Does Fat Joe get enough credit???

[YamoleySensei]

Hell no Fat Joe doesn't get enough credit, but regardless what niggas might say about him he earned his stripes and is a hip-hop legend....btw "Don Cartagena" was one of the best albums released in '98

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

That Darkside album was fire...

 

[grumpy_new_yorker]

early Joe up to Don Car was cool aint really fuck with dude after Pun died like that besides a few songs here and there

 

[freshb651]

No he doesn't get enough credit

Represent is one of my favorite albums

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Niggas act like Joe hasn't been out since the early 90s , DITC days, got classic tracks, and his last album was fire. plus he heavy in the street...

 

[Billy_Poncho]

Ya'll do know that when you reply to something, ya'll can erase the links that don't apply to your posts right?

 

[nineties]

"Now who's gonna tell me that I can't say nigga?

Nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga bitch hoe"

 

[killaguwop]

except that Fif and Ross can actually write songs and can actually flow.

Joe wouldnt be disliked as much if he didnt use the word Nigger (like he does). Its too late now, he's a has been that never was. He was Big Pun's shadow.

He's the Lil' Cease of Terror Squad

ain't puerto ricans are brown which makes em considered niggaz?

 

[K_Fisher]

Joe is a vet but his biggest problem ( IMO) he always seems to just ride with trends.His songs / flows throughout each album basically just bite whoever was hot during that year.

I havent heard the whole darkside album but so far "Angels say" is my favourite

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

gets credit from me

 

[nujerz84]

Lyrically he was never really that good.. but dude had a nice flow and great ear for beats and made good street music..

I listen to Fat Joe over corny overhyped nerds Lupe and Kendrick eaisly....

^^^ That Joint shits on anything I ever heard from either of those cats...real street shit.

 

[DNB1]

Jealous Ones Envy.....shit....s/o to t's for bringing that back...

Reason being, just found the original tape cassette in my garage last bank holiday weekend....yes, I said tape cassette!!

Bumped thats shit for a whole year when it dropped.

 

[texasdaking88]

I guess every rapper with any kind of longevity should be considered top five doa... niggas add rappers to that list like they do the basketball hall of fame... anybody gets in the conversation.. fat Joe was never that nice... above average doesn't get you top five-10 doa and if it does..who you taking out to include joey?

 

[killaguwop]

except that Fif and Ross can actually write songs and can actually flow.

Joe wouldnt be disliked as much if he didnt use the word Nigger (like he does). Its too late now, he's a has been that never was. He was Big Pun's shadow.

He's the Lil' Cease of Terror Squad

ain't puerto ricans are brown which makes em considered niggaz?

Hell No

then why every puerto rican rapper calls each other niggaz.

 

[Hip-Hop One]

Nah Joe doesn't get enough props. His best material was in the 90s with his first three albums, since then he's dropped some decent material, but now he just comes off as someone trying to jump on whatever is popular at the time. I guess that's what you do when you're trying to stay relevant, though.

His early material was great though, he was down with D.I.T.C., he could rhyme and hold his own with the others. He and D.I.T.C. definitely contributed some ill grimy music during that time. I give him props.

"This story takes place back in the South Bronx..." Classic.

 

[water ur seeds]

Nah Joe doesn't get enough props. His best material was in the 90s with his first three albums, since then he's dropped some decent material, but now he just comes off as someone trying to jump on whatever is popular at the time. I guess that's what you do when you're trying to stay relevant, though. His early material was great though, he was down with D.I.T.C., he could rhyme and hold his own with the others. He and D.I.T.C. definitely contributed some ill grimy music during that time. I give him props. "This story takes place back in the South Bronx..." Classic.

yeah pretty much agree with that... most rappers that stayed relevant for this long end jumping on the trends to 'cool' to the new hip hop crowd, jay, dre, eminem etc end up working with the french's, drake's autotune's or whatever... you can say nas stayed true though to be fair...

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYc78wT0PI

Forgot about this song. reminds me of MC3: DUB Edition. That game was goat. Had a good ass soundtrack too.

