Do you believe proper grammar equals intelligence

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Idi Amin Dada;4082490 said:
Yes it does. You'd be hard pressed to find an unintelligent success. In anything, you must have the capacity to learn.

u also need to capacity to EXECUTE!

i know alot of know it all good for nothins..
so AGAIN.. intelligence doesnt equate to success...

u can know everything.. but if u dont APPLY it what u get??
 
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fiat_money;4082384 said:
Yes, that is exactly what I believe.

For it is impossible for one to be intelligent without having excellent grammar.

Unless you can find the grammatical error I made in this post, you are unintelligent.

damn im unintelligence
 
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IntellectualViolence;4082497 said:
language is no more than symbols used to convey certain concepts...

using slang doesn't mean anything... its just how some folks communicate... y'all been programmed to feel superior about the way y'all communicate... its quite humorous...

"my words are proper" lol...

stfu...
I understand what youre saying to an extent but I gotta disagree. All races have a slang or a way that they speak when amongst themselves or in relaxed, casual settings, but for whatever reason younger generations feel we should be able to talk in the boardroom the same way we speak on the block. If I take my child to the doctor, I dont want the doctor to say 'its like this b, it just is what it is folk, we gotta take the young bull tonsils out on some outta there shit'. If I go see my accountant, I dont want that motherfucker to try and sound cool when he says I just lost 20 grand in a ponzi scheme or some shit, my banker using slang when they call and say im a victim of predatory lending and my mortgage payment just doubled. Nigguhs need to grow up....
 
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CapitalB;4082501 said:
u also need to capacity to EXECUTE!

i know alot of know it all good for nothins..
so AGAIN.. intelligence doesnt equate to success...

Yeah, I didn't pay attention to what you said.

Intelligence doesn't equal success, but a successful person is always intelligent.

Don't have to be classicly educated, or at all educated. But in anything you have to have the capacity to learn.

That's why I get annoyed when people call artists who make popular records bad artists. If everyone could come out and sell 5 mil, wouldn't they? Intelligence is so much broader than what we view it as.

I remember reading a book about Dave from Wendy's how he was a man who flunked outta high school surrounded by Harvard MBAs in his board room. School just isn't for everyone. I'm sure if I had no choice but to just go for it, I could. I'm that confident, but school, for me anyways, is so much easier. I didn't go to school for an education, I went and am going for the degree. You get your education on your own.
 
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heavyrelish;4082516 said:
I understand what youre saying to an extent but I gotta disagree. All races have a slang or a way that they speak when amongst themselves or in relaxed, casual settings, but for whatever reason younger generations feel we should be able to talk in the boardroom the same way we speak on the block. If I take my child to the doctor, I dont want the doctor to say 'its like this b, it just is what it is folk, we gotta take the young bull tonsils out on some outta there shit'. If I go see my accountant, I dont want that motherfucker to try and sound cool when he says I just lost 20 grand in a ponzi scheme or some shit, my banker using slang when they call and say im a victim of predatory lending and my mortgage payment just doubled. Nigguhs need to grow up....

i understand what ur sayin..
and to me thats whats wrong with society..

they so focused on the words they miss the message..
me personally.. i dont care how u say it.. all im concerned with is what ur sayin..

a master of words is a master manipulator..
wait... that was jus too much game right there. lol
 
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IntellectualViolence;4082497 said:
language is no more than symbols used to convey certain concepts...
using slang doesn't mean anything... its just how some folks communicate... y'all been programmed to feel superior about the way y'all communicate... its quite humorous...
"my words are proper" lol...
stfu...

This ol' Comm. Studies ass nigga here. haha. That was one of my majors and it's DRILLED into you what a language is.

"A conventional system of signs and symbols." I wrote a paper arguing in favor of the Oakland school board decision to put ebonics in schools. It is a language. Arguably a pigeon language of English, but a language none the less with it's own rules and words. Words an and of themselves have no meaning. We give them meaning.
 
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capitalb;4082524 said:
i understand what ur sayin..
And to me thats whats wrong with society..

They so focused on the words they miss the message..
Me personally.. I dont care how u say it.. All im concerned with is what ur sayin..

A master of words is a master manipulator..
Wait... That was jus too much game right there. Lol

#whyyouwearscarveswhenyouaintgotnoneck?
 
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Its certain things u do in youth that u think are acceptable that are fucking corny, b. I used to get on the train, stinking like weed, pint of henny in my back pocket, id run up on a chick and talk so much slang to her and think that i was what it was. Now I c that shit on the train nd I just laugh at youngins. Its a part of being young, I understand. Its like if u got big bread, u can go into the bank and talk to the customer service associate like Ghostface if u want. But when your account is negative 300 dollars and u go in there slang heavy, theyre just like, this dumb ass nigguh. I know thats how I would look at a muthafucka..
 
