DO YOU "ACCEPT" PEOPLE COMING OUT? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT LIFE?

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The Lonious Monk;5760384 said:
Wonder Girl ;5760348 said:
The point of telling everyone is to Let the people around you know about the life you may or may not have been hiding.

I dont think the media pushes this to,make the world accept gayness, but to let people know its okay to be who you are.

I don't agree with that. The media is most definitely trying to make the world accept gayness. If it was just a matter of letting people know it's okay to be who you are, they'd just find ways to make that general statement. Instead, they push the gay agenda. It's one thing to talk about gay right in a political setting. It's another thing to flood every media outlet with conversation about a gay dude making it known that he's gay.

I don't know what Collins' reason was for making the announcement, but that's definitely the media's agenda. They won't be happy until they can mention the word "gay" and everybody starts clapping. People have every right to not agree or think that shit is unnatural.

And some of the people who made public statements supporting him, including the Obamas, are probably doing that shit to further their own agendas.
 
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mryounggun;5760392 said:
DROCRAZY;5760375 said:
mryounggun;5760329 said:
I'm not sure why people think being gay is a choice. Just MsSouthern said, nobody chooses to be straight. It's just in your nature. Nobody taught you to be attracted to women. You just are. Same for niggas who are gay. They didn't wake up one day and say 'I'm going to be attracted to men now.'. They just are. Shit seems pretty clear to me.

SO YOU TELLING ME THAT KIDS/TEENS AINT JUST BEING/DOING GAY SHYT CAUSE ITS IN NOW?..

LIKE THAT 1 CHICK THAT GOT THE "I KISSED A GIRL AND I LIKED IT SONG".. U THINK THEM LIL GIRLS WASNT DOING THAT SHYT?... OH OK

Dro, you smarter that this, son.

U OBVIOUSLY NOT.. JUST LIKE DRUGS, SKINNY JEANS, OR ANY OTHER THINGS THAT DEEMED AS COOL, MOST KIDS/TEENS WILL FOLLOW IT... FACTS
 
DROCRAZY;5760383 said:
VIBE;5760363 said:
DROCRAZY;5760324 said:
VIBE;5760314 said:
Ms Southern;5760296 said:
Do you choose to be straight ?

He'll more than likely say yes.

This shits on so many people, so they say, "yes I choose to be straight", rather than, "I don't need to think about it, I am naturally attracted to the opposite sex".

They're basically saying they've given being gay a thought.

NAW, I DIDNT SAY THAT...THANK YOU SIR....

LIKE I SAID, ITS NATURAL TO BE STRAIGHT (UNLESS YOU WERE MOLESTED OR SOME SHYT)

Nope.

Many people can tell you otherwise.

Plus you didn't answer.

Did you choose to be straight?

NO... IM NATURALLY STRAIGHT

So how is no one naturally gay? Not one human being is naturally attracted to the same sex?
 
The Lonious Monk;5760384 said:
Wonder Girl ;5760348 said:
The point of telling everyone is to Let the people around you know about the life you may or may not have been hiding.

I dont think the media pushes this to,make the world accept gayness, but to let people know its okay to be who you are.

I don't agree with that. The media is most definitely trying to make the world accept gayness. If it was just a matter of letting people know it's okay to be who you are, they'd just find ways to make that general statement. Instead, they push the gay agenda. It's one thing to talk about gay right in a political setting. It's another thing to flood every media outlet with conversation about a gay dude making it known that he's gay.

Whats pushing the gay agenda?

This man is a public figure and no matter what someone would, have found out and then his business is everywhere. Its only so big cause he famous.
 
DROCRAZY;5760375 said:
mryounggun;5760329 said:
I'm not sure why people think being gay is a choice. Just MsSouthern said, nobody chooses to be straight. It's just in your nature. Nobody taught you to be attracted to women. You just are. Same for niggas who are gay. They didn't wake up one day and say 'I'm going to be attracted to men now.'. They just are. Shit seems pretty clear to me.

SO YOU TELLING ME THAT KIDS/TEENS AINT JUST BEING/DOING GAY SHYT CAUSE ITS IN NOW?..

