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The Lonious Monk;6671536 said:
zombie;6671074 said:
Two censuses is 20 years that's all the data and time i need TO COME to my conclusions because i am sure in the next census it will be the same shit. Mixed people are not in some conspiracy to usurp power that's not what i am suggesting at all rather they will simply naturally decide over time to affirm themselves and in doing so they create another racial block that blacks have to compete with. Making things worse america with it's history of anti-black racism will look more favorably on this mixed race group.

lol You don't even read your own shit huh? The only censuses that have had that option are the 2000 and 2010 census. That's 10 years not 20. And sense you're making an argument about the trend from one period to another, it's really only one data point. How the fuck can you make any kind of reasonable conclusion with one data point? If there is any decrease at all in the trend when the 2020 census comes back then your whole argument is blown. That's why you need to cut this out.

And your argument that mixed people will someday grow into this unified group is baseless. The only reasoning you have supporting this is that it happened in Latin America, a situation that's different from what's going on in America in a myriad of ways. The white/black mixes will never be numerous enough to have their own group, and the idea that all mixed people will just bond into a single community despite the differences in their racial and cultural backgrounds is ridiculous.

pralims;6671204 said:
so what your saying is,

in time being full black will be or continue to be looked down upon.

but if you mixed you ok, because the negative shit that goes along with being black is diluted an your more liable to do right

The bold is just silly. As Obama how much being mixed has shielded him from overt racism. And he's the fucking president, so let's not act like the every day average mixed kids has it great. Hell, why you Vin Diesel cut his hair? Dude can pass for white and get buy bald, but his nappy ass hair was a good giveaway to his real background. If life was all good for mixed kids, especially those that basically look white, he wouldn't have had to do that shit.

the 2000 and 2010 census is more than enough proof, i am not an optimist because it's not like those people are going to disappear and mixed race people are the fastest growing demographic. They don't have to be unified they simply have to exist and declare their identify. The american social order will pick it up from there. I'm looking at historical and sociological trends to come to my conclusions.

With all things being equal If a pitch black young black male goes on a job interview and a light bright next to white mix breed goes on a job interview who do you think will get the job? being mixed is the only reason obama got the job if that nigga was biggie smalls color he would not have stood a chance.
 
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pralims;6671204 said:
so what your saying is,

in time being full black will be or continue to be looked down upon.

but if you mixed you ok, because the negative shit that goes along with being black is diluted an your more liable to do right

Yes in the eyes of the american order, yes. i mean lets keep it real the lighter shades have always been favored over the darker.
 
TheEyeronic1;6672000 said:
eyebeenthis;6671773 said:
if yall expect to have black people in the future, race mixing aint a good idea.

there will always be black people.

fuck up with that dumb shit.

scared yet nigga?

at the rate our men and women keep having babies with other races "always" sounds less believable.

 
your saying everybody can be lightskinned and have an bit of black in there dna. oh.

Mexicans are not crossing the border for the world, they do it to come to amerikkka, how long before other fucking races assume to prosper in life they need to depend on whitey and they ways.
 
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pralims;6670906 said:
ThirdEyeFive;6669403 said:
I never met a Jamaican that wasn't black. Ever...

this chick won the voice

images


an its some white chick thats like 17 thats from jamaica also..she doing reggae but i dont remember her name,

She black...

And white ppl r white ppl where ever they r...

 
ThirdEyeFive;6672152 said:
pralims;6670906 said:
ThirdEyeFive;6669403 said:
I never met a Jamaican that wasn't black. Ever...

this chick won the voice

images


an its some white chick thats like 17 thats from jamaica also..she doing reggae but i dont remember her name,

She black...

And white ppl r white ppl where ever they r...

who gonna say she black by looking at her?

if anything she will say shes Jamaican, that way people will assume she has two asian parents that happen to live in jamaica
 
Mixed people are still niggers so it's all good for now. However I do fear that the establishment of mixed raceness as a separate group will further weaken the solidarity of black Americans. I still have developing ideas on interracial mmarriages
 
zombie;6671721 said:
the 2000 and 2010 census is more than enough proof, i am not an optimist because it's not like those people are going to disappear and mixed race people are the fastest growing demographic. They don't have to be unified they simply have to exist and declare their identify. The american social order will pick it up from there. I'm looking at historical and sociological trends to come to my conclusions.

