Does america have a proble with masculinity?

[SolemnSauce]

It's an advertising angle to make companies appear subservient to you. Its intentional, but not in the way yall might think.

 

[DarthRozay]

Fragile masculinity is a problem, and companies use it to their advantage.

why do you think there are so many products that are "For MEN!" or "For Women"? even products that have no effect when used by one gender or another, like toothbrushes and shit?

 

[Shuffington]

Yes... but on the flip side you have the Old Spice commercials which are hyper Masculine,

or the Dos Equis guy, or the Miller High Life guy who died not to long ago.

Maybe you need to watch more sports.

 

[SolemnSauce]

Peep this, the old strategy of companies used to view Americans as mostly confident and secure. So they appealed to what most people want..i.e "the guys wanna be him and the girls want to be with him"..that's when companies respected the consumer.

Now, the companies basically view you as pussy. So they use pitchmen that appear more pussy than you. So you feel like In the relationship with the company, you are in charge. I.e. Those sprint commercials where millennials are faux breaking up with their phone companies. As tho they are the Alpha in the relationship.

And they do this because they don't respect you and view this generation as pussy. So they ain't tryna make you pussy. They're callin you pussy, if your gonna be mad. Be mad at that

 

[Ajackson17]

A beta is the second in line to be Alpha if the old Alpha either dies or gets beaten or kicked out or injured. Basically a Vice-President.

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

I think we do. America's wants consumers. Most men (at least those I associate with) are practical. The beta, effeminate males appear to be more about shopping, appearance, and being seen. It's cool right now to sell to that crowd.

INTERESTING!

 

[Plutarch]

A beta is the second in line to be Alpha if the old Alpha either dies or gets beaten or kicked out or injured. Basically a Vice-President.

I always wondered about this. I don't know too much about the Greek alphabet, but wouldn't the better term be "omega"? Even though omega sounds tougher than beta, imo.

 

[deadeye]

There's definitely a push to emasculate men.

Even saw a commercial that featured a father teaching his daughter how to shave his legs..............BY SHAVING HIS OWN LEGS with her:


And I thought the commercial with the father doing cheers with his daughter was too far:


Angel Soft just took it to another level.

 

[Kwan Dai]

There's definitely a push to emasculate men.

Even saw a commercial that featured a father teaching his daughter how to shave his legs..............BY SHAVING HIS OWN LEGS with her:


And I thought the commercial with the father doing cheers with his daughter was too far:


Angel Soft just took it to another level.

Yo. LMAO. I have seen the joint with homey and his daughter many times and I am conflicted. Like I get the point but I have always come away thinking why they go so super chi chi man.

 

[The_Jackal]

A beta is the second in line to be Alpha if the old Alpha either dies or gets beaten or kicked out or injured. Basically a Vice-President.

I always wondered about this. I don't know too much about the Greek alphabet, but wouldn't the better term be "omega"? Even though omega sounds tougher than beta, imo.

No. Omega literally means "Big O" but since it is the last letter in the Greek alphabet it usually is used in a way to mean the end. Like saying God is Alpha (beginning the first letter) and Omega (the end the last letter.)

 

[CapitalB]

There's definitely a push to emasculate men.

Even saw a commercial that featured a father teaching his daughter how to shave his legs..............BY SHAVING HIS OWN LEGS with her:


And I thought the commercial with the father doing cheers with his daughter was too far:


Angel Soft just took it to another level.

my daughter wont be no cheerleader..

but i wish a nigga would say somethin bout me playin dressup wit her and our lil tea parties. lmmfao

aint nothin wrong wit pops cheerin wit his daughter..

 

[desertrain10]

There's definitely a push to emasculate men.

Even saw a commercial that featured a father teaching his daughter how to shave his legs..............BY SHAVING HIS OWN LEGS with her:


And I thought the commercial with the father doing cheers with his daughter was too far:


Angel Soft just took it to another level.

my daughter wont be no cheerleader..

but i wish a nigga would say somethin bout me playin dressup wit her and our lil tea parties. lmmfao

aint nothin wrong wit pops cheerin wit his daughter..

right

there is nothing wrong with those ads

i can remember my dad would crawl into my sheet tent and watch care bears with me sipping "tea"

 

[manofmorehouse]

There's definitely a push to make men more feminine but I think that largely is the fault of us men. Hear me out...

