does prayer accomplish anything?

[whar]

Luke your story is filled with people helping someone. If you had said " I will pray for you" instead of helping him with money for grocers or if that business owner had said "I will will prayer for you" rather than setting up a sweetheart business deal this guy would be in terrible straits. Friends, family, and neighbors can actually effect our lives for the good.

While I am not calling direct BS on your story, though I can find nothing online to corroborate, I am at a loss as to how close a checking account with a bank on Friday would invalidate an insurance policy on Saturday. Even if the payment was late he would just have to send in payment for coverage.

 

[luke1733]

Well judge prayers now. Yo, alright. 1st, I did tell guy I would pray for him and I did. I ain't write that on here. On other notes some of them were prayers that were answered and some weren't prayers at all. I think it's obvious his wife was praying for him and the church along with me. So? I don't have to say I'll pray for you. Your relationship with God is telling in your response to me man. You say "if you had said i will pray for you" instead of helping him....Well prayer without works is like faith without works. Christians are to be the blessing. We are supposed to be vessels used and open for God to use at his will. So since I prayed for him and others prayed for him and he received what he acknowledged were blessings then our prayers for him were answered; even though he ain't even pray but his soul was saved. That's a bigger blessing than life itself and all the material crap I mentioned (which the material stuff should not always be looked at as a sign of a blessing).If you trying to disprove a prayer then whatever man. I admit I thought that story on the insurance company wasn't all the way straight myself but I wasn't grilling him on it when I saw him face to face.

 

[danielleandramel]

 

[luke1733]

Ironically, the same insurance issue is what we fell out over 2 years after that when somebody broke into my car on his property and he didn't want my insurance to take care of it because he did not have insurance on the parking lot. He wanted to pay for replacing everything on my car himself and keep the insurance out of it because he knew my insurance company would charge him and based off that last incident it wouldn't be good for him. That's another issue, but to find nothing online to corroborate??? Really man. You don't even begin to know where to look for it. The name of the company now is Lex Techs. I don't can't remember their name 4 years ago because he changed it when the business burned. Dude call the owner for yourself. I don't BS.

 

[luke1733]

Check the resume since some yungn thinks somone lying: In the Dominican 8 years was with my girl and had the cops pull guns on me,as they do to most people that rent a car (with a big rent-a-car sticker on your back window) and stop at lights in Santo Domingo, in Dominican 4 years ago-again it happened when I was solo. 3rd at an ATM in Savannah, Ga. If you wanna check on the car dude/owner of shop call him and say whatever: Lex Techs Chamisa Road. Just look at the damn news for the uncle story on Huntsville Alabama getting hit by those tornadoes if you don't remember. The tornado didn't hit his practice building but ruined his business b/c his clients/patients homes and businesses were destroyed; and the first thing people cancel is chiropractic therapy when tight on finances. That happened like a couple years after Katrina. It ain't the time frame it's the fact that all happened to one man and his family and I was making the point this was an example of a prayerful man NOT having his prayers answered. Believe in prayer or don't. Point is sometimes people's prayers are answered and sometimes not; and sometime crazy stuff happens

 

[NYETOPn]

Surely it provides reassurance for those who believe prayer works.

 

[marc123]

lol @ the thought of black ppl kneeling @ the side of their bed b4 they go to sleep @ nite. yall niggas livin in the stone age.

 

[ineedpussy]

idk, i prayed for something and it came to fruition. now it wasnt the result i was looking for but i was satisfied and felt and burden/weight tooken off my shoulders.

@luke- good lookin holmes.

 

[VIBE]

what in the fuck happened in here

 

[Ajackson17]

Way too long didn't motherfucking read.

 

[REV_RAGE]

Nothing other than hoping something good happens, if it does we say "Praise God" and when it fails you were not pious enough...IDK

Total BS

 

[VIBE]

prayer: god help my mother as she battles cancer (even though it was "gods will/doing") give her the strength to live

2 outcomes

#1: she lives, so it's praise god, he's so glorious and almighty!!! God did it!!!

#2: she dies, so it's "gods will", no praise is given for this outcome either.

Pretty one sided for Christians.

It's all about convience.

 

[GSonII]

Prayer is meant to humble yourself before God.

 

[luke1733]

Nothing other than hoping something good happens, if it does we say "Praise God" and when it fails you were not pious enough...IDK

With respect to the above logic:

The reverse is how people who don't believe in the divine-feel and say about miracles. When something truly is a miracle and everyone acknowledges it as so, writes it down in history, and die by the thousands to testify that what they saw was true; someone else who saw the same exact thing says "nope, I don't believe it. Do it again." There is absolutely nothing that can be done for those who don't believe. All the proof in the world is before their eyes and hearts yet still they give into not wanting to acknowledge their own soul. Skully off X-Files is the prime example. See a blessing or a miracle and discount God even if God spoke through a rock and split the seas for you to walk through or brought someone and hundreds back from the dead who'd been dead for years; these people's jealousy would replace awe and then they'd move onto ignoring or denying it or distorting it. We hear "just because you don't know how it was done doesn't mean it was a miracle." Good point on most things, but if you're talking about a miracle and a miracle happens as was prayed or acts as an entity in itself as it is doing something for all to see then that is a miracle; and that is what those scriptures from the Koran, Bible and Torah are stating. Those religions aren't saying 5 people saw something. They're saying whole cities of people saw it, recorded it, knew where it came from and acknowledged it and didn't want to forget it and you couldn't convince them otherwise to say differently; even those who formerly didn't believe. But it is popular and considered intelligent Saying "God didn't do it for me so it wasn't God; it was just a freak occurrence. I admit I can't explain it, but..." Christians and all religions look for blessings way too often and hope in them more than actually being active participants in doing right by others just as much as atheists look toward denial and the hope that there is no God and lucrative theories that even the creators of those theories on their death beds retracted yet some still act as though his theory (though it has some obvious truths) is completely and all true.Those religions have been tested for over 3,000 years and still remain true, with only those who don't study them stealing theories and challenges and regurgitating the same thousands of year old questions that have already been answered; yet continue to be questioned.