Does John Singleton Have A Point..Or Not?

[The Lonious Monk]

Hollywood actually hates making movies about slaves. It's a part of history that they'd love to forget about and they feel like those movies don't make a big enough financial return.

But in terms of BP helping get the shit made, that's pretty fucking common with movies that have subject matter that is anything different then the normal shit. A big time director or producer almost always has to stand behind it for it to get any real traction towards getting made, black or white.

My question for those saying that movies where blacks are slaves shouldn't be made is this: Should we not explore different aspects of that era? Should we just forget about those dark times altogether? What makes a movie about successful, visibly intelligent, well-mannered black people any more important than movies about slaves.

I wrote a screenplay about slaves a few years back and if that bitch ever gets made (which I doubt), I'm definitely not gonna be ashamed of the movie because it shows black people 'at their worst' or whatever.

The crazy thing is that this movie is about both listed in in the bold. If I'm not mistaken, the star character of this movie is a successful Freeman that was enslaved. In other words, the character is successful and visibly intelligent, despite the movie being about slaves.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

smh..you're worthless @stopitfive.

A slave bruh? Not a king, martyr, soldier, father, son, revolutionary, president, brother, or engineer...

A slave...

 

[mryounggun]

As ai look at the cast of this shit, I'm definitely going to see it. Michael Fassbender and Quvenzhane Wallis are both pretty intriguing.

 

[kzzl]

Great, another movie showing Blacks at their worst. Hollywood ain't shit.

See this is what I don't understand.

How is this movie showing BLACK people at their worst?

You got it fucking wrong. These types of movies show WHITE people at their worst and most evil.

It NEEDS to be shown, people NEED to see it. Not only so we don't forget our history, but so they can maybe start to grasp some of what is still going on to this day.

I don't even blame you. I blame Tar Tar.

 

[Kat]

smh..you're worthless @stopitfive.

A slave bruh? Not a king, martyr, soldier, father, son, revolutionary, president, brother, or engineer...

A slave...

Yes, THIS movie is about a slave.

Should I be mad that there is another movie about whites being abusive, evil slavemasters?

It is what it is..it's the truth and the truth is what sets you free.

You're just negative as fuck about everything. I'm done talking to you.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

Y wouldn't I think negatively of an industry that sees it fit to ignore our entire history and paint a picture of blacks as perpetual slaves?

 

[kzzl]

Hollywood actually hates making movies about slaves. It's a part of history that they'd love to forget about and they feel like those movies don't make a big enough financial return.

But in terms of BP helping get the shit made, that's pretty fucking common with movies that have subject matter that is anything different then the normal shit. A big time director or producer almost always has to stand behind it for it to get any real traction towards getting made, black or white.

My question for those saying that movies where blacks are slaves shouldn't be made is this: Should we not explore different aspects of that era? Should we just forget about those dark times altogether? What makes a movie about successful, visibly intelligent, well-mannered black people any more important than movies about slaves.

I wrote a screenplay about slaves a few years back and if that bitch ever gets made (which I doubt), I'm definitely not gonna be ashamed of the movie because it shows black people 'at their worst' or whatever.

If this is REALLY an issue with some of y'all niggas, we need to be holding Tyler Perry's feet to the fire and start asking some serious questions about why - the only black actor with the money, infrastructure and clout to do so - isn't making any meaningful movies as it relates to black people.

Massive amounts of history going against those dark times is ignored. The imagery of "remember you were slaves and we were your master" is all that we're shown. That is the problem and it ain't done by coincidence. So you don't have to worry bout them letting us forget that. They'll be another ready for us to make a thread bitching bout next year I'm sure. But we do have to worry bout the other side of that coin not being shown.

Tyler Perry is a whole other set of problems I think. From what I've heard of his upbringing from kin folks, many of the messages in his movies might root from personal problems. That and a combination of wanting to keep those checks coming.

Hope that screen play of yours actually explores the different aspects of that era and isn't the same cliche's they love to shove on us already. If so then yes, I doubt it'll get made as well.