It's a lot of niggas out here that ain't shit as fathers. That may be a direct result of them having ain't shit dads. All that does is make women the primary role model for boys coming into manhood in single mother homes. A woman can never teach a man to be a man. She'll give him tips on what she considers manhood, which generally tends to either be feminine or way over the top masculine.

With that comes either a Drake type nigga or a nigga that thinks not crying and being hyper aggressive is what manhood means. All bullshit aside, my cousins football team had no men outside of my cousin at practice and at the games. What u think these little boys are going to turn into??

 

[Ip man]

Of course there is a conspiracy against alpha male on the media trying to faggotise everybody. I want to know what male nigga thought:

"Damn, them skinny jeans look hot, I think I should wear it"

"Damn, gotta do my eyebrows now to stay hot"

"Damn, i betta start twerking so these bishes know what's up"

"Oh shit, that man purse matches with my uggs"...

and still think he's portraying an alpha male - the definition of a real nigga. Nah.

 

[Ip man]

some of ya'll old uncles and grandads out here like

 

[desertrain10]

the issue is with our culture's narrow definition of masculinity

and how our boys and men live under this persistent pressure to constantly be proving their manhood and warding off anything considered feminine or emasculating

or they grow up with a sense of entitlement and authority over women’s bodies and agency

my post with be either ignored or buried, but if we are being real (along with a lot of other shit) its one of the big drivers of violence within our communities

 

[Plutarch]

the issue is with our culture's narrow definition of masculinity

and how our boys and men live under this persistent pressure to constantly be proving their manhood and warding off anything considered feminine or emasculating

or they grow up with a sense of entitlement and authority over women’s bodies and agency

my post with be either ignored or buried, but if we are being real (along with a lot of other shit) its one of the big drivers of violence within our communities

Isn't this just the long version of saying "toxic masculinity"?

And like others have noted, isn't this idea of toxic masculinity being resisted by a trend, whether insidious or innocuous, that involves men embracing femininity, which is a point to the premise of this thread?

 

[Ip man]

the issue is with our culture's narrow definition of masculinity

and how our boys and men live under this persistent pressure to constantly be proving their manhood and warding off anything considered feminine or emasculating

or they grow up with a sense of entitlement and authority over women’s bodies and agency

my post with be either ignored or buried, but if we are being real (along with a lot of other shit) its one of the big drivers of violence within our communities

It also has to do with the lack of a positive male figure at home to teach and lead.

 

[desertrain10]

the issue is with our culture's narrow definition of masculinity

and how our boys and men live under this persistent pressure to constantly be proving their manhood and warding off anything considered feminine or emasculating

or they grow up with a sense of entitlement and authority over women’s bodies and agency

my post with be either ignored or buried, but if we are being real (along with a lot of other shit) its one of the big drivers of violence within our communities

Isn't this just the long version of saying "toxic masculinity"?

And like others have noted, isn't this idea of toxic masculinity being resisted by a trend, whether insidious or innocuous, that involves men embracing femininity, which is a point to the premise of this thread?

t/s posed the question does america has a problem with masculinity....

or rather is there an effort being made to demonize or emasculate men?

i don't believe that to be the case.... and I'd argue society still largely caters to white, heterosexual men...

i do believe though that more and more ppl are seeing how our culture's definition of masculinity is limiting and there has been a growing push to expand on what it means to be a man, which i obviously believe is a good thing

and considering gender, unlike sex, is malleable and varies across cultures and generations ...there is a possibility for change ...

if you really think about it, time and technological advances have done more to "emasculate" men than anything else, in the sense that men aren't expected or required to do what prior generations of men were

 

[jono]

the issue is with our culture's narrow definition of masculinity

and how our boys and men live under this persistent pressure to constantly be proving their manhood and warding off anything considered feminine or emasculating

or they grow up with a sense of entitlement and authority over women’s bodies and agency

my post with be either ignored or buried, but if we are being real (along with a lot of other shit) its one of the big drivers of violence within our communities

I had no intention of getting involved with this thread but I'll add here that the sense of entitlement extends to having a sense of entitlement in general.

Anyone worried about their masculinity or masculinity in general is probably insecure as fuck already.