Do you believe dinosaurs existed?

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Conscious__Nkechi;3602270 said:
Might or must? Just curious as to what your answer would be.
And how would you explain sharks? They're known to have existed prior to dinosaurs and still do 'til this very day. How could this be so if this fairly new idea that the earth is millions of years old is just bogus?

Might or must, read into it what you like.

Sharks exist today. What did they do to survive while dino's became extinct?
 
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kai_valya;3602241 said:
no, it came about because radiometric dating which is based on the radioactive decay of certain isotopes says the oldest rocks on the planet are approximately 4.54 billion years old. so unless you don't believe in isotopes, radioactive decay, chemistry, biology, physics or any science for that matter, then i don't see how you don't believe the evidence presented to you.

threads like this really make me see why america is ranked below mexico in terms of education. have you seriously studied or looked at any of this stuff you claim to be lies

If you use the word approximately or just about.....You are unsure and are not in posession of a fact.

So what you are stating is closer to hypothesis....and educated guess based on research

So its not that we don't believe in science, we just don't believe in the science presented to us.

Just because you've been educated to do something doesn't mean that the way you're applying your practice is correct.
 
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What's funny is that I know a lot of christians who do believe dinosaurs existed. Some

of them believe they co-existed early on. From my understanding, the term dinosaur

was first coined in 1841 or 1842 by scientist richard owen. The bible as we know it

was written well before the 1800s.
 
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Conscious__Nkechi;3602325 said:
Come on man, can't be quoting Damian and then following it up by posting this ironic statement.

What does that have to do with anything lol the guy hasnt quoted any scholars, enclopedias, he ain't provide any facts,

he just quotes me and says shit he would never say to my face and that have nothing to do with the subject of "Do you believe if Dinosaurs Existed".

He should make a thread called "how I feel about E. Nigma" otherwise get off my dick ya know

You and fiat and Kai are coming with it, but when you start dissin your showing you have no sort of information or eloquence to prove your point.
 
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Generic;3602354 said:
What's funny is that I know a lot of christians who do believe dinosaurs existed. Some

of them believe they co-existed early on. From my understanding, the term dinosaur

was first coined in 1841 or 1842 by scientist richard owen. The bible as we know it

was written well before the 1800s.

How many fucking times have I said the fossils havent been discovered until the 19th century lol ahhhhh man!
 
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kai_valya;3602352 said:
no darling, they're not mad ideas if the concrete evidence is right there. do you believe elements and atoms exist? do you believe that certain atoms have different number of neutrons (that's what an isotope is)? you don't have to just believe, it's been proven. if you want to read up on the history of chemistry you would see how. well you may not know, but there is a property called radioactive decay, where a material degrades at a specific rate forever. so if we know what the rate of radioactive decay is, we can trace back to see how old a material is.

sweetie, i can not explain basic chemistry in one post to you. i would really suggest you take a class or something, because sheer ignorance is not becoming. i actually do believe in god, but a belief in god does not negate scientific truth.

yes, I believe that science can help explain some things but science does not explain it all. It can help lead to hypothesis and theories and such, but at the end of the day we get close guestimates, not facts. My point is I don't accept everything science or man presents as facts. Cardon dating goes back about 50/ 60 thousand years while there are other methods that go further, none can prove dinosaurs to me when i already don't accept "fossils" knowing they create them in a lab everyday from a bone that was never a dino to begin with.
 
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kai_valya;3602381 said:
no, an approximation is just that. just like i am approximately 5'5". hun, if you truly wanted to you could go see for yourself how radiometric dating works, science is not something kept away in secret from the masses.

you must be unsure of your own height lol
 
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Ms Eudoxie;3602336 said:
Might or must, read into it what you like.

Sharks exist today. What did they do to survive while dino's became extinct?

I'm not reading into anything, I can't assume your opinion for you. I was simply asking a valid question to hear what that opinion might be......
 
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kai_valya;3602381 said:
no, an approximation is just that. just like i am approximately 5'5". hun, if you truly wanted to you could go see for yourself how radiometric dating works, science is not something kept away in secret from the masses.

I think what Edgar Cayce has to say about the subject is closer to the truth than what Scientist are saying.

And no, you aren't appoximately 5'5.

You are either 5'5 or your not.

