. the devil is a savage beast..

I disagree. They can simply give all the coons the money (which is what they're doing now), and nothing will change. Why don't we have schools already in place, similar to what Umar wants to setup? Because the people with money aren't thinking on that level. Because...? Their mind isn't chiseled.

That's why the mind needs to be on point first. Once this step is complete, we can weed out the fakers and agents, and really make moves.

I agree with this, Umar said he only needs two million to build this school. Somebody like master P or T.I. Could have this done over a million times already. Financial literacy is a big problem. I hate seeing us as economical whores.

Right. I also think these rappers need to start bragging about making those donations too. Dont just brag on the materialistic shit you buy...

 

[mrrealone]

They need to have more interviews like this.....

I know they had speakers in the past, but this interview was really a nail in the coffin for quite a few issues. Still can't believe that drama about that stripper tho......

 

[Melqart]

They need to have more interviews like this.....

I know they had speakers in the past, but this interview was really a nail in the coffin for quite a few issues. Still can't believe that drama about that stripper tho......

True, but it's been a hell of a lot of progress for them on the show. I give them the utmost props for moving in this direction so that those among us that are receptive can catch it. Shit is courageous for a show on their level.

 

[Melqart]

Yo, I just finished this and Damon Wayans' interviews and both of these brothers had very insightful and interesting perspectives on a lot of things that should be important to our community.

Can't believe this thread got derailed to the level it did. Ah well. I hope some of us came away with their messages though. I really hope dude gets that school going too.

Dude were trynna tell me to chill and enjoy the derailing... nah fuck that we got enough of the BS in other threads man. If I was a mod this forum would be a lot more constructive in a lot of ways.

 

[T. Sanford]

This interview is so dope & nice that I'm about to watch it twice.

Most niccas are going to run from this knowledge

 

[StoneColdMikey]

This was fucking wonderful

 

[mrrealone]

They need to have more interviews like this.....

I know they had speakers in the past, but this interview was really a nail in the coffin for quite a few issues. Still can't believe that drama about that stripper tho......

True, but it's been a hell of a lot of progress for them on the show. I give them the utmost props for moving in this direction so that those among us that are receptive can catch it. Shit is courageous for a show on their level.

100.............

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Good interview.

I think pan-Africanists get a bad rap because they aren't really good at expressing their ideals in a calm manner. Umar did it well in this interview, but he's been guilty of doing it wrong in the past too.

For example, Umar sad he's against multiculturalism. Most pan-Africanists are. The problem is when they explain what they mean by that, they usually end up sounding like separatists. Umar did a better job of explaining it and making it clear that being against multiculturalism doesn't mean not working with other groups. It simply means keeping group defined and pure so as not to prevent you from accomplishing your goals.

 

[Ajackson17]

Good interview.

I think pan-Africanists get a bad rap because they aren't really good at expressing their ideals in a calm manner. Umar did it well in this interview, but he's been guilty of doing it wrong in the past too.

For example, Umar sad he's against multiculturalism. Most pan-Africanists are. The problem is when they explain what they mean by that, they usually end up sounding like separatists. Umar did a better job of explaining it and making it clear that being against multiculturalism doesn't mean not working with other groups. It simply means keeping group defined and pure so as not to prevent you from accomplishing your goals.

Or sometimes when they do no one is trying to listen or they try to put words in their mouth. Bottom line multiculturalism is a virus to us because we be at the head but have almost nothing to gain from it.

 

[zzombie]

Good interview.

I think pan-Africanists get a bad rap because they aren't really good at expressing their ideals in a calm manner. Umar did it well in this interview, but he's been guilty of doing it wrong in the past too.

For example, Umar sad he's against multiculturalism. Most pan-Africanists are. The problem is when they explain what they mean by that, they usually end up sounding like separatists. Umar did a better job of explaining it and making it clear that being against multiculturalism doesn't mean not working with other groups. It simply means keeping group defined and pure so as not to prevent you from accomplishing your goals.

perfect analysis. props to you for this post

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Good interview.

I think pan-Africanists get a bad rap because they aren't really good at expressing their ideals in a calm manner. Umar did it well in this interview, but he's been guilty of doing it wrong in the past too.