LIKE THAT 1 CHICK THAT GOT THE "I KISSED A GIRL AND I LIKED IT SONG".. U THINK THEM LIL GIRLS WASNT DOING THAT SHYT?... OH OK

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DROCRAZY;5760383 said:
VIBE;5760363 said:
DROCRAZY;5760324 said:
VIBE;5760314 said:
Ms Southern;5760296 said:
Do you choose to be straight ?

He'll more than likely say yes.

This shits on so many people, so they say, "yes I choose to be straight", rather than, "I don't need to think about it, I am naturally attracted to the opposite sex".

They're basically saying they've given being gay a thought.

NAW, I DIDNT SAY THAT...THANK YOU SIR....

LIKE I SAID, ITS NATURAL TO BE STRAIGHT (UNLESS YOU WERE MOLESTED OR SOME SHYT)

Nope.

Many people can tell you otherwise.

Plus you didn't answer.

Did you choose to be straight?

NO... IM NATURALLY STRAIGHT

Okay, so you never had to think about your attraction to what sex, it was natural for you to like women. The same thing goes for homosexuals, they naturally like the opposite sex.

How the hell are you going to say that it's impossible? You already have a natural attraction, so they cannot?

Talk to a gay, ask them at what age they knew they were gay and if its natural. You'll get the same answer you provided, they were naturally attracted.

Don't start with "god intended" shit, because everyone does shit that would be considered "unnatural" in "gods" eyes.
 
Wonder Girl ;5760418 said:
The Lonious Monk;5760384 said:
Wonder Girl ;5760348 said:
The point of telling everyone is to Let the people around you know about the life you may or may not have been hiding.

I dont think the media pushes this to,make the world accept gayness, but to let people know its okay to be who you are.

I don't agree with that. The media is most definitely trying to make the world accept gayness. If it was just a matter of letting people know it's okay to be who you are, they'd just find ways to make that general statement. Instead, they push the gay agenda. It's one thing to talk about gay right in a political setting. It's another thing to flood every media outlet with conversation about a gay dude making it known that he's gay.

Whats pushing the gay agenda?

This man is a public figure and no matter what someone would, have found out and then his business is everywhere. Its only so big cause he famous.

The dude has been gay. He even said other people knew. No one cares that much. It's only a big issue because he revealed it and now every news outlet is making it the top story. That's pushing an agenda. This shit shouldn't be front page news. Should it be reported? Yeah, I guess, but with all the shit going on nowadays, this should not be the biggest topic around.
 
I do agree that there's a large portion of the media that goes on too hard of an attack when someone disagrees with being gay. Part of something being normalized is people disagreeing with it and that's something they're just going to have to accept. As well as people making jokes about gay folks and stop being so damned sensitive. It's funny that in trying to defend gay people they often act out one of the most common stereotypes, being overly sensitive.

Thing is though, when folks disagree with being gay they often don't keep it to just being gay it becomes that person is an abomination, worthless, less than human, doesn't deserve certain things etc. Yeah people have been killed and still are in parts of the world for being gay. That's what the coming out thing is for. To show people that gay folks are just that, normal people and their sexuality doesn't define the whole of who they are no more than it does us men who love pussy or if you a hetero woman.
 
nature says... there is Male... and Female...

They use their reproductive organs to procreate

Male Vs Male reproductive organs is UNNATURAL. thats not what they're there for,b. Fuck how people feel about it. Fuck how Gays feel. Fuck religion. Fuck beliefs.

we talkin facts and science. That shyt is NOT NATURAL, b.

edit: and i feel i have to add, i dont hate gays. jus cuz i dont hate em dont mean i dont think they are wrong. my step bro was gay, RIP to him
 
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The Lonious Monk;5760407 said:
mryounggun;5760382 said:
darkone360;5760351 said:
I swear I read that as if this nigga was yellin. Smh. But I gotta agree with Dro. Being black isn't a choice. Your sexuality on other hand is a choice. You choose to act on that attraction.

