Dominicans are the scum of the earth!

[THIRDSUPREME]

This sh*t happens alot in DR. Certain parts of that island are real primitive and don't even get me started on Haiti. Rafa Trujillo has really messed with their mind. It's a primitive country.

I don't see how anyone can defend this type of sh*t. This sh*t was just a lynching, similar to how white folks lynched blacks in the US 50 hyears ago. This stuff is indefensible. Stop defending stuff like this out of national pride.

I have to get at one brother that made some faulty statements about the Caribbean. Don't lump Afro-Caribbeans in with Afro-Americans. Take that black = black rhetoric somewhere else. If you on some pan-African stuff I'm feeling you, but you need to understand we're not the same and never will be.

Afro-Americans got no real distinguishable connection with Africa, apart from maybe these geechi's. You got no real culture, only slaveculture. In the Caribbean and Latin America people of African descent like myself know where they come from. It's in our culture, the practising of indigenous religions, our music, dress and food. In many countries you got so called maroon communities who have maintained their African identity. In my Island Curaçao alot of Africans came from the region that is now called Guinee and the region now called Angola/ Congo. We get this through the language, religion and even physical traits. Alot of so called black Dominicans came from Yorubaland. Their indigenous religion santeria shares siimilarities with Yoruba religion. The same goes for Afro-Cubans. Alot of Afro-Columbians are originally from the region now called Congo. Jamaicans are mostly from Akan tribes in Ghana. Same with blacks from Suriname where my father's from. In certain parts of Suriname, Akan related languages are still spoken and the culture is still practised. Anthropologists from all over the world visit Suriname to study these people. Haitians largely came from the region that is now called Benin.

Afro-Caribbeans still have a cultural identity, not just a slave culture. Being black means something totally different to an Afro-Caribbean than to an AA.

The African identity has almost litterally been beat out of AA's. These white folks can do anything to you and all you do is complain and hope they stop messing with you. AA's had no successfull revolution, while in the whole Caribbean and Latin America revolutions were commonplace. AC's ain't scared of white folks like alot of AA's are. No coincidence Denmark Vesey, Marcus Mosiah Garvey, the man in your avi, Stokely, Malcolm X and even Farakhan are all from the Caribbean. most revolutionary activities in the US were headed by men from the Caribbean.

Haïti is the most known place, but you had and still have so called maroon communities and palenques where the descendants of runaway slaves established communities and retained their identity.

An AC don't have to take a fraudulent test to establish where they're from.

Nigga/spic/canadian bout to hit that 10k mark.

Congrats @youngice.......nh

Offtopoc but ain't Youngice that lesbian chick from Canada that was exposed years ago?

Some truths....some total b.s. (now Garvey and Carmichael are the only revolutionary black leaders in american history....okay nigga.) IMO the we are better than them argument only serves to give you an ego boost. To patch up your own insecurities and give you a False sense of pride my nigga. I have read and did the knowledge on Tousaint. I respect all black folks that had to endure what took place at the hands of Europeans.

My dude...a civil war was fought (and yes..I know it wasn't based entirely etc.) before slavery was abolished here. Monetarily...there is no equivalent to what the worth of slavery was to this Country. These white folks controlled us physically and mentally for generations. Those who attempted to rise up were slaughtered with the quickness.

Your whole post reeks of having to prove to yourself and others that carribean blacks are somehow better than American blacks .... which to me is some divisive self loathing shit especially if you know the facts behind what happened in this country.

/\ Are Africans weak because everyone colonized the whole continent? Are South Africans weak because they "allowed" Apartheid? No.

I hate when people try to discredit the civil rights movement because it wasn't a typical revolution. You are talking about the most powerful nation on Earth. You see what THESE crackers did to the Native Americans.

I don't talk down about other Africans cuz we all been through shit...and I know where I come from so it wouldn't make me feel better about myself to do so. We are all black...and if you niggas can't understand what that means then fuck y'all...you are the enemy.

