Does "race" exist in modern humans????

[bambu]

For the record: race is a societal construct. Its just another way of humans separating themselves from each other.

If race was solely a "social construct".......

There would be no way to differentiate humans by their continental origins (race) genetically (biologically).......

We can......

 

[Bodhi]

If race was solely a "social construct".......

There would be no way to differentiate humans by their continental origins (race) genetically (biologically).......

We can......

When DNA is tested, the results do not show differentiation between "races" but rather the similarities with other groups of people based on location. For instance, I, just as well as anyone could have DNA testing and come up with ancestry based in a particular region. The test is not to tell me what "race" I am but instead, where my ancestors come from. There may be differences between Ethiopians, Jamaicans and Nigerians because they come from different places but thru social construction, you may place them under the same racial umbrella (black, negro.. etc. and whatever). The same goes for Japanese and Chinese people. So to sum up, it's about region first, not necessarily the people.

That's where your confusion is birthed. Like I've been saying all along,

DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity. People who have lived in the same geographic region for many generations may have some alleles in common, but no allele will be found in all members of one population and in no members of any other.
http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/minorities.shtml

 

[zombie]

Because of the ever changing nature of science bambu may be proven right some day, as of right now there is just not enough solid evidence to say that race exist in the way he wants it to. I would prefer it if whites were aliens and not even human but that does not seem to be the case, or maybe the difference between whites and blacks is analogous to the differences between chimps and bonobos. This science is incomplete.

 

[damobb2deep]

if u gotta ask.......

it still exists

 

[Ajackson17]

Because of the ever changing nature of science bambu may be proven right some day, as of right now there is just not enough solid evidence to say that race exist in the way he wants it to. I would prefer it if whites were aliens and not even human but that does not seem to be the case, or maybe the difference between whites and blacks is analogous to the differences between chimps and bonobos. This science is incomplete.

I can fuck with this statement

, but that other noise Bambu was making

 

[bambu]

Because of the ever changing nature of science bambu may be proven right some day, as of right now there is just not enough solid evidence to say that race exist in the way he wants it to. I would prefer it if whites were aliens and not even human but that does not seem to be the case, or maybe the difference between whites and blacks is analogous to the differences between chimps and bonobos. This science is incomplete.

The science is more complete than most individuals think.......

@Oceanic.....

Bambu will be proven right.....

Today......

"The heart-disease drug BiDil is marketed exclusively to African-Americans, who seem genetically predisposed to respond to it. Jews are offered prenatal tests for genetic disorders rarely found in other ethnic groups.

Such developments are providing some of the first tangible benefits of the genetic revolution. Yet some social critics fear they may also be giving long-discredited racial prejudices a new potency. The notion that race is more than skin deep, they fear, could undermine principles of equal treatment and opportunity that have relied on the presumption that we are all fundamentally equal."

Egalitarianism and evolution don't mix like two dicks and no bitch......

 

[Dr.Chemix]

I avoid pseudo intellectual threads because they make you stupid as fuck. I loathe super smart dummies

 

[jono]

Because of the ever changing nature of science bambu may be proven right some day, as of right now there is just not enough solid evidence to say that race exist in the way he wants it to. I would prefer it if whites were aliens and not even human but that does not seem to be the case, or maybe the difference between whites and blacks is analogous to the differences between chimps and bonobos. This science is incomplete.

The science is more complete than most individuals think.......

@Oceanic.....

Bambu will be proven right.....

Today......

"The heart-disease drug BiDil is marketed exclusively to African-Americans, who seem genetically predisposed to respond to it. Jews are offered prenatal tests for genetic disorders rarely found in other ethnic groups.

Such developments are providing some of the first tangible benefits of the genetic revolution. Yet some social critics fear they may also be giving long-discredited racial prejudices a new potency. The notion that race is more than skin deep, they fear, could undermine principles of equal treatment and opportunity that have relied on the presumption that we are all fundamentally equal."

Egalitarianism and evolution don't mix like two dicks and no bitch......

.

Interesting....I was just reading about BiDil.

"NitroMed, The Cambridge Mass., biotechnology firm that developed BiDil, claims that it is the first specifically tailored medication to treat CHF (congestive heart failure) in an estimated 750k African-American patients..."

Sound good right? Then....

"...BiDil began life not as a specialized medication tailored for African-American heart patients but for the general public...

I'm tired of typing already so I'll cut to the point. BiDil is a failed heart medicine that couldn't be passed by the FDA so it was switched to a specialized medication for Black folks. In order to do this they considered CHF a "black problem" even though Black deaths were 1.1 for every 1 white person that died. The data is fucked up, NitroMed exaggerated Black deaths by using outdated information to get the drug through the FDA, and then when it was up for testing it was tested in conjunction with other already existing medications. Because its been passed and okayed for advertisement as a Black medicine there is no reason for it to be tested on whites.

In other words, its bunk. You got fooled by clever advertising.

Source: Medical Apartheid., Washington., Harriet A. pgs. 321-324

 

[bambu]

I avoid pseudo intellectual threads because they make you stupid as fuck. I loathe super smart dummies

I name names

 

[Doctopian]

This shit is still here?

 

[bambu]

Because of the ever changing nature of science bambu may be proven right some day, as of right now there is just not enough solid evidence to say that race exist in the way he wants it to. I would prefer it if whites were aliens and not even human but that does not seem to be the case, or maybe the difference between whites and blacks is analogous to the differences between chimps and bonobos. This science is incomplete.

perhaps "someday" differences between human beings will rise to the level of different races, but diversions like that take a long time to emerge, like 100s of thousands of years perhaps even millions

bees have different races, bees have also been around for over a 100 million years. difference between races of bees have had enough time to develop and emerge and these differences have been present along historical lineages. modern human beings on the other hand have only been around for 200k years if you wanna be generous and include anatomically correct homo sapiens, and only 70,000 years old if we're talking fully neurologically developed humans. no such constant, measurable differences exist

Supreme speculation.....