Me personally, I have no problems with the brotha coming out. That's his life. I yawn @ it b/c someone being gay doesn't really hold that shock value like it did years ago. It's more accepted in mainstream media nowadays to where folks are like "Ok. And?"

Don't understand why he had to mention he was black tho? Like folks didn't figure that out.

But you just made a clear distinction, though. You are either born with an attraction to men or to women. No choice in that matter. Whether or not you act on it is a different thing. That's like saying a nigga who is attracted to only men but has sex with women only cause he doesn't want to be ridiculed isn't gay. That nigga is still gay as shit. Just hasn't acted on it.

So what about the dudes that go to jail and fuck other men? Was every man that went to jail and wound up having homosexual sex gay from the start, or was it something they chose to be based on the situation. What about all these chicks that are either doing gay shit because they are fed up with men or as part of a fad. Were they always gay? And are they still gay even when they grow out of the phase, go back to men, and never look back.

I'm not saying there aren't people who are gay from birth and never really exhibited any other traits, but I think it's too broad a statement to say that being gay is not a choice. Lots of people make that choice.

Good point. But here's the thing: My definition (the RIGHT definition) of 'homosexual' is pretty well defined. People who are sexually attracted to the same sex. Think about that and then reconsider those questions you asked.

 
mryounggun;5760382 said:
darkone360;5760351 said:
I swear I read that as if this nigga was yellin. Smh. But I gotta agree with Dro. Being black isn't a choice. Your sexuality on other hand is a choice. You choose to act on that attraction.

Me personally, I have no problems with the brotha coming out. That's his life. I yawn @ it b/c someone being gay doesn't really hold that shock value like it did years ago. It's more accepted in mainstream media nowadays to where folks are like "Ok. And?"

Don't understand why he had to mention he was black tho? Like folks didn't figure that out.

But you just made a clear distinction, though. You are either born with an attraction to men or to women. No choice in that matter. Whether or not you act on it is a different thing. That's like saying a nigga who is attracted to only men but has sex with women only cause he doesn't want to be ridiculed isn't gay. That nigga is still gay as shit. Just hasn't acted on it.

So a serial killer for example was born to kill? Or someone is born a racist? Just b/c you have that "desire", you still choose to act on it. Whateva lifestyle that person chooses, that's their business. I just have an issue with folks tryin to compare that with being black. B/c it's not the same.

Maybe having our civil rights discriminated against, but that's it. Again, you can hide being gay. But you can't hide being black.
 
For some reason I don't care for the comparison between being black and homosexuality.

In my opinion it's apples and oranges.

Race and ethinicity are external characteristics which are exclusively due to genetics.

Homosexuality is a psychological factor and can sometimes be due to attributed to psychology but at other times environmental factors.

Race and homosexuality aren't at all related therefore should not be compared.

Just my opinion.
 
SMH at the number of people who feel the need to defend / justify homosexuality.

Y'all are pretty much trying to get people to accept it too.
 
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Perfect;5760431 said:
nature says... there is Male... and Female...

They use their reproductive organs to procreate

Male Vs Male reproductive organs is UNNATURAL. thats not what they're there for,b. Fuck how people feel about it. Fuck how Gays feel. Fuck religion. Fuck beliefs.

we talkin facts and science. That shyt is NOT NATURAL, b.

edit: and i feel i have to add, i dont hate gays. jus cuz i dont hate em dont mean i dont think they are wrong. my step bro was gay, RIP

Then explain why certain animals have sex with the same sex animal. Shit is natural but just unaccept by humans. It's unbalance but how can you say it's not natural when in fact nature does e exact same thing?
 
Perfect;5760431 said:
nature says... there is Male... and Female...

