Do You Believe In God?

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Osirus_Jenkins;6692156 said:
Mr.Forte;6692139 said:
Osirus_Jenkins;6692112 said:
Mr.Forte;6692067 said:
Dont sell your soul people, because you cant buy it back. Take what Dave Chappelle did, his mind is at peace now. He said "fuck yall evil muthafuckas with your hidden agendas" I dont want to be apart of your click (secret society)

Our soul is not ours to sell.

Yes it is.

No it isn't. Nothing is ours to sell. God owns our souls, because he is the only one that in the end can do with them as the Divine Creator pleases.

You make your own decisions, if you choose the "Dark Side" that`s on your ass. Deal with the consequences.
 
God - creates "free will", wants you to use it but gets mad when you do, then he doesn't want you to use it. Wants you to be his slave, for no reason other than pride.

He tells you to not do shit, calls this list Commandments, whether it's 10 or 600, who cares. He doesn't follow this list, not at all. He gets a pass.

He murders millions for using their free will. He doesn't allow anyone to believe what they want. He asks his followers to kill men, children and "impure women". (the pure women, they can keep for themselves)

He is sexist; telling women they ain't shit and need to be submissive and can't preach the word.

Dude said slavery was cool and you can even kill your slave if they step out of line.

Dude said having multiple women was cool, too.

Devil- encourages free will and thinking for ones self.

Doesn't kill anyone

Doesn't hate anyone

The bad guy sounds like God, tbh. It makes no sense to think otherwise.

Flip these roles to an actor, bet you'd root for the devils characteristics rather than gods.

You guys just stay blind to gods bullshit because "god" is the title, therefore, god gets a pass and can do no wrong.

 
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God is omnipotent and all knowing, so he creates an angel call Lucifer who would then go on to try to over throw him and eventually will be almost as powerful as him. Doesn't sound too omnipotent to me. smh
 
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Shizlansky;6692182 said:
zombie;6692144 said:
I always tell people if you can't find evidence of god, angels, spirits then look for evidence of the devil, demons and negative energy beings. They are easier to find and once you find them you will be begging for god to save you.

Your god sounds like a dead beat dad.

Not being there for his kids when they need him or can't help themselves.

GOD is not genie.
 
All I'm saying is most ppl believe based on where they grew up and who was raising them. Any Christian.here can easily.have been defending Muslims.had they been born in the middle east.

Religion is merely tradition in most cases.
 
zombie;6692203 said:
Shizlansky;6692182 said:
zombie;6692144 said:
I always tell people if you can't find evidence of god, angels, spirits then look for evidence of the devil, demons and negative energy beings. They are easier to find and once you find them you will be begging for god to save you.

Your god sounds like a dead beat dad.

Not being there for his kids when they need him or can't help themselves.

GOD is not genie.

Really?

He sure was in the bible..
 
Mr.Forte;6692183 said:
Osirus_Jenkins;6692156 said:
Mr.Forte;6692139 said:
Osirus_Jenkins;6692112 said:
Mr.Forte;6692067 said:
Dont sell your soul people, because you cant buy it back. Take what Dave Chappelle did, his mind is at peace now. He said "fuck yall evil muthafuckas with your hidden agendas" I dont want to be apart of your click (secret society)

Our soul is not ours to sell.

Yes it is.

No it isn't. Nothing is ours to sell. God owns our souls, because he is the only one that in the end can do with them as the Divine Creator pleases.

You make your own decisions, if you choose the "Dark Side" that`s on your ass. Deal with the consequences.

Innocent people die everyday regardless of their beliefs

 
zombie;6692203 said:
Shizlansky;6692182 said:
zombie;6692144 said:
I always tell people if you can't find evidence of god, angels, spirits then look for evidence of the devil, demons and negative energy beings. They are easier to find and once you find them you will be begging for god to save you.

Your god sounds like a dead beat dad.

Not being there for his kids when they need him or can't help themselves.

GOD is not genie.

You do know "genie" stands for devil in arab right (gen)
 
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VIBE;6692184 said:
God - creates "free will", wants you to use it but gets mad when you do, then he doesn't want you to use it. Wants you to be his slave, for no reason other than pride.

He tells you to not do shit, calls this list Commandments, whether it's 10 or 600, who cares. He doesn't follow this list, not at all. He gets a pass.