With all things being equal If a pitch black young black male goes on a job interview and a light bright next to white mix breed goes on a job interview who do you think will get the job? being mixed is the only reason obama got the job if that nigga was biggie smalls color he would not have stood a chance.

It's not about being optimistic or pessimistic. Your data is simply not sufficient to support your claim. You've provided proof that for that particular time period there was an increase in people who self identified as mixed, which by the way could be attributable more to the newness of that option that any change in the dynamics of people. However, your claim is that as time goes on, more and more mixed people will go in that direction. You can't make that claim based on data that amounts to essentially one data point. If 50% of mixed people claimed mix this time and then 40% claim next time, your whole theory has been blown up.

As for the rest of your posts, there is definitely truth to it. It's not as absolute as you're making it seem though. It took a special set of circumstances to get Obama in the office. I don't agree with the idea that it couldn't have happened if he was darker though. If he was a homegrown dude from the US and was a little darker, he might have the colorist bullshit going against him, but the whole "he's a foreign terrorist" angle would have disappeared. So you can't really say. It's certainly true to say America is more comfortable with lighter blacks, but it's false to say that America never embraces darker blacks. Oprah isn't light skinned, and white people swear she's everything that blacks should be.
 
The Lonious Monk;6672409 said:
zombie;6671721 said:
the 2000 and 2010 census is more than enough proof, i am not an optimist because it's not like those people are going to disappear and mixed race people are the fastest growing demographic. They don't have to be unified they simply have to exist and declare their identify. The american social order will pick it up from there. I'm looking at historical and sociological trends to come to my conclusions.

With all things being equal If a pitch black young black male goes on a job interview and a light bright next to white mix breed goes on a job interview who do you think will get the job? being mixed is the only reason obama got the job if that nigga was biggie smalls color he would not have stood a chance.

It's not about being optimistic or pessimistic. Your data is simply not sufficient to support your claim. You've provided proof that for that particular time period there was an increase in people who self identified as mixed, which by the way could be attributable more to the newness of that option that any change in the dynamics of people. However, your claim is that as time goes on, more and more mixed people will go in that direction. You can't make that claim based on data that amounts to essentially one data point. If 50% of mixed people claimed mix this time and then 40% claim next time, your whole theory has been blown up.

As for the rest of your posts, there is definitely truth to it. It's not as absolute as you're making it seem though. It took a special set of circumstances to get Obama in the office. I don't agree with the idea that it couldn't have happened if he was darker though. If he was a homegrown dude from the US and was a little darker, he might have the colorist bullshit going against him, but the whole "he's a foreign terrorist" angle would have disappeared. So you can't really say. It's certainly true to say America is more comfortable with lighter blacks, but it's false to say that America never embraces darker blacks. Oprah isn't light skinned, and white people swear she's everything that blacks should be.

How many times do i have to tell you it's not just based on the census data i also take into account historical patterns and human sociology. @ the bolded Are your joking??? when the fuck has mainstream america ever not hated dark skinned people when has america embraced dark skin. The only darkskin blacks that america loves are entertainers.

You live in a fantasy world where did you grow up in the suburbs?? Mark my fucking words for the next 3 censuses the trend will continue i have no doubt about that.
 
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zombie;6672935 said:
How many times do i have to tell you it's not just based on the census data i also take into account historical patterns and human sociology. @ the bolded Are your joking??? when the fuck has mainstream america ever not hated dark skinned people when has america embraced dark skin. The only darkskin blacks that america loves are entertainers.

You live in a fantasy world where did you grow up in the suburbs?? Mark my fucking words for the next 3 censuses the trend will continue i have no doubt about that.

Historical patterns? When has there been any historical precedent in the U.S. for a mass movement of mixed people to reject their blackness. Don't answer because I already know you're talking about history in Latin America where there are at least a dozen principles and factors at play that aren't present in the U.S. right now

Human sociology? Ok, give me the name of the sociological principles that dictate that mixed people will eventually band together and move against their constituent races? I'll wait...

When did I say that mainstream america didn't hate or embraced dark skin. I said I don't agree that it would have been impossible for a dark skinned person to do what Obama did, and it's not true that America has never embraced any dark skinned people. Even if it's just entertainers, that's something, and considering the history in this country of people being able to use little more than celebrity to achieve political success, that supports my point.