You maybe approximately 5'5/5'6 with sneakers or sandals on is the appropriate statement

Approximate is like saying close to
 
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Ms Eudoxie;3602413 said:
yes, I believe that science can help explain some things but science does not explain it all. It can help lead to hypothesis and theories and such, but at the end of the day we get close guestimates, not facts. My point is I don't accept everything science or man presents as facts. Cardon dating goes back about 50/ 60 thousand years while there are other methods that go further, none can prove dinosaurs to me when i already don't accept "fossils" knowing they create them in a lab everyday.

Interesting.
If that is so, why is it so hard to believe in/not deny the possibility of things that you cannot see or touch having existed/existing?
 
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edwardnigma;3602316 said:
Still no facts to contribute? Still nothing valid to say but to diss?

What you want attention?

Only thing factual was the dinosaur bones in the museums being replicas.
It's pretty well known that dino fossils were discovered way before then,
it wasn't until in 1841 that richard owen realized that these fossils were
distinct from the teeth or bones of any living creature. He dubbed the
group "Dinosauria", which means terrible lizards. People before
then didn't call the bones, dinosaur bones.
 
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edwardnigma;3602376 said:
What does that have to do with anything lol the guy hasnt quoted any scholars, enclopedias, he ain't provide any facts,

he just quotes me and says shit he would never say to my face and that have nothing to do with the subject of "Do you believe if Dinosaurs Existed".

He should make a thread called "how I feel about E. Nigma" otherwise get off my dick ya know

You and fiat and Kai are coming with it, but when you start dissin your showing you have no sort of information or eloquence to prove your point.

That's what I am saying, the disses/name calling doesn't further prove a point any more than if a discussion/debate were to be held by solely presenting facts, opinions and theories. And the irony was with the "who the fuck are you" comment. Who the *bleep* are any of us?

"I am intelligent, because I know that I know nothing."

I'm just saying, in the grand scheme of things, we have to know that this quote is truth.
 
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kai_valya;3602425 said:
perhaps them being in the ocean when a meteor struck the surface of the earth helped some. and sharks as we know them today are not the same sharks that existed in the dinosaurs time, they have evolved. don't tell me you don't believe in evolution also.

i wanna ask all these skeptics in here, what's the highest level of scientific education you have received? have any of y'all taking a science course in college or anything?

.....perhaps. Can be said for the entire convo tho. What did the former sharks look like and how did the scientists come up with their image?
 
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Conscious__Nkechi;3602436 said:
Interesting.
If that is so, why is it so hard to believe in/not deny the possibility of things that you cannot see or touch having existed/existing?

I can't see air, parasites, particles with the naked eye but these things can be proven in any lab. It;s the difference between facts and theories.
 
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Generic;3602441 said:
Only thing factual was the dinosaur bones in the museums being replicas.

It's pretty well know that dino fossils were discovered way before then,

it wasn't until in 1841 that richard owen realized that these fossils were

distinct from the teeth or bones of any living creature. He dubbed the

group "Dinosauria", which means terrible lizards. People before

then didn't call the bones, dinosaur bones.

Dinosaur is a word that cause Hysteria. TERRIBLE LIZARD

Like I said before, I believe Dinosaurs is an exaggeration of the truth.

There once was a time when alot of the creatures today were much bigger.

The Lizards were not that big, maybe the size of a human today, biggest was the ancestor to the elephant. Even humans, being 10 to `12 ft tall were in abundance.

I don't know why everyone is trippin. I didn't say anything outlandish but Scientist exaggerated a story.

Big Lizards and Birds didnt fucking rule the earth, everything was fucking bigger, and the Big People killed the big animals.

Thats so primitive and easy to understand.

If you can believe in Dragons and you can't believe that there were people taller then Andre the Giant then I just dont get that logic lol

why couldn't more creatures other than Lizrards have been humongous as well? Why do you peolpe think thats crazy

Because a scientist aint say so......yet?
 
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kai_valya;3602488 said:
i'm guessing the answer to my question at the end is none huh? sweetie, go and take a science class please for all our sakes.

this thread has made me so sad. hopefully going to my microbio class can make me feel a little better.

Why skid around a simple question. Was that a factual statement you made or just another assumption, guesstimate, etc.
 
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