Distant Relatives > BP3

[VulcanRaven]

Lol at empire state of mind being better than Africa must wake up

even hov don't believe that shit

Nas never even been to Africa,so I don't know why he even talks about it so much.Jay has actually been there,how ironic.Content does not equal a good song,so yes Empire is better by design.

 

[Treize117]

I didnt say classic i said GREAT there is a big difference.... Classics can only be said over the test of time....

But its not great either...people remember great albums

This is gonna go down as another Untitled. It bumps for now while ur in the mood. But sooner or later that shit gets old and once it leaves the rotation it never comes back.

 

[Mvpbrodie93]

Nas never even been to Africa,so I don't know why he even talks about it so much.Jay has actually been there,how ironic.Content does not equal a good song,so yes Empire is better by design.

Lol. I like empire state of mind but Africa must wakeup is dope.

 

[JokerzWyld]

Nas never even been to Africa,so I don't know why he even talks about it so much.Jay has actually been there,how ironic.Content does not equal a good song,so yes Empire is better by design.

You fail, Nas has been to Africa. He mentioned it in an interview that it's one of his favorite places to go.

Anyway, a Pop catastrophe like BP3 shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Distant Relatives. I'll agree with you that DR is not a classic, but to say that is equal to or less than BP3 is blasphemy, and i would recommend that stop listening to Hip Hop ASAP. The man is 40 years old and he puts Drake & Kid Cudi on his album. He picked some of the most horrible production of his career on that album. He was ripped by J. Cole, a freshman to the game. Only about 4 songs are up to par with Jay-Z's standard and that is not enough. You may like it, but you don't speak for the people who crave real music.

Everybody bitches about Nas' production choices, and it improved with Damian Marley handling it. It all related to the theme of the album. DR's theme forced Lil Wayne to step his subject matter game up and rap about something uplifting, whereas Jay-Z was rapping down to the likes of Jeezy. The album was elementary for Jay-Z, a 40 year old man. DR was an adult album for adult listeners. We aren't kids. Don't confuse sales and marketing with talent and artistry, that equals FAIL.

 

[JokerzWyld]

Stop posting your opinion as fact.Empire State of Mind is better than any track on DR and that is a fact.I listen to BP3 very often and DR barely gets any play.BP3 is more enjoyable and the majority of people off this site will agree with me.Who even knows about DR offline anyway?

Alicia Keys made that song what it was. In fact, her version was better than the version on BP3.

 

[Mvpbrodie93]

Why wouldnt he?

In three years, who the fuck is even gonna know Africa Must Wake Up anyway.

More people know empire state of mind then nas' new York state of mind doesn't make it a better song. They're both completely different songs so I wouldn't compare them. Idk there's something about distant relatives that strikes chord in me. I like EVERY song on the album and I can't say that about a cd in a LONG while. It's just great music, i really don't know what to say.

 

[Treize117]

You fail, Nas has been to Africa. He mentioned it in an interview that it's one of his favorite places to go.

Anyway, a Pop catastrophe like BP3 shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Distant Relatives. I'll agree with you that DR is not a classic, but to say that is equal to or less than BP3 is blasphemy, and i would recommend that stop listening to Hip Hop ASAP. The man is 40 years old and he puts Drake & Kid Cudi on his album. He picked some of the most horrible production of his career on that album. He was ripped by J. Cole, a freshman to the game. Only about 4 songs are up to par with Jay-Z's standard and that is not enough. You may like it, but you don't speak for the people who crave real music.

Everybody bitches about Nas' production choices, and it improved with Damian Marley handling it. It all related to the theme of the album. DR's theme forced Lil Wayne to step his subject matter game up and rap about something uplifting, whereas Jay-Z was rapping down to the likes of Jeezy. The album was elementary for Jay-Z, a 40 year old man. DR was an adult album for adult listeners. We aren't kids. Don't confuse sales and marketing with talent and artistry, that equals FAIL.

Here comes the "lets exagerrate everything squad"

Lmao at DR bein an adult album for adult listeners. Like by design adults tend to gravitate toward conscious music. Sorry homie, but that concious rap tends to appeal to Black males age 18-25 and white boys more than anybody else.

BP3 wasnt some pop disaster any more than Distant Relatives was a conscious disaster. If anything they did exactly what they were supposed to do. BP3 went plat, like it was supposed to. Distant Relatives appeled to conscious listeners, like it was supposed to.

Neither one of them was all that great, that you can talk one down by comparison to the other. They were both good albums, for what they were trying to accomplish, nothing more.

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

1st..To everyone sayin the two can't be compared...Shut up...They're both hip-hop albums...they can be compare

2nd,,,I think they're both juss decent albums...niggas get boners when rappers drop "knowledge"...A whole album on one topic, no matter what topic is borin' as fuck...Don't matter whether its rims, drugs, or Africa you're rappin about

3rd...Nas needs to drop this college professor ting he's got goin' on and go back to spittin' multis

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

Also, I hate when niggas preach...About anything...I read books and study to learn about history...I listen to music to be entertained...Don't need some half-baked, basic as fuck history lesson from a couple uneducated niggas

 

[JokerzWyld]

Here comes the "lets exagerrate everything squad"

Lmao at DR bein an adult album for adult listeners. Like by design adults tend to gravitate toward conscious music. Sorry homie, but that concious rap tends to appeal to Black males age 18-25 and white boys more than anybody else.