They use their reproductive organs to procreate

Male Vs Male reproductive organs is UNNATURAL. thats not what they're there for,b. Fuck how people feel about it. Fuck how Gays feel. Fuck religion. Fuck beliefs.

we talkin facts and science. That shyt is NOT NATURAL, b.

edit: and i feel i have to add, i dont hate gays. jus cuz i dont hate em dont mean i dont think they are wrong. my step bro was gay, RIP to him

But you enjoy lesbian porn?
 
mryounggun;5760432 said:
The Lonious Monk;5760407 said:
mryounggun;5760382 said:
darkone360;5760351 said:
I swear I read that as if this nigga was yellin. Smh. But I gotta agree with Dro. Being black isn't a choice. Your sexuality on other hand is a choice. You choose to act on that attraction.

Me personally, I have no problems with the brotha coming out. That's his life. I yawn @ it b/c someone being gay doesn't really hold that shock value like it did years ago. It's more accepted in mainstream media nowadays to where folks are like "Ok. And?"

Don't understand why he had to mention he was black tho? Like folks didn't figure that out.

But you just made a clear distinction, though. You are either born with an attraction to men or to women. No choice in that matter. Whether or not you act on it is a different thing. That's like saying a nigga who is attracted to only men but has sex with women only cause he doesn't want to be ridiculed isn't gay. That nigga is still gay as shit. Just hasn't acted on it.

So what about the dudes that go to jail and fuck other men? Was every man that went to jail and wound up having homosexual sex gay from the start, or was it something they chose to be based on the situation. What about all these chicks that are either doing gay shit because they are fed up with men or as part of a fad. Were they always gay? And are they still gay even when they grow out of the phase, go back to men, and never look back.

I'm not saying there aren't people who are gay from birth and never really exhibited any other traits, but I think it's too broad a statement to say that being gay is not a choice. Lots of people make that choice.

Good point. But here's the thing: My definition (the RIGHT definition) of 'homosexual' is pretty well defined. People who are sexually attracted to the same sex. Think about that and then reconsider those questions you asked.

You don't think at some point people who consistently fuck people of a particular gender are sexually attracted to them. I'm not saying that dudes go into jail thinking other dudes are sexy as hell, but after spending years having sex with men, they have to develop some form of sexual attraction. Same goes for women going through their "gay phase." They pick and choose the women they want to fuck, so they have some concept of what woman is sexually attractive to them. That said in both cases, the people doing gay shit probably had no homosexual inclination before the incident that pushed them in that direction and they may not have any inclination after the get past whatever pushed them in that direction.
 
darkone360;5760438 said:
mryounggun;5760382 said:
darkone360;5760351 said:
I swear I read that as if this nigga was yellin. Smh. But I gotta agree with Dro. Being black isn't a choice. Your sexuality on other hand is a choice. You choose to act on that attraction.

Me personally, I have no problems with the brotha coming out. That's his life. I yawn @ it b/c someone being gay doesn't really hold that shock value like it did years ago. It's more accepted in mainstream media nowadays to where folks are like "Ok. And?"

Don't understand why he had to mention he was black tho? Like folks didn't figure that out.

But you just made a clear distinction, though. You are either born with an attraction to men or to women. No choice in that matter. Whether or not you act on it is a different thing. That's like saying a nigga who is attracted to only men but has sex with women only cause he doesn't want to be ridiculed isn't gay. That nigga is still gay as shit. Just hasn't acted on it.

So a serial killer for example was born to kill? Or someone is born a racist? Just b/c you have that "desire", you still choose to act on it. Whateva lifestyle that person chooses, that's their business. I just have an issue with folks tryin to compare that with being black. B/c it's not the same.

Maybe having our civil rights discriminated against, but that's it. Again, you can hide being gay. But you can't hide being black.

Aight, so let me ask you this: In your opinion, if a nigga is sexually attracted to men only, but never actually has sex with another man...is he gay?

And as far as the black vs. gay thing, I think that's all they mean when they make that comparison. Both have/had rights infringed upon. That's what I mean when I make that comparison. When you look at it like that, I'd say the comparison was pretty accurate.
 
The Lonious Monk;5760452 said:
mryounggun;5760432 said:
The Lonious Monk;5760407 said:
mryounggun;5760382 said:
darkone360;5760351 said:
I swear I read that as if this nigga was yellin. Smh. But I gotta agree with Dro. Being black isn't a choice. Your sexuality on other hand is a choice. You choose to act on that attraction.