 

[shit happens]

What did i say g?

He's black

Yall niggas dum dena bitch aint never experienced life

Adding up negatives blindly subtracting

since you don't remotely have anything intelligent to say can you please shut up.

The things yall are spouting are far from intelligent bro

You niggas are clowns g

Just shut the fuck up not every Hispanic is black and that all I have too say to you I don't respect you enough to continue a conversation

Huh? Respect me enough? Lol

Bitch nigga fuck your whore of a mother i hope the bitch dine before dinner

Respect that hoe you better go educate yourself before i have you outchea wondering why and how

Thank you kindly

 

[zombie]

I think what needs to be understood is that black people are a diverse people. And that the reason why Afro Carib beans kept more of their African identity has more to do with how slavery was practiced in the islands vs how it was done in the USA than it has to do with anything else.

In America more time was taken to break the African

 

[2stepz_ahead]

I think what needs to be understood is that black people are a diverse people. And that the reason why Afro Carib beans kept more of their African identity has more to do with how slavery was practiced in the islands vs how it was done in the USA than it has to do with anything else.

In America more time was taken to break the African

exactly....it takes time to build back what we lost. we had to develop a culture within an oppressive culture while losing who we were. we have come a long way and still got held down on the low by not offering certain jobs and only letting tokens in to save face.

the people in the caribbean had more time to develop what they didnt lose.

in haiti, they could rebel and overthrow the french but in the longterm had to pay for it with a country and lifetime of debt that kept the island from being what they could have been. in turn helping the spanish brainwash the dominican into thinking they was different from the haitian when they were actually only the mixed part of haitians. be they still could develop their culture even if it was spanish influenced.

 

[Muhannad]

This sh*t happens alot in DR. Certain parts of that island are real primitive and don't even get me started on Haiti. Rafa Trujillo has really messed with their mind. It's a primitive country.

I don't see how anyone can defend this type of sh*t. This sh*t was just a lynching, similar to how white folks lynched blacks in the US 50 hyears ago. This stuff is indefensible. Stop defending stuff like this out of national pride.

I have to get at one brother that made some faulty statements about the Caribbean. Don't lump Afro-Caribbeans in with Afro-Americans. Take that black = black rhetoric somewhere else. If you on some pan-African stuff I'm feeling you, but you need to understand we're not the same and never will be.

Afro-Americans got no real distinguishable connection with Africa, apart from maybe these geechi's. You got no real culture, only slaveculture. In the Caribbean and Latin America people of African descent like myself know where they come from. It's in our culture, the practising of indigenous religions, our music, dress and food. In many countries you got so called maroon communities who have maintained their African identity. In my Island Curaçao alot of Africans came from the region that is now called Guinee and the region now called Angola/ Congo. We get this through the language, religion and even physical traits. Alot of so called black Dominicans came from Yorubaland. Their indigenous religion santeria shares siimilarities with Yoruba religion. The same goes for Afro-Cubans. Alot of Afro-Columbians are originally from the region now called Congo. Jamaicans are mostly from Akan tribes in Ghana. Same with blacks from Suriname where my father's from. In certain parts of Suriname, Akan related languages are still spoken and the culture is still practised. Anthropologists from all over the world visit Suriname to study these people. Haitians largely came from the region that is now called Benin.

Afro-Caribbeans still have a cultural identity, not just a slave culture. Being black means something totally different to an Afro-Caribbean than to an AA.

The African identity has almost litterally been beat out of AA's. These white folks can do anything to you and all you do is complain and hope they stop messing with you. AA's had no successfull revolution, while in the whole Caribbean and Latin America revolutions were commonplace. AC's ain't scared of white folks like alot of AA's are. No coincidence Denmark Vesey, Marcus Mosiah Garvey, the man in your avi, Stokely, Malcolm X and even Farakhan are all from the Caribbean. most revolutionary activities in the US were headed by men from the Caribbean.