If the trend goes as you say, so be it. I never said you were wrong; I said your speculation doesn't have any proof backing it. And it doesn't. It's hilarious that you keep trying to condescend everyone who disagrees with you with that "fantasy world/suburbs" shit. Like what does that even mean? Ok I grew up in the suburbs, and where I lived was 90% black, so what does that even mean. Weren't you born in Jamaica? Didn't you live a large portion of your life there? I was born in America and lived all my life in America surrounded by African Americans? So what makes you feel like you're such an expert on us and what goes on here? What kinda idiocy leads you to believe that you know more about how we think, act, and believe that we do ourselves? I swear for someone that is so against "crackas," you sure act like them a lot. Because they think they know every fucking thing too.

 
The Lonious Monk;6674092 said:
zombie;6672935 said:
How many times do i have to tell you it's not just based on the census data i also take into account historical patterns and human sociology. @ the bolded Are your joking??? when the fuck has mainstream america ever not hated dark skinned people when has america embraced dark skin. The only darkskin blacks that america loves are entertainers.

You live in a fantasy world where did you grow up in the suburbs?? Mark my fucking words for the next 3 censuses the trend will continue i have no doubt about that.

Historical patterns? When has there been any historical precedent in the U.S. for a mass movement of mixed people to reject their blackness. Don't answer because I already know you're talking about history in Latin America where there are at least a dozen principles and factors at play that aren't present in the U.S. right now

Human sociology? Ok, give me the name of the sociological principles that dictate that mixed people will eventually band together and move against their constituent races? I'll wait...

When did I say that mainstream america didn't hate or embraced dark skin. I said I don't agree that it would have been impossible for a dark skinned person to do what Obama did, and it's not true that America has never embraced any dark skinned people. Even if it's just entertainers, that's something, and considering the history in this country of people being able to use little more than celebrity to achieve political success, that supports my point.



If the trend goes as you say, so be it. I never said you were wrong; I said your speculation doesn't have any proof backing it. And it doesn't. It's hilarious that you keep trying to condescend everyone who disagrees with you with that "fantasy world/suburbs" shit. Like what does that even mean? Ok I grew up in the suburbs, and where I lived was 90% black, so what does that even mean. Weren't you born in Jamaica? Didn't you live a large portion of your life there? I was born in America and lived all my life in America surrounded by African Americans? So what makes you feel like you're such an expert on us and what goes on here? What kinda idiocy leads you to believe that you know more about how we think, act, and believe that we do ourselves? I swear for someone that is so against "crackas," you sure act like them a lot. Because they think they know every fucking thing too.

You are missing The point nor do you understand how i interpret history. Historically speaking mixed blacks were favored over darker blacks both in latin america and the usa and when given the chance to identify as something other than black mullatoes took it. It was called passing. There was never a mass movement only because mullatoes in america lacked the numbers now that they are increasing in number they will move away not in an organized way but in an organic natural way and are already doing so. The american order will naturally lift them above blacks.

I am not saying that mixed race people will band together you are not getting the point you are not listening or don't want to comprehend. @ the bolded If you don't gtfoh with that shit i am not impressed by white america's acceptance of black actors and entertainers those people are clowns. with no real power and control nothing. Which black entertainer has reached political sucess? lets be real.

I've been in america over ten years now and i have studied black history extensively and i travel alot so i have a wider racial perspective than you do. You think that there is major difference between blacks in latin america and african americans, but i have been in both places and i see more similarites than differences.

African americans often don't see what's going on here. it's like some of you guys live in a fucking fog.
 
The Lonious Monk;6672409 said:
zombie;6671721 said:
the 2000 and 2010 census is more than enough proof, i am not an optimist because it's not like those people are going to disappear and mixed race people are the fastest growing demographic. They don't have to be unified they simply have to exist and declare their identify. The american social order will pick it up from there. I'm looking at historical and sociological trends to come to my conclusions.

With all things being equal If a pitch black young black male goes on a job interview and a light bright next to white mix breed goes on a job interview who do you think will get the job? being mixed is the only reason obama got the job if that nigga was biggie smalls color he would not have stood a chance.