He murders millions for using their free will. He doesn't allow anyone to believe what they want. He asks his followers to kill men, children and "impure women". (the pure women, they can keep for themselves)

He is sexist; telling women they ain't shit and need to be submissive and can't preach the word.

Dude said slavery was cool and you can even kill your slave if they step out of line.

Dude said having multiple women was cool, too.

Devil- encourages free will and thinking for ones self.

Doesn't kill anyone

Doesn't hate anyone

The bad guy sounds like God, tbh. It makes no sense to think otherwise.

Flip these roles to an actor, bet you'd root for the devils characteristics rather than gods.

You guys just stay blind to gods bullshit because "god" is the title, therefore, god gets a pass and can do no wrong.

lol @ the devil not killing anyone and not hating anyone...

but heres my thing with you... you try and pull that "free will" argument every thread like this.. god basically knows not all are going 2 believe/follow him.. he does say that the people that believe will have everlasting life if you believe in him.. if you dont believe that then do you... jus understand yo consequences..
 
Mr.Forte;6692216 said:
zombie;6692203 said:
Shizlansky;6692182 said:
zombie;6692144 said:
I always tell people if you can't find evidence of god, angels, spirits then look for evidence of the devil, demons and negative energy beings. They are easier to find and once you find them you will be begging for god to save you.

Your god sounds like a dead beat dad.

Not being there for his kids when they need him or can't help themselves.

GOD is not genie.

You do no "genie" stands for devil in arab right (gen)

I mean to say that god does not just give wishes because we ask for them.
 
usmarin3;6692192 said:
God is omnipotent and all knowing, so he creates an angel call Lucifer who would then go on to try to over throw him and eventually will be almost as powerful as him. Doesn't sound too omnipotent to me. smh

god created a lucifer and knew he could have turned evil but god does not judge his creations based on their potentialities but based on their actualities.
 
Go figure;6692213 said:
Mr.Forte;6692183 said:
Osirus_Jenkins;6692156 said:
Mr.Forte;6692139 said:
Osirus_Jenkins;6692112 said:
Mr.Forte;6692067 said:
Dont sell your soul people, because you cant buy it back. Take what Dave Chappelle did, his mind is at peace now. He said "fuck yall evil muthafuckas with your hidden agendas" I dont want to be apart of your click (secret society)

Our soul is not ours to sell.

Yes it is.

No it isn't. Nothing is ours to sell. God owns our souls, because he is the only one that in the end can do with them as the Divine Creator pleases.

You make your own decisions, if you choose the "Dark Side" that`s on your ass. Deal with the consequences.

Innocent people die everyday regardless of their beliefs

We live in an evil world.

 
I doubt 500 years from now anyone will even believe in organize religion. Notice how everyday the church losens up on their rules (gay marriage, science, premarital sex, sexism,etc). Organize religion is archaic, it may have been cool 2000 years ago when we didn't know shit but not now.

I personally feel the more we study the Universe and our brains, the better we will be as a race. To me eventually we will be able to tap into the Universe through meditation. I truly believe we all have a connection to each other and the energy we put out (good or bad) is what we get back. I believe that Earth and Universe is a living being, what we do to each other affects it.
 
VIBE;6692184 said:
God - creates "free will", wants you to use it but gets mad when you do, then he doesn't want you to use it. Wants you to be his slave, for no reason other than pride.

He tells you to not do shit, calls this list Commandments, whether it's 10 or 600, who cares. He doesn't follow this list, not at all. He gets a pass.

He murders millions for using their free will. He doesn't allow anyone to believe what they want. He asks his followers to kill men, children and "impure women". (the pure women, they can keep for themselves)

He is sexist; telling women they ain't shit and need to be submissive and can't preach the word.

Dude said slavery was cool and you can even kill your slave if they step out of line.

Dude said having multiple women was cool, too.

Devil- encourages free will and thinking for ones self.

Doesn't kill anyone

Doesn't hate anyone

The bad guy sounds like God, tbh. It makes no sense to think otherwise.

Flip these roles to an actor, bet you'd root for the devils characteristics rather than gods.

You guys just stay blind to gods bullshit because "god" is the title, therefore, god gets a pass and can do no wrong.

I don't agree with your part on the concept of the devil. Hitler didn't physically kill millions of Jews but it was done by his influence.