Haïti is the most known place, but you had and still have so called maroon communities and palenques where the descendants of runaway slaves established communities and retained their identity.

An AC don't have to take a fraudulent test to establish where they're from.

Nigga/spic/canadian bout to hit that 10k mark.

Congrats @youngice.......nh

Offtopoc but ain't Youngice that lesbian chick from Canada that was exposed years ago?

Some truths....some total b.s. (now Garvey and Carmichael are the only revolutionary black leaders in american history....okay nigga.) IMO the we are better than them argument only serves to give you an ego boost. To patch up your own insecurities and give you a False sense of pride my nigga. I have read and did the knowledge on Tousaint. I respect all black folks that had to endure what took place at the hands of Europeans.

My dude...a civil war was fought (and yes..I know it wasn't based entirely etc.) before slavery was abolished here. Monetarily...there is no equivalent to what the worth of slavery was to this Country. These white folks controlled us physically and mentally for generations. Those who attempted to rise up were slaughtered with the quickness.

Your whole post reeks of having to prove to yourself and others that carribean blacks are somehow better than American blacks .... which to me is some divisive self loathing shit especially if you know the facts behind what happened in this country.

/\ Are Africans weak because everyone colonized the whole continent? Are South Africans weak because they "allowed" Apartheid? No.

I hate when people try to discredit the civil rights movement because it wasn't a typical revolution. You are talking about the most powerful nation on Earth. You see what THESE crackers did to the Native Americans.

I don't talk down about other Africans cuz we all been through shit...and I know where I come from so it wouldn't make me feel better about myself to do so. We are all black...and if you niggas can't understand what that means then fuck y'all...you are the enemy.

You took my post the wrong way, but since @pralims also took it the wrong way maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'll take that.

I don't like people using strawman arguments when we're trying to have an intelligent discussion. I never said all revolutionary brothers in the US were AC's, but the facts speak for themselves. The real point was AC's take less from and don't have that fear for white people like other black brothers have. History has proven AC's will rise up against Europeans instead of singing negro spirituals (We shall overcome?) and trying to 'kill 'em with kindness' like christians. The historical facts speak for themselves, don't ghet mad at me for knowing my sh*t.

Who called AA's weak? I just stated historical facts.

While we are all black, we aren't a monolyth. AC's oftentimes know which tribe of Africa they descended from through culture while AA's don't. This has to do with history, particularly the way slavery was practised in the respective regions. We're definitely not enemies. Try to get your emotions out of this and look at the facts with a clear mind. I believe we should get on the same page.

 

[Muhannad]

I think what needs to be understood is that black people are a diverse people. And that the reason why Afro Carib beans kept more of their African identity has more to do with how slavery was practiced in the islands vs how it was done in the USA than it has to do with anything else.

In America more time was taken to break the African

I give credit when it's due and can only say good post. Didn't see this when I was typing, but this was what I was trying to say.

To add on this, slavetraders sold whole tribes in the Carbibbean, while they seperated tribes in the US. From a slaver's perspective, Americans did a better job of 'breaking negroes in' so to speak. I think this is partly due to the fact that whites actually saw the US as their country and saw a future there while the connection with the old country was stronger for whites in the Caribbean.

It's no coincidence alot of Akan groups were behind successfull revolts. Alot of these captured slaves were soldiers in Africa, so they knew how to use guerilla tactics against these Europeans. In Guyana and Surinam which used to be one country and Jamaica Akan groups could plan revolts because they could communicate with eachother and shared a cultural identity. You still got 'maroon' communities in both these countries. Same goes for Afro-Columbians who came from Congo/ central Africa. In the US slaves on the plantations could be from every corner of Africa, having nothing in common except for their skincolour.

 

[gns]

Y'all saying some trill, uplifting, stuff.

But everytime y'all big up and show respect to your own and other cultures from the diaspora.....y'all throw a little shade at someone else.