Me personally, I have no problems with the brotha coming out. That's his life. I yawn @ it b/c someone being gay doesn't really hold that shock value like it did years ago. It's more accepted in mainstream media nowadays to where folks are like "Ok. And?"

Don't understand why he had to mention he was black tho? Like folks didn't figure that out.

But you just made a clear distinction, though. You are either born with an attraction to men or to women. No choice in that matter. Whether or not you act on it is a different thing. That's like saying a nigga who is attracted to only men but has sex with women only cause he doesn't want to be ridiculed isn't gay. That nigga is still gay as shit. Just hasn't acted on it.

So what about the dudes that go to jail and fuck other men? Was every man that went to jail and wound up having homosexual sex gay from the start, or was it something they chose to be based on the situation. What about all these chicks that are either doing gay shit because they are fed up with men or as part of a fad. Were they always gay? And are they still gay even when they grow out of the phase, go back to men, and never look back.

I'm not saying there aren't people who are gay from birth and never really exhibited any other traits, but I think it's too broad a statement to say that being gay is not a choice. Lots of people make that choice.

Good point. But here's the thing: My definition (the RIGHT definition) of 'homosexual' is pretty well defined. People who are sexually attracted to the same sex. Think about that and then reconsider those questions you asked.

You don't think at some point people who consistently fuck people of a particular gender are sexually attracted to them. I'm not saying that dudes go into jail thinking other dudes are sexy as hell, but after spending years having sex with men, they have to develop some form of sexual attraction. Same goes for women going through their "gay phase." They pick and choose the women they want to fuck, so they have some concept of what woman is sexually attractive to them. That said in both cases, the people doing gay shit probably had no homosexual inclination before the incident that pushed them in that direction and they may not have any inclination after the get past whatever pushed them in that direction.

I agree with some of this. Disagree with some of it. Interesting perspective though.
 


Why would people choose to be gay and have to live their lives in hiding and not be treated fairly or equally?

Look at all the "down low" Black men out there scared to come out the closet. Who would choose that life?

People waste so much time and and energy worried about how other people live their lives. Shit doesn't affect me so I don't care :-??
 
I don't care if the nigga is gay , he is still a terrible bball player but I did call him a coward and an opportunist for waiting till now for this shit...if he was really bout the backdoor bandit life he had made it known from jump not have a fiancee and etc....hell Britney Greiner was drafted, dropped the same bombshell no one was surprised nor gave a shit. I just typed all this to say I don't really care bout homeboy gay saga and he is still an awful bball ....and he took the attention away from us Roasting Dwight Howard..
 
The Lonious Monk;5760426 said:
Wonder Girl ;5760418 said:
The Lonious Monk;5760384 said:
Wonder Girl ;5760348 said:
The point of telling everyone is to Let the people around you know about the life you may or may not have been hiding.

I dont think the media pushes this to,make the world accept gayness, but to let people know its okay to be who you are.

I don't agree with that. The media is most definitely trying to make the world accept gayness. If it was just a matter of letting people know it's okay to be who you are, they'd just find ways to make that general statement. Instead, they push the gay agenda. It's one thing to talk about gay right in a political setting. It's another thing to flood every media outlet with conversation about a gay dude making it known that he's gay.

Whats pushing the gay agenda?

This man is a public figure and no matter what someone would, have found out and then his business is everywhere. Its only so big cause he famous.

The dude has been gay. He even said other people knew. No one cares that much. It's only a big issue because he revealed it and now every news outlet is making it the top story. That's pushing an agenda. This shit shouldn't be front page news. Should it be reported? Yeah, I guess, but with all the shit going on nowadays, this should not be the biggest topic around.

That's not pushing the agenda, but reproof the news. Is it pushing the drunk white women movement when Lohan is all over the need news...no.

Him telling the media is just saying dont go crazy when you see me at the gay club or holding hands with a dude.

I doubt its the biggest news around and for a nba nigga he was brave. He could be causing all types of trouble for himself.
 

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