Joe is cool I wouldn't call him top 5 ever tho. everyone can't be mentioned with the goats just because you been around forever. Kurt Thomas old as hell, wouldn't call him top 5 would you? Some niggas just fortunate to have a long career. Dark side was a good album tho.

 

[water ur seeds]

Uh, yo, nowadays, I'm flirtin with uncertain death

Lord I gotta be dyin, cause after all this cryin, how much more hurtin's left?

When will the pain stop?

This depression and anxiety, is gonna make me show another side of me

My ni**s ride with me cause I'm the truth

There's benefits to rollin with this clique, don't nobody fuck with you

Still they label me a tyrant and a backstabber

But study the facts of crack, the shit don't add up

I'm bringin opportunity to my community

Probably the only rapper that cares, but still you out to ruin me

Who you foolin B? I'm for unity, latins and blacks

Could you fathom the strength, we have of the two it attach

Born together, voted alike

These uncle tom politicians ain't holdin us right

How could the same nigga be 20 years in office

When it's clear the only thing that's risin is unemployment

Abortion, little kids havin kids

The school system is failing us, now ain't that some shit

While the rich keep gettin richer, the poor keep dyin young

I can't hide no more, the time has come

Everyday I'm confronted with racism

These motherfuckin coppers, wanna bag us and have us shackled up in state prisons

After all the taxes I pay

You would think when they stop us, they would have something nicer to say

Than "get the fuck out the car, where the drugs at?

all the jewelry you wearin, where the fuckin guns at?"

Once they search the car clean and find nothin

The same crooked cops try to act like they know us or somethin

Laughin, tellin jokes by the thousands

Two seconds ago they tried to send us to the mountains

Leave my son without a father, my wife without a husband

The more I think about it, man it's just disgusting

Still we live amongst 'em, everybody wants out

That's why we rap like we got silver spoons in our mouths

Like we ain't grow up on welfare

Nigga don't even go there, you probably wore Pro Players

We need to educate the youth, tell our seeds the truth

Too much to share, the bare minimum will exceed the proof

 

[water ur seeds]

Yo yo

I'm sick and tired of stressin, every days a different lesson

I'm free-fallin tryna leave this deep depression

My son Joey still slow, my moms got cancer in her throat

My big brother sniffin dope

Lemme know how many motherfucker wanna be just like me

Screamed at and treated like shit by your wifey

This hot bitch be sweatin the coke cash

My baby mother think I grow dough out my ass

It's like, how much fight I got left in me?

Ni**az won't be happy till they bring the fuckin death of me

But you never see Joe look weak or flow off beat

and Charlie sees the board in four more weeks

Uh, yo, the South Bronx, nine years later

Ain't nuttin changed, niggaz still playa haters

T.S. the best that's done it, forever live and never fronted

Reminisce of when I used to hold heat and tell n**az "run it"

Now we flooded with jewels, hundreds of dudes

Crowd the Coliseum to hear they favorite tunes

Then at the time of our prime we caught a sick one

The angels came down, took my twin Big Pun

Shit were unbalanced throughout the whole world

All I could do was try to provide for his seeds and his old girl

Hope your listenin, tell Tone that we still missin him

I'm like a prisoner in jail with no visitors

Yeah, uh, aiyyo the third verse is dedicated to you

Even though you switched teams, I'm praying for you

We used to stay up all night countin dollar for dollar

You was my son's godfather, where the fuck is your honor?

Can't even rap the shit we did together

You'd probably have me shackled locked down doin bids forever

You broke the first code

I'd like to twist ya wifey till it roasts gold

Snitch n**a, turned state to sold ya soul

How could a ni**a that was clappin in the streets

start yappin to the deez, like what I rap they should believe?

Like ever verse is a charge, for every hurt there's a scar

I never once tried to hurt cha'll

I'm just tryna do me, sell a few CD's

Buy land in Miami and cop a new B come on!

 

[LUClEN]

How much credit should he be getting?