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sdrawkcabseh;859188 said:Cosign. Bruh, I remember I had an ex that thought she could "challenge" me and there would be no repercussions because she called me a "nice" guy( though I despise that term). We were in front of a group of people/her friends/my friends/group setting and the convo went like this:
Her: Sdrawkcabseh, You're a nice guy and all, but I think you should be more funny. I like a man that has a nice balance and is funny, but also has an edge. I need a man that can entertain me.
My response: Bitch, do I look like a circus to you?
Her: You're such a bastard, I thought you were a good man
My response: Well, that was a real man response.
I made that bitch walk home twelve miles and never heard from her again..............................................................
sdrawkcabseh;859325 said:You kinda said what I said( or paraphrased it for that matter). Of course, a man that is about self-development( which is a human beings first priority), is working on developing himself morally, spiritually, financially, and all of the other ways that a man is supposed to grow. However, the commonality among a lot of women is that they diss that type of man on his come up and then want to take credit for his life, even though they couldv'e cared less about it when he didn't have much money, and was pushing an old broke down whip to work. A lotta chicks wanna be Dr. Frankenstein, they want to create a "fantasy" man, that is mixed with good and bad, but they fail to realize that a good man is going to be a good man regardless.
They want a man to be what they want him to be, and they don't accept a man with potential. Those women get left in the dust. Good women find/have good men, because they know how to treat them. Example, ( I gave this story in another thread as well), my own cousin. This girl is twenty-seven, claims to be a "successful, independent" woman. Well anyway, I introduce her to a friend of mine who's an engineer. This brotha has no kids, is in his Phd program, works two jobs, and is an all around repsonsible, focused man. He was twenty eight at the time.
I introduced the two, and they went on two dates. A few weeks later I ask my cousin how her dating the engineer is going, and she says, " well he was kinda boring. I needed a man with more "edge". Everything was too easy with him." Not two weeks later, I find out my cousin is chasing this little thug nigga that stays two blocks from her. This cat already has three babymamas, no job, and roams the block with his boys all day long. She ends up pregnant by him and fast forward to today, this guy hasn't seen her son once. She's crying/lamenting that there "are no good men around, and men aint shit", and it's funny because now the engineer that she dissed now owns his own company, and is married to a beautiful woman that treats him with respect and doesn't view him as boring.
My cousin recently asked me for his number because she wants to "reconnect" with the engineer now. I told my cousin, and I quote, " he's with a woman that has never found him boring, you chased the "exciting" man, now deal with it................................
I needed a man with more "edge".
sdrawkcabseh;859821 said:But the difference between men and women is, men usually pick women that already have the requirements they want, women pick men that they think they can "mold" to have the requirements that they want. Women try to change men, while men simply change the woman that they're dealing with for a woman that won't try to change them.............................................
Fooley;860544 said:But you can't say men are hypocritical because they weren't the ones who started this equality movement, women did. They are going with the times because this is how it is now. If men always wanted it to be that way(women to be submissive), it's not hypocrisy. It is women who don't want equality all around but instead only in situations that benefit them. They don't want to be submissive, but want a man to provide for them. They want to be able to hit men, but men shouldn't hit back. They want to be considered equal, but not when it comes to parenting(they think women should have custody instead of men). They want to be treated with respect, but don't reciprocate it. A man should do all the hard household labor(mowing the lawn, fixing utilities, etc.) but they shouldn't have to be in the kitchen. Also, ladies still constantly try to tell men what a "real" man is. They continue to try and define the role of a man but yet they don't want to be defined themselves. You can't deny that women want men to provide for them.They expect the man to have a higher income than them. That in itself is hypocritical, because they expect equal pay but then want a man who makes more than them. Women also expect men to cater to them. Anniversaries, Valentines Day, Marriage(wedding ring) and the and men have to buy gifts(Chivalry). Also, if women were such big advocates of equality, why aren't they in the streets protesting like they once were? It's because they like being in a position that's beneficial to them. Women get custody 80% of the time so yes there is a big discrepancy and obvious discrimination based on gender. You can't go from one extreme to another extreme, that's illogical. Men were automatically given custody in previous times, and now generally women are given that privilege.
