The Lonious Monk
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No there is no such thing as race in the biological or anthropological sense. Race is a societal construct.
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1st of all, the first article and the second article are both from the same year, only seperated by a few months in publishing time, yet you're trying to pass the second article off as "new research".
Secondly, I'll quote from the NY times article you provided:
The authority that DNA has earned through its use in freeing falsely convicted inmates, preventing disease and reconstructing family ties leads people to wrongly elevate genetics over other explanations for differences between groups.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/us/11dna.html?pagewanted=all
Thirdly, this quote from the first article:
People who have lived in the same geographic region for many generations may have some alleles in common, but no allele will be found in all members of one population and in no members of any other;
answers this from the second:
There are clear differences between people of different continental ancestries,” said Marcus W. Feldman
@Black_Samson
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Secondly, I'll quote from the NY times article you provided:
The authority that DNA has earned through its use in freeing falsely convicted inmates, preventing disease and reconstructing family ties leads people to wrongly elevate genetics over other explanations for differences between groups.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/us/11dna.html?pagewanted=all
Thirdly, this quote from the first article:
People who have lived in the same geographic region for many generations may have some alleles in common, but no allele will be found in all members of one population and in no members of any other;
answers this from the second:
There are clear differences between people of different continental ancestries,” said Marcus W. Feldman
@Black_Samson
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Gold_Certificate
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Depends on how you define "race".
Races exist under the classical phenotypical definitions:
Not so much under the more modern genotypical definitions:
Races exist under the classical phenotypical definitions:
"A great division of mankind, characterized as a group by the sharing of a certain combination of features, which have been derived from their common descent, and constitute a vague physical background, usually more or less obscured by individual variations, and realized best in a composite picture."
a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits
Not so much under the more modern genotypical definitions:
"A subspecies (race) is a distinct evolutionary lineage within a species. This definition requires that a subspecies be genetically differentiated due to barriers to genetic exchange that have persisted for long periods of time; that is, the subspecies must have historical continuity in addition to current genetic differentiation."
an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group
Melanin_Enriched
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Race don't mean shit b. Get a whole bunch of asians, blacks, and whites and let them mate and see how race don't mean shit.
The Lonious Monk;5349786 said:No there is no such thing as race in the biological or anthropological sense. Race is a societal construct.
so basically you sayin race exists
kai_valya;5349801 said:individual variation still trumps ethnic variation. yes there are some differences amongst different ethnicities, but those differences are not qualitative enough to meet the standard for different races and they do not remain steady across historic lineages. race has a definition in biology, humans don't meet the criteria to be classified as different races simple as that
Vaas;5349921 said:Race don't mean shit b. Get a whole bunch of asians, blacks, and whites and let them mate and see how race don't mean shit.
Until you start cracking genetic structures that control shit like the ability to sweat and resistance to certain diseases....
Melanin_Enriched
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this nigga is the connexx of question marks.
Melanin_Enriched
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Plap Star;5349959 said:The Lonious Monk;5349786 said:No there is no such thing as race in the biological or anthropological sense. Race is a societal construct.
so basically you sayin race exists
That's like saying santa clause is real
Vaas;5349985 said:Plap Star;5349959 said:The Lonious Monk;5349786 said:No there is no such thing as race in the biological or anthropological sense. Race is a societal construct.
so basically you sayin race exists
That's like saying santa clause is real
but race is real tho
even if its a societal construct its still real
The Lonious Monk;5349786 said:No there is no such thing as race in the biological or anthropological sense. Race is a societal construct.
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lechic ;5350017 said:The Lonious Monk;5349786 said:No there is no such thing as race in the biological or anthropological sense. Race is a societal construct.
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FALSE INFORMATION......
When scientists first decoded the human genome in 2000, they were quick to portray it as proof of humankind’s remarkable similarity. The DNA of any two people, they emphasized, is at least 99 percent identical.
But new research is exploring the remaining fraction to explain differences between people of different continental origins.
Scientists, for instance, have recently identified small changes in DNA that account for the pale skin of Europeans, the tendency of Asians to sweat less and West Africans’ resistance to certain diseases.
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BiblicalAtheist
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I sense a move on the rise.
bambu;5350037 said:lechic ;5350017 said:The Lonious Monk;5349786 said:No there is no such thing as race in the biological or anthropological sense. Race is a societal construct.
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FALSE INFORMATION......
When scientists first decoded the human genome in 2000, they were quick to portray it as proof of humankind’s remarkable similarity. The DNA of any two people, they emphasized, is at least 99 percent identical.
But new research is exploring the remaining fraction to explain differences between people of different continental origins.
Scientists, for instance, have recently identified small changes in DNA that account for the pale skin of Europeans, the tendency of Asians to sweat less and West Africans’ resistance to certain diseases.
So, what??
.IRS.;5350063 said:I sense a move on the rise.
@IRS.
I know this will get moved.....
Just wanted some more opinions or facts outside the R&R.......
What do you think??????
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ohhhla;5350074 said:bambu;5350037 said:lechic ;5350017 said:The Lonious Monk;5349786 said:No there is no such thing as race in the biological or anthropological sense. Race is a societal construct.
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FALSE INFORMATION......
When scientists first decoded the human genome in 2000, they were quick to portray it as proof of humankind’s remarkable similarity. The DNA of any two people, they emphasized, is at least 99 percent identical.
But new research is exploring the remaining fraction to explain differences between people of different continental origins.
Scientists, for instance, have recently identified small changes in DNA that account for the pale skin of Europeans, the tendency of Asians to sweat less and West Africans’ resistance to certain diseases.
So, what??
So humans can be classified as various races......
What?????
Melanin_Enriched
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Sounds just like an adaptation to the environment due to isolated mating.
