Do Africans Call Each Other Niggas or Any Name Derived from a Racial Pejorative?

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Kushington;4353683 said:
Lil Loca;4353678 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353661 said:
Lil Loca;4353644 said:
High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

This is true. I don't have a problem if Africans use the word, tho.

Lil Loca;4353644 said:
High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

This is true. I don't have a problem if Africans use the word, tho.

I have a problem with it though. I firmly believe words have power, and if a man accepts a label he will take on the characteristics of that label.

Although I know most duns say they use nigga like it aint no thang it's just a word, you can use it on anybody for any occasion. True enough, you can call a white boy a nigga or a asian dun a nigga, but I don't think it has an effect until they accept that identity.

Watch dudes of any race that accept that label nigga and watch their behavior, their mannerisms, they wildin out all the time over goofy shit too, especially these youngins.

NIgga is a label a title just like every other word, and just like every title it carries certain expectations of behaviors

King

Lord

Boss

Don

Queen

Capo

Fool

Nigga

List goes on, but I think the point is clear. Each title has an expected manner of behavior. You expect a King to act like a King, a Boss to act like a Boss so on and so forth. What is a nigga supposed to act like?

Still don't care if Black people use it amongst themselves. Oppressed people have the right to use words that have used as a weapon against them and transform its meaning for their group. Besides, I care less about what we call ourselves than how we act. Not every dude that walks around with a kufi and calls dudes King is practicing what he preaches. Not every dude who says nigga is lost. It ain't in black and white.

The meaning has not transformed. Its the same exact word.

quoted for emphasis. the word never changed meaning.

There is an association with what you call yourself and the behavior you exhibit and expect from people.

If you are callin another black man a nigga just for gp then you are lost because you don't understand the gravity of the word.
 
Lil Loca;4353692 said:
Kushington;4353683 said:
Lil Loca;4353678 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353661 said:
Lil Loca;4353644 said:
High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

This is true. I don't have a problem if Africans use the word, tho.

Lil Loca;4353644 said:
High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

This is true. I don't have a problem if Africans use the word, tho.

I have a problem with it though. I firmly believe words have power, and if a man accepts a label he will take on the characteristics of that label.

Although I know most duns say they use nigga like it aint no thang it's just a word, you can use it on anybody for any occasion. True enough, you can call a white boy a nigga or a asian dun a nigga, but I don't think it has an effect until they accept that identity.

Watch dudes of any race that accept that label nigga and watch their behavior, their mannerisms, they wildin out all the time over goofy shit too, especially these youngins.

NIgga is a label a title just like every other word, and just like every title it carries certain expectations of behaviors

King

Lord

Boss

Don

Queen

Capo

Fool

Nigga

List goes on, but I think the point is clear. Each title has an expected manner of behavior. You expect a King to act like a King, a Boss to act like a Boss so on and so forth. What is a nigga supposed to act like?

Still don't care if Black people use it amongst themselves. Oppressed people have the right to use words that have used as a weapon against them and transform its meaning for their group. Besides, I care less about what we call ourselves than how we act. Not every dude that walks around with a kufi and calls dudes King is practicing what he preaches. Not every dude who says nigga is lost. It ain't in black and white.

The meaning has not transformed. Its the same exact word.

That's your opinion. I still say people who the word oppresses has the right to use it in their community if they feel like it. Women use the word bitch with each other. Gays use the word faggot and dyke in their own circles. It doesn't bother me at all.

Its not my opinion, its fact. Just because a group of people feel such a lack of regard for themselves to use their own slurs for each other, doesnt mean the word's meaning has changed.
 
So what does this mean for the Africans who use demonym with "racist" etymologies?

Are Ethiopians calling each other "burnt faced" out chea?
 
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Kushington;4353683 said:
Lil Loca;4353678 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353661 said:
Lil Loca;4353644 said:
High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

This is true. I don't have a problem if Africans use the word, tho.

Lil Loca;4353644 said:
High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

This is true. I don't have a problem if Africans use the word, tho.

I have a problem with it though. I firmly believe words have power, and if a man accepts a label he will take on the characteristics of that label.

Although I know most duns say they use nigga like it aint no thang it's just a word, you can use it on anybody for any occasion. True enough, you can call a white boy a nigga or a asian dun a nigga, but I don't think it has an effect until they accept that identity.

Watch dudes of any race that accept that label nigga and watch their behavior, their mannerisms, they wildin out all the time over goofy shit too, especially these youngins.