It's not about being optimistic or pessimistic. Your data is simply not sufficient to support your claim. You've provided proof that for that particular time period there was an increase in people who self identified as mixed, which by the way could be attributable more to the newness of that option that any change in the dynamics of people. However, your claim is that as time goes on, more and more mixed people will go in that direction. You can't make that claim based on data that amounts to essentially one data point. If 50% of mixed people claimed mix this time and then 40% claim next time, your whole theory has been blown up.

As for the rest of your posts, there is definitely truth to it. It's not as absolute as you're making it seem though. It took a special set of circumstances to get Obama in the office. I don't agree with the idea that it couldn't have happened if he was darker though. If he was a homegrown dude from the US and was a little darker, he might have the colorist bullshit going against him, but the whole "he's a foreign terrorist" angle would have disappeared. So you can't really say. It's certainly true to say America is more comfortable with lighter blacks, but it's false to say that America never embraces darker blacks. Oprah isn't light skinned, and white people swear she's everything that blacks should be.

Bruh thats like saying Michael Jordan's dark and he's accepted. Him and Oprah don't have any real power like Obama.

 
zombie;6674298 said:
You are missing The point nor do you understand how i interpret history. Historically speaking mixed blacks were favored over darker blacks both in latin america and the usa and when given the chance to identify as something other than black mullatoes took it. It was called passing. There was never a mass movement only because mullatoes in america lacked the numbers now that they are increasing in number they will move away not in an organized way but in an organic natural way and are already doing so. The american order will naturally lift them above blacks.

I am not saying that mixed race people will band together you are not getting the point you are not listening or don't want to comprehend. @ the bolded If you don't gtfoh with that shit i am not impressed by white america's acceptance of black actors and entertainers those people are clowns. with no real power and control nothing. Which black entertainer has reached political sucess? lets be real.

I've been in america over ten years now and i have studied black history extensively and i travel alot so i have a wider racial perspective than you do. You think that there is major difference between blacks in latin america and african americans, but i have been in both places and i see more similarites than differences.

African americans often don't see what's going on here. it's like some of you guys live in a fucking fog.

I'm not missing any point. Nobody is arguing with you about how light skin is favored over dark skin. That's always been the case, but it's not as significant as some of you make it seem. It's not like light skinned blacks are given special privileges that dark skinned blacks aren't. It's not like light skinned blacks escape the effects of racism because they don't. Unless, you were so light that people thought you were black, you were still treated like shit. If a person hates chocolate, they might like milk chocolate more than dark chocolate but they still don't want anything to do with it and they shun them both. It's the same with blacks in america. Lights get treated someone better than darks, but the difference is not comparable to what you see in Latin America. There is no defined hierarchy here. So you can't use this thought process alone to springboard into the believe that mixed people will one day drift away from blacks and become a threat.

And if you're not saying that the mixed race will band together, then I really can't see how you can support them being a threat. If the black community is unified, there is no way an ununified grouping of various mixes could ever do any real damage. Whether mixed people were preferred or not becomes irrelavent because they couldn't really exercise their power in any meaningful way without actually unifying as a group.

I don't like Oprah, but you're stupid if you're saying she has no power. Oprah's cosign of Obama had a notable affect on his numbers. That's indisputable fact. I think Michael Jordan is a jackass, but once again you're retarded if you think that dude couldn't put a couple years into improving his image and easily win some political position in either Chicago or NC. If you don't believe that, then you are really underestimating the stupidity of the American voter.
 
The Lonious Monk;6676562 said:
zombie;6674298 said:
You are missing The point nor do you understand how i interpret history. Historically speaking mixed blacks were favored over darker blacks both in latin america and the usa and when given the chance to identify as something other than black mullatoes took it. It was called passing. There was never a mass movement only because mullatoes in america lacked the numbers now that they are increasing in number they will move away not in an organized way but in an organic natural way and are already doing so. The american order will naturally lift them above blacks.

I am not saying that mixed race people will band together you are not getting the point you are not listening or don't want to comprehend. @ the bolded If you don't gtfoh with that shit i am not impressed by white america's acceptance of black actors and entertainers those people are clowns. with no real power and control nothing. Which black entertainer has reached political sucess? lets be real.

I've been in america over ten years now and i have studied black history extensively and i travel alot so i have a wider racial perspective than you do. You think that there is major difference between blacks in latin america and african americans, but i have been in both places and i see more similarites than differences.

African americans often don't see what's going on here. it's like some of you guys live in a fucking fog.