 

[Kat]

I see what stopitfive is saying. I don't even think black ppl would mind seeing another slave movie if there were more black movies in position of power. It's like for every 10-15 slave or butler movies, we get 1 Redtails cuz & that's like once or twice a decade.

Yeah, I hear that.

I'm glad you have the capability to express your opinion without being an emotional little bitch.

Kudos to you buddy.

 

[mryounggun]

I see what stopitfive is saying. I don't even think black ppl would mind seeing another slave movie if there were more black movies in position of power. It's like for every 10-15 slave or butler movies, we get 1 Redtails cuz & that's like once or twice a decade.

Let's think in terms of solutions. What is your actual SOLUTION to the bolded? Because guess what? Nobody went to see RedTails, fam. Comparatively, I mean. I know MAD niggas who stay talking about how no movies that show blacks in positions of power and influence, etc, get made...and then didn't go see the RedTails. But ran out to see The Butler. We vote with out wallets. So when nobody goes to see shit like RedTails and Miracle at St. Anna...shit kinda kills any argument these niggas have.

 

[mryounggun]

I see what stopitfive is saying. I don't even think black ppl would mind seeing another slave movie if there were more black movies in position of power. It's like for every 10-15 slave or butler movies, we get 1 Redtails cuz & that's like once or twice a decade.

Let's think in terms of solutions. What is your actual SOLUTION to the bolded? Because guess what? Nobody went to see RedTails, fam. Comparatively, I mean. I know MAD niggas who stay talking about how no movies that show blacks in positions of power and influence, etc, get made...and then didn't go see the RedTails. But ran out to see The Butler. We vote with out wallets. So when nobody goes to see shit like RedTails and Miracle at St. Anna...shit kinda kills any argument these niggas have.

Great movies.

Funny thing is you have heavy hitters in the movie industry like Oprah with her HARPO productions Will and Jada with Overbrook productions and fuck nigga Tyler Perry with his own damn studio. Yet and still we get weak ass movies being made and the movies with some type of real plot go straight to Netflix or dvd.

It's sad that we don't support our movies like we should. The same cracka movie will get made 10x over but blacks and whites will go straight to the movies to check it out. We all need the self evaluation to be honest to see if it's us that's fucked up or are we being fucked up by the media.

Tyler Perry is alone in that one, I think. Regardless of how rich and powerful Will and Jada and Oprah are, they still have to get outside funding, distribution, etc to get some shit made. Tyler Perry is the only nigga that has his own eco system from top to bottom to get a movie from idea to theaters all on his own. So it's a shame that he doesn't do more meaningful shit.

 

[mryounggun]

I went to see Redtails. It really wasn't that good of a movie either due to it's low budget and very little Hollywood support. The person who made that movie dam near paid for that shit himself. It didn't get anywhere near the same hype as the Butler. My solution is put the same backing and finances behind Redtails as you do these Kunta movies.

Some truth to this. But I don't think y'all niggas understand. 12 Years a Slave is an independant movie, just like Red Tails was. The reason it's getting so much attention is because it's supposed to be REALLY GOOD. I think Red Tails was just a bad movie. And we can't blame that on the budget, cause the budget got RT was 3 TIMES the budget of 12 Years a Slave.

 

[kzzl]

smh..you're worthless @stopitfive.

A slave bruh? Not a king, martyr, soldier, father, son, revolutionary, president, brother, or engineer...

A slave...

Yes, THIS movie is about a slave.

Should I be mad that there is another movie about whites being abusive, evil slavemasters?



It is what it is..it's the truth and the truth is what sets you free.

You're just negative as fuck about everything. I'm done talking to you.

You mean you aren't mad about it? You enjoy going to the movies to see this truth? Set's you free, huh?

Whats that word ol' boy said... "Historical Porn".... that's it. LOL, genius.

While you enjoy evil white abusive slave masters doing they thang on the big screen cause it's the truth, here are some truths I'd like to see once in a while. One could be about the many africans that aided the early explorers, the many rebellions, Estavanico, James Beckworth, York, Nat Turner, the Maroon, Black Seminoles. Hell, Tyler Perry could still do his cross dressing thing with Ellen and Willam Craft. Or a fantasized western bout Deadwood Dick...... yeah, I'll put a no homo with that.