For example, Umar sad he's against multiculturalism. Most pan-Africanists are. The problem is when they explain what they mean by that, they usually end up sounding like separatists. Umar did a better job of explaining it and making it clear that being against multiculturalism doesn't mean not working with other groups. It simply means keeping group defined and pure so as not to prevent you from accomplishing your goals.

perfect analysis. props to you for this post

It's a good example of why you have to be careful who is the mouthpiece of your movement. A lot of people do damage to their causes because of their inability to clearly articulate what they stand for. Hearing Umar speak on it in this interview really brought it into context. I'm not going to say that every black person should be against multiculturalism, but honestly he's right, if you're a black activist, you should be against multiculturalism.

 

[DarcSkies]

i do the same thing tbh.

BUT to his point, they have no problem advertising whatever vodka or media streaming services they are trying to pump out to folks, so why not brag about your philanthropic contributions with the same energy and effort.

Because ppl week shit on you for it and day you just don't it for publicity... Ppl are cynical in the face of positivity. Then them get mad you didn't donate to this cause but you donated to that cause... Blah blah blah

 

[The Lonious Monk]

i do the same thing tbh.

BUT to his point, they have no problem advertising whatever vodka or media streaming services they are trying to pump out to folks, so why not brag about your philanthropic contributions with the same energy and effort.

Because ppl week shit on you for it and day you just don't it for publicity... Ppl are cynical in the face of positivity. Then them get mad you didn't donate to this cause but you donated to that cause... Blah blah blah

To be fair, you promote new business ventures with the intention of making them successful. Puffy wanted Ciroc to be successful, so he had to put his name behind it to give it a chance. If he's creating a new charitable organization or something, then he might want to use the same strategy. However, if he's just giving money to an organization, there is no reason to publicize it in that manner.

 

[Maximus Rex]

I agree with this, Umar said he only needs two million to build this school. Somebody like master P or T.I. Could have this done over a million times already. Financial literacy is a big problem. I hate seeing us as economical whores.

The question that you have to ask yourselves is, "Why haven't monied blacks stepped up?" It's been over a year, but yet instill Dr. Johnson is $1.5 million dollars short of his goal. This shit is straight up shameful. Dr. Johnson should have gotten the money for both his schools within a month and had a sizable endowment for the both of them. Blacks will claim that we as a people need to do this and that to improve our situation, (often citing educating our children as one of the things needed to improve our condition,) now we have a brother that have a plan in place and the only thing he needs is the money. Again, why doesn't he have it?

I've come the conclusion that we as a people, we're just aren't serious and we're content with shit. We know that shit is bad and uncomfortable, but it wasn't like it was fifty years ago where we could be lynched with impunity and institutionalized racism was the law of the land. After all, we can use any water fountain that we want, eat lunch where ever we want, live among whites, date white women, and of course get those public sector jobs that good pay and benefits.

Yeah, we'll get upset, protest, threaten a boycott, or in extreme cases riot, talk about doing something for three or four days, then after about two to three weeks go back to our regularly scheduled bullshit. The cold part about is that come October 10th, among the throng of brothers that will be at the "Feel Good Disney Wish Upon a Star Attention Whorin' March, some wealthy brothers will be in attendance and in other to attend that dog and pony show and brothers would have supported hotels, restaurants, gas stations, bus companies, and air lines that are owned by members of the dominate society. If you ask me this some ass backwards shit. But when it comes to educating our youth, (something that we all admit needs to be done,) suddenly there's a lack of funds.

The wealthy black bourgeois needs to be shamed for their lack of support for Dr. Johnson's school and to the lesser extent black people on a whole. If Dr. Johnson can't get the money for his school, then I don't want to hear shit about racism, white supremacy, etc. Put of fighting that malevolent system is supporting our own institutions and if we're not willing to at a minimum do that, then there isn't shit we can say.

 

[zzombie]

The problem with umar is that he needs more a transparent plan of action regarding the financial aspects of what he wants to do.

Rich people waste money but don't easily just give it away.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

The problem with umar is that he needs more a transparent plan of action regarding the financial aspects of what he wants to do.

Rich people waste money but don't easily just give it away.

True, and I'd need to see who he has behind the school too. I mean the stuff he talked about them teaching the is important, and I think normal schools do a poor job of imparting that knowledge. But what about the other stuff like language arts, math, science, and the other typical school subjects. They aren't the be all end all for everyone, but they are important especially for kids coming up who haven't decided what they want to do with their lives yet.

 

[WiseKing]

he made some good points