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Idi Amin Dada;4082520 said:
Yeah, I didn't pay attention to what you said.

Intelligence doesn't equal success, but a successful person is always intelligent.

Don't have to be classicly educated, or at all educated. But in anything you have to have the capacity to learn.

That's why I get annoyed when people call artists who make popular records bad artists. If everyone could come out and sell 5 mil, wouldn't they? Intelligence is so much broader than what we view it as.

I remember reading a book about Dave from Wendy's how he was a man who flunked outta high school surrounded by Harvard MBAs in his board room. School just isn't for everyone. I'm sure if I had no choice but to just go for it, I could. I'm that confident, but school, for me anyways, is so much easier. I didn't go to school for an education, I went and am going for the degree. You get your education on your own.

life is the best teacher..
ull learn alot livin and watchin others live

education is education ..and im all for it..
im against the institution of it though..

but yeh.. u do need the capacity to learn and WANT to learn.. and then be able to apply it..
that Kanye skits comes to mind with this thread.. about havin all them diploma's and gettin burried with them... and can do time tables really fast! hahaha
 
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thechoice2;4082539 said:
lol @ saying it shows education, a nigga was able to type with good grammar since the 5th grade. Does that mean you consider a 5th grader to be educated?

If you're still synthesizing thoughts at a 5th grade level bruh......

Damn.
 
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IntellectualViolence;4082544 said:
these cats just like to feel superior to the next man...

"me smart, no use slang!"

lol...

Nah, but u gotta know how/when to flip it and bounce it.
 
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heavyrelish;4082551 said:
Nah, but u gotta know how/when to flip it and bounce it.

This is why proper english doesn't denote intelligence. Especially on the internet like someone else pointed out. But if they never use anything but slang like someone else said, they might be a redneck.
 
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IntellectualViolence;4082544 said:
these cats just like to feel superior to the next man...
"me smart, no use slang!"
lol...

it's not about using slang, it's about ONLY being able to communicate using slang...everybody uses slang...it's natural...but the more ways you can communicate the better off you are...if you can only speak in a proper context you get almost nowhere in life either...there's a bunch of people with degrees up the ass but can't get nowhere in life simply because the only way they can communicate to people is in what people consider a "proper" manner and nobody is that way 24/7, everybody has a relaxed way of speaking it's called being social...hell not even in a workplace environment are people like that the majority of the time...but if you only have one way of communicating, you're not getting too far
 
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blackrain;4082561 said:
it's not about using slang, it's about ONLY being able to communicate using slang...everybody uses slang...it's natural...but the more ways you can communicate the better off you are...if you can only speak in a proper context you get almost nowhere in life either...there's a bunch of people with degrees up the ass but can't get nowhere in life simply because the only way they can communicate to people is in what people consider a "proper" manner and nobody is that way 24/7, everybody has a relaxed way of speaking it's called being social...hell not even in a workplace environment are people like that the majority of the time...but if you only have one way of communicating, you're not getting too far

perfect.....
 
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Kirk;4082549 said:
if your appendix is exploding, do you want a surgeon to say "ayo dun, the streets was my teacha, ima heal you up hella fast"?

or do you want him to say "I have a doctorate from Johns Hopkins University."?

for real, do people understand that there are useful and necessary degrees from college that show and prove a person is qualified to do their job? fuck kanye west.

CapitalB;4082538 said:
but yeh.. u do need the capacity to learn and WANT to learn.. and then be able to apply it..

however or wherever u learn it long as u know how to do it..

be surprised how many cheat/skate they way through college for a degree..
ask them 5 yrs later what they learned..
 
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Kirk;4082549 said:
if your appendix is exploding, do you want a surgeon to say "ayo dun, the streets was my teacha, ima heal you up hella fast"?

or do you want him to say "I have a doctorate from Johns Hopkins University."?

for real, do people understand that there are useful and necessary degrees from college that show and prove a person is qualified to do their job? fuck kanye west.

I think you're confusing expertise with intelligence.

If someone doesn't learn to be a surgeon, they can never be expected to be a master surgeon. This thread isn't a debate on IF they learn, it's HOW they learn. Would I feel more comfortable with a trained surgeon from Hopkins? Of course, who wouldn't? It's the society we live in, and I can trust the product produced by that institution. However, that's not to say an autodidact surgeon can't be just as proficient. He would simply have to prove it. The point of the degree is to prove you have the knowledge(not even in some cases). Cuz to be honest, the same shit you learn in a class room you can learn for free at a library, but no one will know that you know it.
 
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Having a limited vocabulary doesn't equate to being unintelligent. But it's always good to know more than 1-3-4 different ways to convey the same thought. That's all articulation really is.

Then you have other things like enunciation, vernacular, dialect, accent that people equate into gauging intelligence.

I say all this shit is subjective depending on what standard of education you set as being the bar.
 
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