NIgga is a label a title just like every other word, and just like every title it carries certain expectations of behaviors

King

Lord

Boss

Don

Queen

Capo

Fool

Nigga

List goes on, but I think the point is clear. Each title has an expected manner of behavior. You expect a King to act like a King, a Boss to act like a Boss so on and so forth. What is a nigga supposed to act like?

Still don't care if Black people use it amongst themselves. Oppressed people have the right to use words that have used as a weapon against them and transform its meaning for their group. Besides, I care less about what we call ourselves than how we act. Not every dude that walks around with a kufi and calls dudes King is practicing what he preaches. Not every dude who says nigga is lost. It ain't in black and white.

The meaning has not transformed. Its the same exact word.

That's your opinion. I still say people who the word oppresses has the right to use it in their community if they feel like it. Women use the word bitch with each other. Gays use the word faggot and dyke in their own circles. It doesn't bother me at all.

Its not my opinion, its fact. Just because a group of people feel such a lack of regard for themselves to use their own slurs for each other, doesnt mean the word's meaning has changed.

No, it really is just your opinion. I'm one of the most militant motherfuckers you'll ever meet in real life and let the word nigga flow freely from my mouth without hesitation. I feel oppressed people have that right.

What good is it to be militant when you're pointing the gun in your own face?

There is nothing constructive about that word
 
Lil Loca;4353715 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353709 said:
@Lil Loca

Don't matter what you call it. The science is real.

Words have power bitch.

Yep, as soon as someone disagrees with you, all your Black power and unity shit goes out the window. Hypocrite.

Not really I was just showing you something. Your whole attitude changed when I called you a bitch. You may not take on the identity of bitch, but it still effected you. Nigga lives on that same boat.
 
Lil Loca;4353710 said:
Kushington;4353699 said:
Lil Loca;4353692 said:
Kushington;4353683 said:
Lil Loca;4353678 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353661 said:
Lil Loca;4353644 said:
High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

This is true. I don't have a problem if Africans use the word, tho.

Lil Loca;4353644 said:
High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

This is true. I don't have a problem if Africans use the word, tho.

I have a problem with it though. I firmly believe words have power, and if a man accepts a label he will take on the characteristics of that label.

Although I know most duns say they use nigga like it aint no thang it's just a word, you can use it on anybody for any occasion. True enough, you can call a white boy a nigga or a asian dun a nigga, but I don't think it has an effect until they accept that identity.

Watch dudes of any race that accept that label nigga and watch their behavior, their mannerisms, they wildin out all the time over goofy shit too, especially these youngins.

NIgga is a label a title just like every other word, and just like every title it carries certain expectations of behaviors

King

Lord

Boss

Don

Queen

Capo

Fool

Nigga

List goes on, but I think the point is clear. Each title has an expected manner of behavior. You expect a King to act like a King, a Boss to act like a Boss so on and so forth. What is a nigga supposed to act like?

Still don't care if Black people use it amongst themselves. Oppressed people have the right to use words that have used as a weapon against them and transform its meaning for their group. Besides, I care less about what we call ourselves than how we act. Not every dude that walks around with a kufi and calls dudes King is practicing what he preaches. Not every dude who says nigga is lost. It ain't in black and white.

The meaning has not transformed. Its the same exact word.

That's your opinion. I still say people who the word oppresses has the right to use it in their community if they feel like it. Women use the word bitch with each other. Gays use the word faggot and dyke in their own circles. It doesn't bother me at all.

Its not my opinion, its fact. Just because a group of people feel such a lack of regard for themselves to use their own slurs for each other, doesnt mean the word's meaning has changed.

No, it really is just your opinion. I'm one of the most militant motherfuckers you'll ever meet in real life and let the word nigga flow freely from my mouth without hesitation. I feel oppressed people have that right.

Are you familiar with the word hypocrisy?

You think you have to right to disrespect people based on your "militant" mindset? Smh at you actually believing you will get anywhere with your militancy referring to your own as niggas, in fact its people like you that make black militants nothing more than a mockery of what it actually stood for in the past. Kim jong un would never refer to his people as chinks, the president of israel would never refer to his people as kikes, the president of mexico would never refer to his people as wetbacks.

The n word was created to dehumanize blacks. Bottom line. And its literally only your opinion if you think otherwise.
 
@Lil Loca

I'm not tryin to beef I'm just trying to make a point.

You say you militant, you down for the cause. That's great. In order for the militancy to be effective we gotta have certain inalienable truths about the issues.