Also, men do want to be gentlemanly, but they don't want to be gentlemanly if you don't want to be submissive. Women expect chivalry and a provider, but don't want to be a submissive partner. That's not an equal trade off. Women are the one's who want it to be an equal partnership but have all these qualifications a man has to meet.
Soulljah T;862605 said:These "nice guys", y'all need to realize that when women say a guy is too nice it means you're boring. Some women don't wanan change their nice guys, but they want them to come out of their shell more, bring out their personalities more, not change, there's a diff.
isayas;862672 said:Maybe, that's their persona? So, how is someone gonna to come out what they've been that way all their lives? EX: I'm boring due to the fact that I don't make you laugh and entertain you. (That's not me, just an example)
Soulljah T;862689 said:Well, if it's one thing a woman GOT to have it's a man that can make her laugh, with an enjoyable personality....who wants to be someone you don't click with, you don't enjoy? Not everyone will be right for each other, it isn't a big deal if she isn't feeling you & thinks you're not funny, if so then it just wasn't meant to be, no need to judge her and make all these wrong assumptions about her, that's being a sore loser to me...ppl are gonna get rejected....but hopefully you will be enjoyable to someone else. If being funny isn't your thing and this certain girl calls you out for it, you can't make yourself be funny to her standards, just gotta move on to someone who will click diff with you...
isayas;862706 said:Hmmmmm, I see your point, but still not every man is a Comedian. Not every woman wants a clown, tho.
Soulljah T;862738 said:Being funny to her standards or enjoying herself to him doesn't make him a clown. You guys are misunderstanding clicking & being compatible with someone to "being their clown". That isn't what it is. You need to think more deeply and not so simplistic.
isayas;862752 said:To me, I see that most women want a clown, that's my opinion. She can enjoy herself without humor? What about the convos about anything? Is it a mandatory to make her laugh?
Soulljah T;862775 said:Well your opinion is misguided, you don't understand how women think & work so you're using your misinformed male perpestive to try & understand women. It's not that she wants a clown, she just wants to enjoy herself with her man, find that release with him, laugh with him, have fun with him, it's that simple and you men are making it into this completely diff thing that it isn't.
Soulljah T;862775 said:Well your opinion is misguided, you don't understand how women think & work so you're using your misinformed male perpestive to try & understand women. It's not that she wants a clown, she just wants to enjoy herself with her man, find that release with him, laugh with him, have fun with him, it's that simple and you men are making it into this completely diff thing that it isn't.
isayas;862787 said:Maybe, you're right, but that's how I review it. You don't need to laugh to have a good time. You can just have great conversation or doin' a very enjoyable activities. Laughter isn't the only way to have with someone, if it is. Some of these non-humorous individual won't have dates.
Soulljah T;862819 said:Lol wow, I'm sorry but that's ridiculous. Laughter is very important, who odesn't wanna laugh with their partner? You need to be able to let your serious side down for a lil' sometimes & laugh and be pleasant, what, you don't want to just because you know women like that, kinda ridiculous, it's just having fun sometimes, everyone needs a lil' laughter in their life, it's beautiul, it's magic, it's a lovily thing and QB 4TH EDITION SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Soulljah T;862819 said:Lol wow, I'm sorry but that's ridiculous. Laughter is very important, who odesn't wanna laugh with their partner? You need to be able to let your serious side down for a lil' sometimes & laugh and be pleasant, what, you don't want to just because you know women like that, kinda ridiculous, it's just having fun sometimes, everyone needs a lil' laughter in their life, it's beautiul, it's magic, it's a lovily thing and QB 4TH EDITION SHUT THE FUCK UP.
isayas;862843 said:But there's some individual out there that don't care, that's what I'm tryin' to tell you. There's gonna be a woman that don't care for humor. So, why does one bein' boring means he's not funny sufficient? I know it's a lovily to MOST, but not to all women.
Soulljah T;862857 said:Ugh you don't have to be a comdedian, but you need to have a fun side, an easy side that can laugh and be laughed at....take it easy and be pleasant....just an enjoyable personality.....