BP3 wasnt some pop disaster any more than Distant Relatives was a conscious disaster. If anything they did exactly what they were supposed to do. BP3 went plat, like it was supposed to. Distant Relatives appeled to conscious listeners, like it was supposed to.

Neither one of them was all that great, that you can talk one down by comparison to the other. They were both good albums, for what they were trying to accomplish, nothing more.

Here we go. Didn't the bolded just prove my point. SMH

It is an adult album and i say that bcuz a lot of children and teenagers don't know about Africa nor it's history. They don't teach about subjects like that in depth in grade school. Most of the content on the album was identical to THE JOURNAL OF AFRICAN CIVILIZATION written by Dr. Ivan Van Sertima et al, who also aren't studied in great detail in schools. Nas also said "they want the whole subject diminished, but Africa is the origin of the world's religions" which is also identical to Dr. Yosef Ben-Jochannan's books. These are books that teenagers and people of demographic don't read.

Jay-Z is 40 years old and he's rapping for children and teenagers, and not in a way to uplift them. This is the reason why the music doesn't grow. I gave my points: The production was terrible, the subject matter was too young for Jay to execute, and his flow and lyricism has seen better days. All of the aforementioned is in contrast to DR. The production on DR is better than typical Nas albums, by general consensus; the subject matter showed growth and intelligence to some of Nas' older music, and ALL of Jay's catalog including, but not limited to, BLUEPRINT 3.

 

[rip.dilla]

You fail, Nas has been to Africa. He mentioned it in an interview that it's one of his favorite places to go.

Anyway, a Pop catastrophe like BP3 shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Distant Relatives. I'll agree with you that DR is not a classic, but to say that is equal to or less than BP3 is blasphemy, and i would recommend that stop listening to Hip Hop ASAP. The man is 40 years old and he puts Drake & Kid Cudi on his album. He picked some of the most horrible production of his career on that album. He was ripped by J. Cole, a freshman to the game. Only about 4 songs are up to par with Jay-Z's standard and that is not enough. You may like it, but you don't speak for the people who crave real music.

Everybody bitches about Nas' production choices, and it improved with Damian Marley handling it. It all related to the theme of the album. DR's theme forced Lil Wayne to step his subject matter game up and rap about something uplifting, whereas Jay-Z was rapping down to the likes of Jeezy. The album was elementary for Jay-Z, a 40 year old man. DR was an adult album for adult listeners. We aren't kids. Don't confuse sales and marketing with talent and artistry, that equals FAIL.

LOL... these lil' niggs can't handle the truth

 

[rip.dilla]

Here we go. Didn't the bolded just prove my point. SMH

It is an adult album and i say that bcuz a lot of children and teenagers don't know about Africa nor it's history. They don't teach about subjects like that in depth in grade school. Most of the content on the album was identical to THE JOURNAL OF AFRICAN CIVILIZATION written by Dr. Ivan Van Sertima et al, who also aren't studied in great detail in schools. Nas also said "they want the whole subject diminished, but Africa is the origin of the world's religions" which is also identical to Dr. Yosef Ben-Jochannan's books. These are books that teenagers and people of demographic don't read.

Jay-Z is 40 years old and he's rapping for children and teenagers, and not in a way to uplift them. This is the reason why the music doesn't grow. I gave my points: The production was terrible, the subject matter was too young for Jay to execute, and his flow and lyricism has seen better days. All of the aforementioned is in contrast to DR. The production on DR is better than typical Nas albums, by general consensus; the subject matter showed growth and intelligence to some of Nas' older music, and ALL of Jay's catalog including, but not limited to, BLUEPRINT 3.

Continue to school em...

 

[JokerzWyld]

Continue to school em...

Lol i'm just passionate about music. Seriously though, Blueprint 3 gets too much press, and is TOOOOOOOO Overrated. I never seen an artist so redundant with production so horrible(for him) get so much hype for a BS album. I really don't get it. Jigga Warriors never cease to amaze me.

 

[FlightKing]

Lol i'm just passionate about music. Seriously though, Blueprint 3 gets too much press, and is TOOOOOOOO Overrated. I never seen an artist so redundant with production so horrible(for him) get so much hype for a BS album. I really don't get it. Jigga Warriors never cease to amaze me.

I'm passionate about music too.
The statement about the press is more about the business of music, which Jay's team is good at.
Tell me though...which beats did you NOT like?

 

[JokerzWyld]

I'm passionate about music too.

The statement about the press is more about the business of music, which Jay's team is good at.

Tell me though...which beats did you NOT like?

Hate, Venus Vs. Mars, Already Home (the hook was trash too), & Off That, are standout TERRIBLE tracks as far as production. Reminder & So Ambitious was........ anyway, i wasn't at all impressed with that shyt.

I liked Empire State, ironically not for Jay-Z, and A Star Is Born - Jay-Z was going in, but J. Cole stole the show.

 

[BobOblah]

Nas' Verse on My Generation >>>>>>> Any other verse this year.

cosign.....