One of them is the word nigga. That word has got to go out the lexicon. It in no way implies or manufactures brotherhood only savagery.
 
Lil Loca;4353736 said:
Kushington;4353727 said:
Lil Loca;4353710 said:
Kushington;4353699 said:
Lil Loca;4353692 said:
Kushington;4353683 said:
Lil Loca;4353678 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353661 said:
Lil Loca;4353644 said:
High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

This is true. I don't have a problem if Africans use the word, tho.

Lil Loca;4353644 said:
High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

This is true. I don't have a problem if Africans use the word, tho.

I have a problem with it though. I firmly believe words have power, and if a man accepts a label he will take on the characteristics of that label.

Although I know most duns say they use nigga like it aint no thang it's just a word, you can use it on anybody for any occasion. True enough, you can call a white boy a nigga or a asian dun a nigga, but I don't think it has an effect until they accept that identity.

Watch dudes of any race that accept that label nigga and watch their behavior, their mannerisms, they wildin out all the time over goofy shit too, especially these youngins.

NIgga is a label a title just like every other word, and just like every title it carries certain expectations of behaviors

King

Lord

Boss

Don

Queen

Capo

Fool

Nigga

List goes on, but I think the point is clear. Each title has an expected manner of behavior. You expect a King to act like a King, a Boss to act like a Boss so on and so forth. What is a nigga supposed to act like?

Still don't care if Black people use it amongst themselves. Oppressed people have the right to use words that have used as a weapon against them and transform its meaning for their group. Besides, I care less about what we call ourselves than how we act. Not every dude that walks around with a kufi and calls dudes King is practicing what he preaches. Not every dude who says nigga is lost. It ain't in black and white.

The meaning has not transformed. Its the same exact word.

That's your opinion. I still say people who the word oppresses has the right to use it in their community if they feel like it. Women use the word bitch with each other. Gays use the word faggot and dyke in their own circles. It doesn't bother me at all.

Its not my opinion, its fact. Just because a group of people feel such a lack of regard for themselves to use their own slurs for each other, doesnt mean the word's meaning has changed.

No, it really is just your opinion. I'm one of the most militant motherfuckers you'll ever meet in real life and let the word nigga flow freely from my mouth without hesitation. I feel oppressed people have that right.

Are you familiar with the word hypocrisy?

You think you have to right to disrespect people based on your "militant" mindset? Smh at you actually believing you will get anywhere with your militancy referring to your own as niggas, in fact its people like you that make black militants nothing more than a mockery of what it actually stood for in the past. Kim jong un would never refer to his people as chinks, the president of israel would never refer to his people as kikes, the president of mexico would never refer to his people as wetbacks.

The n word was created to dehumanize blacks. Bottom line. And its literally only your opinion if you think otherwise.

I know the history of the word. Black people using it towards each other shouldn't be anyone's primary issue. Mafuckas are worried about a fucking word when there's police violence, poverty, sexually transmitted diseases, poor education that you need to be worrying. It's a fake issue that distracts niggas from actual shit that you need to be concerned about.

I disagree. All these issues are symptomatic of powerlessness among the people, those subject to the whimsy of another. Our powerlessness in particular in rooted in our forgotten identity. Knowledge of self.

There is power in being assured of who you are. Our ancestors were stripped of culture over time and forceably new identities imposed on them, one of those identities being nigga.

If we are to rid ourselves of these afflictions poverty, police brutality, disease, miseducation then we need to regain our power.

I understand ma you don't think I'm real. That's cool. Because not everyone who says they are down for the cause is down for the people at all. Perhaps overtime situation will arise that I show and prove.
 
Lil Loca;4353736 said:
Kushington;4353727 said:
Lil Loca;4353710 said:
Kushington;4353699 said:
Lil Loca;4353692 said:
Kushington;4353683 said:
Lil Loca;4353678 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353661 said:
Lil Loca;4353644 said:
High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

This is true. I don't have a problem if Africans use the word, tho.

Lil Loca;4353644 said:
High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

High Revolutionary;4353522 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4353478 said:
High Revolutionary;4353463 said:
Yeah a lot of African peeps call each other 'nigga' primarily because the African American subculture is so influential but I'm not sure if any Africans call each other an equivalent to the pejorative in their native language.

So basically, however we move, eventually they'll turn in that direction too?

That's an interesting factor, that such a relatively small population of people can influence a much larger population.

Yup. I know you saw the brotha from London on here trying to convince the IC how 'hood' the UK was.

