Do u think obama will be re-elected?

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King Erauno;1131396 said:
i thought national polls are just a random group of people. doesnt reflect america as a whole...frankly i dont pay them shits any mind

They are. The polling old people in the old fashion way via phones. They still don't get alot of people use cell phones now a day. Just like all the polls before the election they had Obama losing.
 
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Obama was never elected. Nor was any other president.

Will he be re-selected is the questions at hand?
 
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louis the great;1130980 said:
I think he might if a War with iran kicks off, the powers that be really want this nigga in their when everything goes to hell. I seriously consider Obama to be one of the Dajjals mentioned in the Koran.

see this is why no one takes you seriously.
 
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he's got a good chance, despite not being a good president in my opinion. its strange, the right tends to control the conversation on most issues, yet have no front runner that they could run to challenge obama. the left seems to be constantly having to defend themselves, yet they have the strongest candidates (obama, and if not him, hilary). if the gop can't offer a candidate who isn't a fringe nut case, then they're going to lose. either way, we've seen that a democratic president is still going to be a lot like a republican one so i don't think there will be much of a difference.

especially with how much partisan fighting has been going on. even if republicans do take the house back in november, the dems are just going to do what the republicans are doing now - obstruct.
 
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King Erauno;1131396 said:
i thought national polls are just a random group of people. doesnt reflect america as a whole...frankly i dont pay them shits any mind

Well I hate to tell you this, but that's just retarded.
 
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Reina B;1132822 said:
Obama was never elected. Nor was any other president.

Will he be re-selected is the questions at hand?

Well I hate to tell you this, but that's just retarded.
 
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white people like me;1130341 said:
Yeah, there's no viable alternative in the republican party. Palin is dumb as rocks with falling popularity, Gingrich is unlikeable, Romney has shown he can't win, Jindal was a bust, and Scott Brown has even less experience than Obama had coming in. Not to mention conservative politics that the GOP emphasizes at this point will set America back a couple years. Obama has been alright despite weak health care reform, weak wall street form, and a weak stimulus package. He'll win because we'll get out of Afghanistan by 2012, economy will be recovered hopefully, don't ask don't tell will be repealed, and he'll do something to secure the hispanic vote in regards to immigration.

close thread.
 
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Reina B;1139625 said:
Louis stealing my shit? I might need to sue him for plagiarism
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Anyone who claims they can definitively predict whether or not Obama will be re-elected at this point is full of shit. No one actually knows.

That said, if I had to put money on it, I'd have to bet that he will be re-elected. As others have stated, the GOP's probable field is weak. The candidates are all either lackluster or seemingly unelectable. People say Obama came out of nowhere so the GOP could have the same thing occur, but that's inaccurate. Obama was a big name on the national scene since the 2004 election. So assuming that there's probably not time for a new Republican star to emerge, we seem to be looking at a field that includes the Romney, Palin, Pawlenty, and a few other joke candidates. Pawlenty could MAYBE be a formidable challenge to Obama, but he's looking like a real longshot to go anywhere in the primaries. That leaves Palin and Romney. We know about Palin. Romney could be a serious challenger to Obama, but he's going to have to warp and distort his positions frantically to the right to survive the primary, and with Palin as his opponent, he'll never be far enough to the right no matter what he does.

But remember, even a lousy candidate can unseat a president with terrible approval numbers. If that continues to decline, it will matter less and less that the GOP has shitty candidates and no vision.
 
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shootemwon;1146218 said:
That said, if I had to put money on it, I'd have to bet that he will be re-elected. As others have stated, the GOP's probable field is weak.
oddly enough, as of today i have a bet between myself (who does not like Obama that much) and a friend of mine (who is a very big fan of Obama) about this re-election; i am betting that he WILL be re-elected, as he is depressed because he thinks there's no way Obama gets re-elected.

summation: i may be claiming to definitively predict whether or not Obama will be re-elected
 
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Obama will lose bad if the war in Afghanistan is showing no signs of a MASSIVE exit of American soldiers by 2011.....

or if the economy does not pick up great steam by the same year.

Just my opinion overall, he will lose in 2012. I'm willing to bet money on it.......
 
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shootemwon;1146218 said:
Anyone who claims they can definitively predict whether or not Obama will be re-elected at this point is full of shit. No one actually knows.

That said, if I had to put money on it, I'd have to bet that he will be re-elected. As others have stated, the GOP's probable field is weak. The candidates are all either lackluster or seemingly unelectable. People say Obama came out of nowhere so the GOP could have the same thing occur, but that's inaccurate. Obama was a big name on the national scene since the 2004 election. So assuming that there's probably not time for a new Republican star to emerge, we seem to be looking at a field that includes the Romney, Palin, Pawlenty, and a few other joke candidates. Pawlenty could MAYBE be a formidable challenge to Obama, but he's looking like a real longshot to go anywhere in the primaries. That leaves Palin and Romney. We know about Palin. Romney could be a serious challenger to Obama, but he's going to have to warp and distort his positions frantically to the right to survive the primary, and with Palin as his opponent, he'll never be far enough to the right no matter what he does.

But remember, even a lousy candidate can unseat a president with terrible approval numbers. If that continues to decline, it will matter less and less that the GOP has shitty candidates and no vision.

GREAT observation on the Republican field of candidates, they are indeed weak as fuck. But with this economy looking worse by the hour, and the cost of living getting ever more expensive, a weak Republican will be enough to take Obama out.

Never forget Bush won twice.....Obama being a black man, does not have the same sympathy with white America that Bush often got (not including comedians or Hollywood).
 
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kingblaze84;1151544 said:
GREAT observation on the Republican field of candidates, they are indeed weak as fuck. But with this economy looking worse by the hour, and the cost of living getting ever more expensive, a weak Republican will be enough to take Obama out.

Never forget Bush won twice.....Obama being a black man, does not have the same sympathy with white America that Bush often got (not including comedians or Hollywood).

One of the main factors you could point to in Bush's re-election was that John Kerry was an exceptionally bad candidate. If Obama faces an exceptionally bad challenger like Bush did in 04, it certainly would help him.

Also, someone previously commented that all likely Republicans have polls showing that if the election were today, they could beat Obama. While that's mainly true, those numbers are misleading. There's an old saying that goes something like "A high profile candidate's best day on the campaign trail is the first day". What it means is that anyone with name recognition will have better numbers before the campaign actually gets underway. Let's take Palin as an example of this. The day she was announced as McCain's runningmate, polls showed that independents and Hillary supporters had surprisingly high opinions of her. After a couple weeks on the campaign trail, as the tough questions started getting asked, her approval shot way down. Now she's supposedly more popular, but let her get on the trail for 2012 and you better believe she's gonna face those same old problems. If you go back and look at what seasoned, rational analysts (as opposed to narrative driven pundits who just wanna hype up juicy stories) the consensus always was that Palin's high poll numbers would fall when people got to know about her. The same will happen for anyone else once they start running.
 
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earth two superman;1161133 said:
what were bush's approval numbers by the time of the 04 election?

High 40's, I think a couple polls showed 50 or 51, but mostly high 40's

Edit: Here's one chart that shows him doing a little bit better. He may have shot up near the end by a few points.

bush-approval-historic.jpg

(wallstreet journal)
 
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