I'm not missing any point. Nobody is arguing with you about how light skin is favored over dark skin. That's always been the case, but it's not as significant as some of you make it seem. It's not like light skinned blacks are given special privileges that dark skinned blacks aren't. It's not like light skinned blacks escape the effects of racism because they don't. Unless, you were so light that people thought you were black, you were still treated like shit. If a person hates chocolate, they might like milk chocolate more than dark chocolate but they still don't want anything to do with it and they shun them both. It's the same with blacks in america. Lights get treated someone better than darks, but the difference is not comparable to what you see in Latin America. There is no defined hierarchy here. So you can't use this thought process alone to springboard into the believe that mixed people will one day drift away from blacks and become a threat.

And if you're not saying that the mixed race will band together, then I really can't see how you can support them being a threat. If the black community is unified, there is no way an ununified grouping of various mixes could ever do any real damage. Whether mixed people were preferred or not becomes irrelavent because they couldn't really exercise their power in any meaningful way without actually unifying as a group.

I don't like Oprah, but you're stupid if you're saying she has no power. Oprah's cosign of Obama had a notable affect on his numbers. That's indisputable fact. I think Michael Jordan is a jackass, but once again you're retarded if you think that dude couldn't put a couple years into improving his image and easily win some political position in either Chicago or NC. If you don't believe that, then you are really underestimating the stupidity of the American voter.

I really wish that whole mullatoes were treated just like jet black slaves myth would die. In several places in the south during slavery mulatoes were treated as an inbetween class and could basically become honorary white people Mullatoes did not get the same treatment as dark skin blacks until after the civil war. and even after that they still pulled themselves aside and unofficially formed brown paper bag organizations. There is not big difference between latin america and the usa when it comes to shitting on black folk. The only that that really changes is who is considered black and who is not.

For the last time, the american social order will place mix race people above blacks like it or not that has been the historical norm if you dig deeper into history you will find that to be true. And that alone makes them a threat to blacks. Mixed race people themselves are powerless to stop it they only way they can is if the continue to consider themselves black, but clearly i believe that is changing

THEY are not a threat as in they are going to actively do something like create there own political organizations, it does not work like that. They simply have to exist and claim their own identify that is enough for the american system of white supremacy work.

Oprah has no power in politics you fool no more than any popular person giving a co-sign I don't consider that shit power and she's really only loved by white women. The only power she has is in money. as FOR MJ fuck out of here. Lol.
 
zombie;6677169 said:
I really wish that whole mullatoes were treated just like jet black slaves myth would die. In several places in the south during slavery mulatoes were treated as an inbetween class and could basically become honorary white people Mullatoes did not get the same treatment as dark skin blacks until after the civil war. and even after that they still pulled themselves aside and unofficially formed brown paper bag organizations. There is not big difference between latin america and the usa when it comes to shitting on black folk. The only that that really changes is who is considered black and who is not.

For the last time, the american social order will place mix race people above blacks like it or not that has been the historical norm if you dig deeper into history you will find that to be true. And that alone makes them a threat to blacks. Mixed race people themselves are powerless to stop it they only way they can is if the continue to consider themselves black, but clearly i believe that is changing

THEY are not a threat as in they are going to actively do something like create there own political organizations, it does not work like that. They simply have to exist and claim their own identify that is enough for the american system of white supremacy work.

Oprah has no power in politics you fool no more than any popular person giving a co-sign I don't consider that shit power and she's really only loved by white women. The only power she has is in money. as FOR MJ fuck out of here. Lol.

Not going to address all this, because you start off twisting and turning shit. Who said mullatoes were treated just like jet black slaves? Who has ever said that shit? All you do is make up bullshit claims and then address those. You pretty much never address the claims that are actually made. That's why your stances are so pathetic. You can't defend your point against real arguments so create fake ones out of thin air and respond to those. That's why it's pointless discussing or debating with you.