Umar Johnson, in one of his lectures, was talking about how African Americans have to be mindful of their actions because they have the rest of the black world following their trends.

This is true. I don't have a problem if Africans use the word, tho.

I have a problem with it though. I firmly believe words have power, and if a man accepts a label he will take on the characteristics of that label.

Although I know most duns say they use nigga like it aint no thang it's just a word, you can use it on anybody for any occasion. True enough, you can call a white boy a nigga or a asian dun a nigga, but I don't think it has an effect until they accept that identity.

Watch dudes of any race that accept that label nigga and watch their behavior, their mannerisms, they wildin out all the time over goofy shit too, especially these youngins.

NIgga is a label a title just like every other word, and just like every title it carries certain expectations of behaviors

King

Lord

Boss

Don

Queen

Capo

Fool

Nigga

List goes on, but I think the point is clear. Each title has an expected manner of behavior. You expect a King to act like a King, a Boss to act like a Boss so on and so forth. What is a nigga supposed to act like?

Still don't care if Black people use it amongst themselves. Oppressed people have the right to use words that have used as a weapon against them and transform its meaning for their group. Besides, I care less about what we call ourselves than how we act. Not every dude that walks around with a kufi and calls dudes King is practicing what he preaches. Not every dude who says nigga is lost. It ain't in black and white.

The meaning has not transformed. Its the same exact word.

That's your opinion. I still say people who the word oppresses has the right to use it in their community if they feel like it. Women use the word bitch with each other. Gays use the word faggot and dyke in their own circles. It doesn't bother me at all.

Its not my opinion, its fact. Just because a group of people feel such a lack of regard for themselves to use their own slurs for each other, doesnt mean the word's meaning has changed.

No, it really is just your opinion. I'm one of the most militant motherfuckers you'll ever meet in real life and let the word nigga flow freely from my mouth without hesitation. I feel oppressed people have that right.

Are you familiar with the word hypocrisy?

You think you have to right to disrespect people based on your "militant" mindset? Smh at you actually believing you will get anywhere with your militancy referring to your own as niggas, in fact its people like you that make black militants nothing more than a mockery of what it actually stood for in the past. Kim jong un would never refer to his people as chinks, the president of israel would never refer to his people as kikes, the president of mexico would never refer to his people as wetbacks.

The n word was created to dehumanize blacks. Bottom line. And its literally only your opinion if you think otherwise.

I know the history of the word. Black people using it towards each other shouldn't be anyone's primary issue. Mafuckas are worried about a fucking word when there's police violence, poverty, sexually transmitted diseases, unemployment, poor education that needs your attention. It's a fake issue that distracts niggas from actual shit that you need to be concerned about. The NAACP taking a whole day to bury that word was complete pointless shit, were they fucking kidding? Lame as hell.

Do you actually know how important words are? They vocalize a human's state of mind.

Your ignorance amazes me. I seriously hope you're trolling right now, because if you acutally believe the shit youre typing, you are a total dumbass and are useless to any progress the black community can ever hope to achieve. In fact youre a hindrance to any progress.
 
Lil Loca;4353757 said:
@Public

You're preaching to the choir. I know all that. Over time, I've learned to pick and choose my battles. And Black people using nigga is just not something I'm worried about. There's other important shit that needs my immediate attention that people need to talk about. Move people to actual action first, and then you can start to make an impact and change of heart about what or what not to use in vocabulary. Right now, telling Black folk to not use nigga isn't realistically going to solve anything. NAACP failed at that because they don't do any action besides talking and being immobile on issues that are actually of great importance.

I understand where you comin from ma and you are right. Black people can stop callin each other nigga tomorrow and we still gonna have 2 tons of other problems to deal with.

One of the ways you get people to deal with the issues is you have to feed them. A lot of folks out here are just hungry. In order to even get people to talk about the disease and the education and police brutality you gotta take care of the most base need and thats the stomach. Feed people that good food then you can start feedin their spirit with solutions to all these issues.

With issues of police brutality, one dun dropped a thread last week sometime detailing the different court decisions that favored citizens defending themselves against police action. i wrote that info down. As scholarly as I am, i couldn't find that info out anywhere, and I purposefully searched for it. How much does the average person just tryin to make it through the day not know or care why they should know.

Education, Black folks have got to understand the importance of investing in their children's education and stop relying on the state sanctioned education system. It's been fucking us up. We need our own schools teachng our own curricula with teachers who care about our kids as much as we do.
 
Lil Loca....