If I believed in the bible I would see gods ways as that of a father. Your father doesn't wanna control u but he wants u to make the riggt choices and u get punished when u do something wrong. At the same time he won't hold ur hand thru everything. that's my understanding of it.

My problem is those stories are hard to believe so they must be metaphorical but the history of the religion and the way its been watered.down and organized and the fact that there ain't shit for evidence I can't live based on that.
 
damobb2deep;6692217 said:
VIBE;6692184 said:
God - creates "free will", wants you to use it but gets mad when you do, then he doesn't want you to use it. Wants you to be his slave, for no reason other than pride.

He tells you to not do shit, calls this list Commandments, whether it's 10 or 600, who cares. He doesn't follow this list, not at all. He gets a pass.

He murders millions for using their free will. He doesn't allow anyone to believe what they want. He asks his followers to kill men, children and "impure women". (the pure women, they can keep for themselves)

He is sexist; telling women they ain't shit and need to be submissive and can't preach the word.

Dude said slavery was cool and you can even kill your slave if they step out of line.

Dude said having multiple women was cool, too.

Devil- encourages free will and thinking for ones self.

Doesn't kill anyone

Doesn't hate anyone

The bad guy sounds like God, tbh. It makes no sense to think otherwise.

Flip these roles to an actor, bet you'd root for the devils characteristics rather than gods.

You guys just stay blind to gods bullshit because "god" is the title, therefore, god gets a pass and can do no wrong.

lol @ the devil not killing anyone and not hating anyone...

but heres my thing with you... you try and pull that "free will" argument every thread like this.. god basically knows not all are going 2 believe/follow him.. he does say that the people that believe will have everlasting life if you believe in him.. if you dont believe that then do you... jus understand yo consequences..

The only record that the devil has of murder is in the book of Job, where I think 10 people are killed.

Here, people use this to really make the devil the villain, but he did this under the okay from who? GOD.

God was essentially making the devil his hitman.

Do we just blame the hitman? Or do we also blame who hired the hitman?

Other than that, the devil isn't a bad dude.

As for the "free will", I find it weird that a god who knows everything, still gets pissed at them for shit they do. It's wack as fuck.

 
kai;6692045 said:
yes and no. i think logically i have a lot of doubt, but i also feel a very strong sense of spirituality and just a sense of something greater to me. in the end, i think i believe in a god because i want to

SO BASICALLY, YOU'RE A MUSLIM THAT DOESNT BELIEVE IN GOD (ALLAH)?? WOW...

THAT EXPLAINS ALOT
 
Go figure;6692238 said:
VIBE;6692184 said:
God - creates "free will", wants you to use it but gets mad when you do, then he doesn't want you to use it. Wants you to be his slave, for no reason other than pride.

He tells you to not do shit, calls this list Commandments, whether it's 10 or 600, who cares. He doesn't follow this list, not at all. He gets a pass.

He murders millions for using their free will. He doesn't allow anyone to believe what they want. He asks his followers to kill men, children and "impure women". (the pure women, they can keep for themselves)

He is sexist; telling women they ain't shit and need to be submissive and can't preach the word.

Dude said slavery was cool and you can even kill your slave if they step out of line.

Dude said having multiple women was cool, too.

Devil- encourages free will and thinking for ones self.

Doesn't kill anyone

Doesn't hate anyone

The bad guy sounds like God, tbh. It makes no sense to think otherwise.

Flip these roles to an actor, bet you'd root for the devils characteristics rather than gods.

You guys just stay blind to gods bullshit because "god" is the title, therefore, god gets a pass and can do no wrong.

I don't agree with your part on the concept of the devil. Hitler didn't physically kill millions of Jews but it was done by his influence.

If I believed in the bible I would see gods ways as that of a father. Your father doesn't wanna control u but he wants u to make the riggt choices and u get punished when u do something wrong. At the same time he won't hold ur hand thru everything. that's my understanding of it.

My problem is those stories are hard to believe so they must be metaphorical but the history of the religion and the way its been watered.down and organized and the fact that there ain't shit for evidence I can't live based on that.

Hitlers words brainwashed millions to believe and accept that Jews were shit and needed to be murdered. He didn't necessarily kill anyone himself. Same with Charles Manson.

God did the same. Just with his people and "sinners".

We can say those guys are "bad" and "immoral", but we don't view god the same way? LOL nah, that's hypocrisy and ignorance

 

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