 

[bambu]

Triple post......

 

[bambu]

I'm high........

 

[zombie]

Because of the ever changing nature of science bambu may be proven right some day, as of right now there is just not enough solid evidence to say that race exist in the way he wants it to. I would prefer it if whites were aliens and not even human but that does not seem to be the case, or maybe the difference between whites and blacks is analogous to the differences between chimps and bonobos. This science is incomplete.

perhaps "someday" differences between human beings will rise to the level of different races, but diversions like that take a long time to emerge, like 100s of thousands of years perhaps even millions

bees have different races, bees have also been around for over a 100 million years. difference between races of bees have had enough time to develop and emerge and these differences have been present along historical lineages. modern human beings on the other hand have only been around for 200k years if you wanna be generous and include anatomically correct homo sapiens, and only 70,000 years old if we're talking fully neurologically developed humans. no such constant, measurable differences exist

That we can measure now. the smallest difference among populations may mean more than we think we know. could it not be that these seemingly small differences found among the so called races of man mean more than we currently know. Maybe we are biologically different from each other in a way that we have not found out yet.

A chimp looks like a bonobo but they are nothing alike they can even breed but they are two very different creatures.

 

[ohhhla]

Lol@ a guy who stated science will reveal god one day

Another guy who argue about evolution focusing on natural selection telling us to prove it.

When there is abundance of evidence in the fossil record and DNA

Fuck outta here

 

[bambu]

you can't just make up shit and say maybe it's this maybe it's that, that's not science

in what way that "we have not found" would we be different?

do y'all base any of the bullshit you spew on science or do y'all just talk out of your ass at will?

i don't have the time nor the patience to walk the willfully ignorant thru basic scientific facts. i suggest reading a book or taking a class, because i know with such certainty that'd bet my life on it, that y'all have not gotten any type of meaningful science education at all to hold the totally asinine "beliefs" that you do

the way y'all word your posts and the numerous logical fallacies littered therein makes that readily apparent

just look at this thread if you wanna see why america is nearly dead last in science in the world. for some reason, some people in this country believes science is debateable

unless you have scientific proof to back up the claims you make, they're not on the same level as ACTUAL PROVEN FACTS dipshits

sorry for the rant, this type of thing just irks the hell out of me

@kai_valya.....

Dizzy dame.......

How do you think new scientific advances are made???????

Someone steps up and challenges old ways of thought.........

F.Y.I........

Science is very debatable......

Unless you believe everything white folks tell you.......

And where are the "facts" you keep talking about???????

The only one making shit up is you and them dumb niggas cosigning you.....

 

[ohhhla]

@Kai_Valya

It's good thing you ended it early.

It would have gotten way worse.

 

[ohhhla]

@Kai_Valya

Ahh, weed. The most relaxing drug, imo.

 

[Ajackson17]

Why do you guys keep awakening KIA?!

Anyway, Kai is right, we are too similar to be separated the parameters need to be at least .25% and we don't even make .12% difference. White superiority is not genetic its psychological at the heart of it and human weakness that we all share.

 

[zombie]

Because of the ever changing nature of science bambu may be proven right some day, as of right now there is just not enough solid evidence to say that race exist in the way he wants it to. I would prefer it if whites were aliens and not even human but that does not seem to be the case, or maybe the difference between whites and blacks is analogous to the differences between chimps and bonobos. This science is incomplete.

perhaps "someday" differences between human beings will rise to the level of different races, but diversions like that take a long time to emerge, like 100s of thousands of years perhaps even millions

bees have different races, bees have also been around for over a 100 million years. difference between races of bees have had enough time to develop and emerge and these differences have been present along historical lineages. modern human beings on the other hand have only been around for 200k years if you wanna be generous and include anatomically correct homo sapiens, and only 70,000 years old if we're talking fully neurologically developed humans. no such constant, measurable differences exist

That we can measure now. the smallest difference among populations may mean more than we think we know. could it not be that these seemingly small differences found among the so called races of man mean more than we currently know. Maybe we are biologically different from each other in a way that we have not found out yet.

A chimp looks like a bonobo but they are nothing alike they can even breed but they are two very different creatures.

you can't just make up shit and say maybe it's this maybe it's that, that's not science

in what way that "we have not found" would we be different?

do y'all base any of the bullshit you spew on science or do y'all just talk out of your ass at will?

i don't have the time nor the patience to walk the willfully ignorant thru basic scientific facts. i suggest reading a book or taking a class, because i know with such certainty that'd bet my life on it, that y'all have not gotten any type of meaningful science education at all to hold the totally asinine "beliefs" that you do

the way y'all word your posts and the numerous logical fallacies littered therein makes that readily apparent

just look at this thread if you wanna see why america is nearly dead last in science in the world. for some reason, some people in this country believes science is debateable

unless you have scientific proof to back up the claims you make, they're not on the same level as ACTUAL PROVEN FACTS dipshits

sorry for the rant, this type of thing just irks the hell out of me

A fact is not a true unless it cannot be disproved. Here is a fact we do not know the effect that every gene has on our bodies. We do not fully understand how all genes effect our brains,emotions or other functions of the body. I mean for fucks sake white people have neatherthal dna in them. I am not saying race exist in biology but i am saying that we don't really know because we do not understand our bodies 100 percent yet.