Oh and about Oprah:
http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/stuff_for_blog/celebrityendorsements_garthwaitemoore.pdf

Candidates in major political contests are commonly endorsed by other politicians, interest groups and celebrities. Prior to the 2008 Democratic Presidential Primary, Barack Obama was endorsed by Oprah

Winfrey, a celebrity with a proven track record of influencing her fans’ commercial decisions. In this

paper, we use geographic differences in subscriptions to O! – The Oprah Magazine and the sale of books

Winfrey recommended as part of Oprah's Book Club to assess whether her endorsement affected the

Primary outcomes. We find her endorsement had a positive effect on the votes Obama received,

increased the overall voter participation rate, and increased the number of contributions received by

Obama. No connection is found between the measures of Oprah's influence and Obama's success in

previous elections, nor with underlying local political preferences. Our results suggest that Winfrey’s

endorsement was responsible for approximately 1,000,000 additional votes for Obama.

So, people are basically writing papers about her and coining phrases like "The Oprah Effect" to describe how powerful her influence. Research shows her endoresement was instrumental in getting the President elected and in your mind she has no power? Nigga, shut up. You just arguing to argue. I can't believe that are people that can be as wrong as you often are but still fight tooth and nail like you do.
 
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The Lonious Monk;6677241 said:
zombie;6677169 said:
I really wish that whole mullatoes were treated just like jet black slaves myth would die. In several places in the south during slavery mulatoes were treated as an inbetween class and could basically become honorary white people Mullatoes did not get the same treatment as dark skin blacks until after the civil war. and even after that they still pulled themselves aside and unofficially formed brown paper bag organizations. There is not big difference between latin america and the usa when it comes to shitting on black folk. The only that that really changes is who is considered black and who is not.

For the last time, the american social order will place mix race people above blacks like it or not that has been the historical norm if you dig deeper into history you will find that to be true. And that alone makes them a threat to blacks. Mixed race people themselves are powerless to stop it they only way they can is if the continue to consider themselves black, but clearly i believe that is changing

THEY are not a threat as in they are going to actively do something like create there own political organizations, it does not work like that. They simply have to exist and claim their own identify that is enough for the american system of white supremacy work.

Oprah has no power in politics you fool no more than any popular person giving a co-sign I don't consider that shit power and she's really only loved by white women. The only power she has is in money. as FOR MJ fuck out of here. Lol.

Not going to address all this, because you start off twisting and turning shit. Who said mullatoes were treated just like jet black slaves? Who has ever said that shit? All you do is make up bullshit claims and then address those. You pretty much never address the claims that are actually made. That's why your stances are so pathetic. You can't defend your point against real arguments so create fake ones out of thin air and respond to those. That's why it's pointless discussing or debating with you.

Oh and about Oprah:
http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/stuff_for_blog/celebrityendorsements_garthwaitemoore.pdf

Candidates in major political contests are commonly endorsed by other politicians, interest groups and celebrities. Prior to the 2008 Democratic Presidential Primary, Barack Obama was endorsed by Oprah

Winfrey, a celebrity with a proven track record of influencing her fans’ commercial decisions. In this

paper, we use geographic differences in subscriptions to O! – The Oprah Magazine and the sale of books

Winfrey recommended as part of Oprah's Book Club to assess whether her endorsement affected the

Primary outcomes. We find her endorsement had a positive effect on the votes Obama received,

increased the overall voter participation rate, and increased the number of contributions received by

Obama. No connection is found between the measures of Oprah's influence and Obama's success in

previous elections, nor with underlying local political preferences. Our results suggest that Winfrey’s

endorsement was responsible for approximately 1,000,000 additional votes for Obama.

So, people are basically writing papers about her and coining phrases like "The Oprah Effect" to describe how powerful her influence. Research shows her endoresement was instrumental in getting the President elected and in your mind she has no power? Nigga, shut up. You just arguing to argue. I can't believe that are people that can be as wrong as you often are but still fight tooth and nail like you do.

I brought up mullatoes not being treated like blacks just to make that point clear it's not part of my overall statements it's just something i want YOU TO KNOW. Your issue is that you deny reality and the reality is race mixture has been a negative for black people in american and worldwide.

I have defended all my points. You just dismiss them because you don't think they are significant enough. You don't think the census data is enough but if you put history in it's context and think about the current racial situation and stop being such a fucking optimist your eyes might actually open.

As for oprah she has no REAL power, what laws or policies is she helping to get passed or changed. what economic programs for black people has she put in place. Your idea of power is nothing more than popularity, she can make someone popular that's it. I am not impressed by that she is nothing more than a fucking entertainer.

OPRAH is similar rush limbaugh and actually she has less influence than he does.
 

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