Here's the difference between me and you: I DONT PROCLAIM TO BE A PRO-BLACK MILITANT. I am an individual. I consider my successes, as well as any shortcomings, as a product of my own efforts, abilities, and choices. Even assuming I too am as oppressed as you claim to be, that has no bearing on how I conduct myself. I see you in the same way as a normal white person sees a Neo-Nazi/white supremacist, a misguided individual adopting a collective mindset, a "herd" mentality. Discrimination, prejudice, and racism do indeed exist, and I may or may not have been affected by it, but I dont dwell on it like you do, because that is counterproductive to my personal existence.
 
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Lil Loca;4353779 said:
Kushington;4353770 said:
Lil Loca....

Here's the difference between me and you: I DONT PROCLAIM TO BE A PRO-BLACK MILITANT. I am an individual. I consider my successes, as well as any shortcomings, as a product of my own efforts, abilities, and choices. Even assuming I too am as oppressed as you claim to be, that has no bearing on how I conduct myself. I see you in the same way as a normal white person sees a Neo-Nazi/white supremacist, a misguided individual adopting a collective mindset, a "herd" mentality. Discrimination, prejudice, and racism do indeed exist, and I may or may not have been affected by it, but I dont dwell on it like you do, because that is counterproductive to my personal existence.

You're rambling now. So what I'm getting is, you sit in an ivory tower, try to tell other Black people that they are a disgrace to the community, then retreat like a little bitch when you are questioned about your own actions offline. Figures. Sounds like you have personal problems that don't concern me.

The bolded is laughable and a simile that doesn't make any logical sense. So you don't find time to care about actual issues that affect black folks in their daily lives, like racism and systematic violence, but you find time to be concerned about word that Black people use that somehow effects you, even though you're such an individual, right? Makes perfect sense.

What didnt you comprehend when I said I dont give a fuck about the community? I have never claimed to.

You are a hypocrite because you claim to give a fuck, but then you see no problem with using words that are solely intended to demean black people.

Im just pointing out your contradiction, yet you dont seem to understand. But we can agree to disagree though.
 
Well I'm Sudanese and Haitian and Nigga we say Nigga all the time.

History lesson! Back in the days before Vowels, Ethiopians/Sudanese ,Egyptians and Libyans called each other NGR.

Look it up, learn about yaselves.
 
I was taking my kids to their bus stop one morning and a group of high schoolers were sitting around talking and using 'nigga', there's an African family that lives where the kids were, the man who lives there comes out every morning and sits in the patio. After I was done taking my kids to their stop, I came back and he was lecturing them about how that word is disrespectful. I didn't stay to listen, it's none of my business. I think it's safe to say they probably don't.
 
So my feeling is that Africans are just as mixed on that word as Africans in America.

@Kushington:

I see where you are coming from dun. However I disagree with some of your posts. Your success and achievements didn't come off your own steam. Our ancestors collectively put up a fight to attempt at cutting a smoother path. Indeed the path is a little less rocky, but as one who has made it, the fight didn't start with you and it shouldn't end with you.

The white supremacist system we live in today is as sentient as it is amorphous. Sure you feel you are good today, but do you know what they have in store tomorrow? What about your progeny? SHould you have children or already do what of their lineage.

The system we live in does not care about individuals making it, so long as the self stays the primary concern. This system is geared towards operating against the collective, against establishing a lineage of success among the common black masses. Though it may not get you, yet. What of the man next you, or behind you or your sons, and their seed?

It doesn't have to get you to neutralize you, all it needs is the opportunity to grab your seed somewhere down the line in a myriad of traps.

Whether you agree with it or not you have obligation to the collective. Not necessarily to every broke brotha out there, but you owe to either enlighten or cut a smoother path to enlightenment and to be a reminder of what all the ancestors have done, and what still needs to be done.
 
@edwardnigma NGR is not the same as "nigger", and I agree that words have power and the word has not changed meaning. Also, why should we content in using a white man's word to describe ourselves. I look at my father's generation and they use words like "blood", "rasta", "brother", "brethren" and then look at my generation who are content to describe ourselves as "niggers". smh
 
Black Jerry Maguire;4354880 said:
@edwardnigma NGR is not the same as "nigger", and I agree that words have power and the word has not changed meaning. Also, why should we content in using a white man's word to describe ourselves. I look at my father's generation and they use words like "blood", "rasta", "brother", "brethren" and then look at my generation who are content to describe ourselves as "niggers". smh

c/s the emboldened. It's such an obvious L.
 

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