Everyone still having the discussion is doing it.

Just an observation.

@muhannad x

Young ice and elrawd are the same person. I don't know if dude is a lesbian(lmao) but I know cat is a ; canadian, dominican, big ass mole(no diss) face dude that was in love with @pico.. :-??

 

[Muhannad]

Y'all saying some trill, uplifting, stuff.

But everytime y'all big up and show respect to your own and other cultures from the diaspora.....y'all throw a little shade at someone else.

Everyone still having the discussion is doing it.

Just an observation.

@muhannad x

Young ice and elrawd are the same person. I don't know if dude is a lesbian(lmao) but I know cat is a ; canadian, dominican, big ass mole(no diss) face dude that was in love with @pico.. :-??

You can't be talking about me since I was mainly stating historical facts. I've been to all these countries I posted about.

That Young Ice was an Eminem fan, posted in The Reason and Donkey and was a dike if I'm not mistaken. Old school Reason heads with a good memory like I have will remember this wack mofo...

 

[gns]

Dang.

@elrawd homie u a dyke?

 

[LUClEN]

No that's some gossip shit

 

[2stepz_ahead]

No that's some gossip shit

so you dont like women?

 

[LUClEN]

I like some women but I'm not a woman.

How I'm in love with Pico when it's other females I'm PM'ing

 

[Dattadude72]

Bl

I think what needs to be understood is that black people are a diverse people. And that the reason why Afro Carib beans kept more of their African identity has more to do with how slavery was practiced in the islands vs how it was done in the USA than it has to do with anything else.

In America more time was taken to break the African

I give credit when it's due and can only say good post. Didn't see this when I was typing, but this was what I was trying to say.

To add on this, slavetraders sold whole tribes in the Carbibbean, while they seperated tribes in the US. From a slaver's perspective, Americans did a better job of 'breaking negroes in' so to speak. I think this is partly due to the fact that whites actually saw the US as their country and saw a future there while the connection with the old country was stronger for whites in the Caribbean.

It's no coincidence alot of Akan groups were behind successfull revolts. Alot of these captured slaves were soldiers in Africa, so they knew how to use guerilla tactics against these Europeans. In Guyana and Surinam which used to be one country and Jamaica Akan groups could plan revolts because they could communicate with eachother and shared a cultural identity. You still got 'maroon' communities in both these countries. Same goes for Afro-Columbians who came from Congo/ central Africa. In the US slaves on the plantations could be from every corner of Africa, having nothing in common except for their skincolour.

Bro you need to do more research on the maroon/runaway communities in America

 

[bambu]

Y'all saying some trill, uplifting, stuff.

But everytime y'all big up and show respect to your own and other cultures from the diaspora.....y'all throw a little shade at someone else.

Everyone still having the discussion is doing it.

Just an observation.

@muhannad x

Young ice and elrawd are the same person. I don't know if dude is a lesbian(lmao) but I know cat is a ; canadian, dominican, big ass mole(no diss) face dude that was in love with @pico.. :-??

Yeah.....

The island niggas think that they are big shit......

Promoting myths that the "strongest" "braveist" slaves were in the islands......

Pathetic shit......

 

[bambu]

I think what needs to be understood is that black people are a diverse people. And that the reason why Afro Carib beans kept more of their African identity has more to do with how slavery was practiced in the islands vs how it was done in the USA than it has to do with anything else.

In America more time was taken to break the African

I give credit when it's due and can only say good post. Didn't see this when I was typing, but this was what I was trying to say.

To add on this, slavetraders sold whole tribes in the Carbibbean, while they seperated tribes in the US. From a slaver's perspective, Americans did a better job of 'breaking negroes in' so to speak. I think this is partly due to the fact that whites actually saw the US as their country and saw a future there while the connection with the old country was stronger for whites in the Caribbean.