But look at all that truth. Nothing but niggas kicking ass and taking names. Embers of light in dark times. Good ol' fashion "Fight for freedom" shit. Real truth that sets folks free. There's more to American history than evil white people.

 

[BelovedAfeni]

another slave movie under the Obama Administration

thank you

 

[fuc_i_look_like]

Great, another movie showing Blacks at their worst. Hollywood ain't shit.

See this is what I don't understand.

How is this movie showing BLACK people at their worst?

You got it fucking wrong. These types of movies show WHITE people at their worst and most evil.

It NEEDS to be shown, people NEED to see it. Not only so we don't forget our history, but so they can maybe start to grasp some of what is still going on to this day.

kat...go sit your white ass down somewhere

 

[Kat]

Nope.

 

[1CK1S]

I don't care. Still my opinion still stands "FUCK HOLLYWOOD" until a black panther or luke cage movie is made!!!

 

[dwade206]

Great, another movie showing Blacks at their worst. Hollywood ain't shit.

See this is what I don't understand.

How is this movie showing BLACK people at their worst?

You got it fucking wrong. These types of movies show WHITE people at their worst and most evil.

It NEEDS to be shown, people NEED to see it. Not only so we don't forget our history, but so they can maybe start to grasp some of what is still going on to this day.

I didn't realize how ignorant you were, but I'll break things down to you. As slaves Blacks are seen as absolutely powerless and sub human, hence we are shwn at our worst. We don't need movies to teach our children about history. Parents and teachers need to do that. But, maybe that's something your not familiar with and would rather have entertainment raise your child.

Smh

 

[Kat]

Great, another movie showing Blacks at their worst. Hollywood ain't shit.

See this is what I don't understand.

How is this movie showing BLACK people at their worst?

You got it fucking wrong. These types of movies show WHITE people at their worst and most evil.

It NEEDS to be shown, people NEED to see it. Not only so we don't forget our history, but so they can maybe start to grasp some of what is still going on to this day.

I didn't realize how ignorant you were, but I'll break things down to you. As slaves Blacks are seen as absolutely powerless and sub human, hence we are shwn at our worst. We don't need movies to teach our children about history. Parents and teachers need to do that. But, maybe that's something your not familiar with and would rather have entertainment raise your child.

Smh

I see your point @ the bolded, and you would think parents and teachers are all we need to ensure our children are aware of our history, however I think we both know that isn't what is happening.

MOST white parents are not teaching their children about the atrocities of slavery.

Even speaking personally, I learned about certain things through movies and documentaries.

Cinema can be a powerful educational tool if done correctly.

 

[1CK1S]

I don't care. Still my opinion still stands "FUCK HOLLYWOOD" until a black panther or luke cage movie is made!!!

No one cares about these bullshit secondary nigga heroes

Luke Cage ? gtfohwtbs

They secondary but they're still black!!!

 

[Meta_Conscious]

Great, another movie showing Blacks at their worst. Hollywood ain't shit.

See this is what I don't understand.

How is this movie showing BLACK people at their worst?

You got it fucking wrong. These types of movies show WHITE people at their worst and most evil.

It NEEDS to be shown, people NEED to see it. Not only so we don't forget our history, but so they can maybe start to grasp some of what is still going on to this day.

I didn't realize how ignorant you were, but I'll break things down to you. As slaves Blacks are seen as absolutely powerless and sub human, hence we are shwn at our worst. We don't need movies to teach our children about history. Parents and teachers need to do that. But, maybe that's something your not familiar with and would rather have entertainment raise your child.

Smh

I see your point @ the bolded, and you would think parents and teachers are all we need to ensure our children are aware of our history, however I think we both know that isn't what is happening.

MOST white parents are not teaching their children about the atrocities of slavery.

Even speaking personally, I learned about certain things through movies and documentaries.

Cinema can be a powerful educational tool if done correctly.

most of these movies only give u a minuscule glimpse of slavery... and an even smaller glimpse into the rich history of ppl of color...

u been brainwashed and ueno...