It's no coincidence alot of Akan groups were behind successfull revolts. Alot of these captured slaves were soldiers in Africa, so they knew how to use guerilla tactics against these Europeans. In Guyana and Surinam which used to be one country and Jamaica Akan groups could plan revolts because they could communicate with eachother and shared a cultural identity. You still got 'maroon' communities in both these countries. Same goes for Afro-Columbians who came from Congo/ central Africa. In the US slaves on the plantations could be from every corner of Africa, having nothing in common except for their skincolour.

Both of y'all niggas faking moves.......

The Africans in the islands had a stronger connection to their homelands because they never established a native Caribbean populations......

So when one died in the islands...

He was replaced with another African from Africa .....

When one died in the states....

He was replaced with an African from American......

Revolts were more successful in the Caribbean because of the smaller scale geography.....

Not because they wanted freedom more than Africans in the states........

 

[Jabu_Rule]

I think what needs to be understood is that black people are a diverse people. And that the reason why Afro Carib beans kept more of their African identity has more to do with how slavery was practiced in the islands vs how it was done in the USA than it has to do with anything else.

In America more time was taken to break the African

I give credit when it's due and can only say good post. Didn't see this when I was typing, but this was what I was trying to say.

To add on this, slavetraders sold whole tribes in the Carbibbean, while they seperated tribes in the US. From a slaver's perspective, Americans did a better job of 'breaking negroes in' so to speak. I think this is partly due to the fact that whites actually saw the US as their country and saw a future there while the connection with the old country was stronger for whites in the Caribbean.

It's no coincidence alot of Akan groups were behind successfull revolts. Alot of these captured slaves were soldiers in Africa, so they knew how to use guerilla tactics against these Europeans. In Guyana and Surinam which used to be one country and Jamaica Akan groups could plan revolts because they could communicate with eachother and shared a cultural identity. You still got 'maroon' communities in both these countries. Same goes for Afro-Columbians who came from Congo/ central Africa. In the US slaves on the plantations could be from every corner of Africa, having nothing in common except for their skincolour.

Both of y'all niggas faking moves.......

The Africans in the islands had a stronger connection to their homelands because they never established a native Caribbean populations......

So when one died in the islands...

He was replaced with another African from Africa .....

When one died in the states....

He was replaced with an African from American......

Revolts were more successful in the Caribbean because of the smaller scale geography.....

Not because they wanted freedom more than Africans in the states........

To expound on that, they didn't have the home grown force the size of American whites whom cut all ties with Europe or the nationalistic motivation of Manifest Destiny. Actually, America's involvement in defeating the Spanish and Frances concerns (Revolution influenced by Americans) turned inwards gave them a leg up. The English weren't defeated, they just pulled out of the islands but still hold sway..

 

[gns]

Y'all saying some trill, uplifting, stuff.

But everytime y'all big up and show respect to your own and other cultures from the diaspora.....y'all throw a little shade at someone else.

Everyone still having the discussion is doing it.

Just an observation.

@muhannad x

Young ice and elrawd are the same person. I don't know if dude is a lesbian(lmao) but I know cat is a ; canadian, dominican, big ass mole(no diss) face dude that was in love with @pico.. :-??

Yeah.....

The island niggas think that they are big shit......

Promoting myths that the "strongest" "braveist" slaves were in the islands......

Pathetic shit......

Lol nah, EVERYBODY throwing shade in here.

Niggaz really talking bout which slaves were stronger or weaker.

Like we aren't all Africans. Makes no sense, never heard Ghanaians saying they're stronger than Nigerians physically, so y would an American slave be stronger than a Brazilian or vice versa?

 

[zombie]

there were established african slave populations slavery in the Caribbean has a longer history.

look it comes down to the style of slavery used in America your masters took better care of you .

elsewhere it was more economical to simply work a slave to death than it was to care for him

 

[zombie]

in taking care of slaves meant trying to make them as white as

 

[zombie]

possible