Did they edit the Bible from Satan to God in some parts?

[alissowack]

Though this is not the answer to the question, this is something to consider. We all have this notion of Satan being this being that is all about being immoral; making people get caught up in sex, drugs and...whatever else. But we fail to see that even Satan knows how to follow the rules. He can do good as is an "angel of light"; however he can do so at the expense of distracting the world from the real problem.

 

[beenwize]

Though this is not the answer to the question, this is something to consider. We all have this notion of Satan being this being that is all about being immoral; making people get caught up in sex, drugs and...whatever else. But we fail to see that even Satan knows how to follow the rules. He can do good as is an "angel of light"; however he can do so at the expense of distracting the world from the real problem.

what do u think of the two scriptures posted in which one uses God and the other uses Satan for the same act?

and what do u consider the "real problem"?

 

[alissowack]

what do u think of the two scriptures posted in which one uses God and the other uses Satan for the same act?

and what do u consider the "real problem"?

To me...the two scriptures suggest this...what God intends for good, Satan wants to use for evil. What the "evil" is escapes me for the moment. I could guess and say that it has something to do with Satan feeding into David's pride...I could be wrong.

Well, the real problem is sin. Sure, it sounds like something you've heard before, but I believe there in an underestimation of it; that if we just "knew" what sin is in respect to God, then we would see that our hands can do nothing to remedy it. The two scriptures kind of hint to just how potent sin is.

 

[beenwize]

To me...the two scriptures suggest this...what God intends for good, Satan wants to use for evil. What the "evil" is escapes me for the moment. I could guess and say that it has something to do with Satan feeding into David's pride...I could be wrong.

Well, the real problem is sin. Sure, it sounds like something you've heard before, but I believe there in an underestimation of it; that if we just "knew" what sin is in respect to God, then we would see that our hands can do nothing to remedy it. The two scriptures kind of hint to just how potent sin is.

So you are saying that both God and Satan wanted David to number Israel? If thats the case then why does one scripture say GOd and fail to mention Satan and the other says Satan but fails to mention God?

And if the purpose of God saying to number Israel was good then why does it say God was angry and actually had people killed for doing what he wanted David to do?

 

[alissowack]

So you are saying that both God and Satan wanted David to number Israel? If thats the case then why does one scripture say GOd and fail to mention Satan and the other says Satan but fails to mention God?

And if the purpose of God saying to number Israel was good then why does it say God was angry and actually had people killed for doing what he wanted David to do?

The issue isn't so much who told David to do something. The issue isn't even about good or evil. The issue is with sin. Because of sin, we can never obey or make a choice that glorifies God. In David's case, Satan's word was a lot more "honorable" than God's Word...and it was for the same act of obedience.

 

[beenwize]

The issue isn't so much who told David to do something. The issue isn't even about good or evil. The issue is with sin. Because of sin, we can never obey or make a choice that glorifies God. In David's case, Satan's word was a lot more "honorable" than God's Word...and it was for the same act of obedience.

i understand about what u are saying about sin. but this is not the topic i am speaking on. i am speaking on the 2 scriptures that portray the same act to number israel but one is by Satan and the other God.

In both instances GOd kills people for numbering Israel but in one scripture God ordered David to number Israel so it doesnt make complete sense and u might know what I mean but u keep changing the subject into sin.

 

[b*braze]

NB4 judahxulu sons this thread with a proper hebrew translation...

my opinion tho is it might just be alluding to some type of duality of good/evil mumbo jumbo or some shit like that

 

[alissowack]

i understand about what u are saying about sin. but this is not the topic i am speaking on. i am speaking on the 2 scriptures that portray the same act to number israel but one is by Satan and the other God.

In both instances GOd kills people for numbering Israel but in one scripture God ordered David to number Israel so it doesnt make complete sense and u might know what I mean but u keep changing the subject into sin.

I know it appears as if I am changing the subject. I'm not intentionally trying to change the subject. Sin is the reason why God has people killed.

 

[Rebelde.Conocido]

The bible was created for mind control. God/Satan is all a fraudulent scheme design to conquer people by the Europeans.

 

[beenwize]

The bible was created for mind control. God/Satan is all a fraudulent scheme design to conquer people by the Europeans.

It might be possible that the Bible was changed around with all the editing, revisions, and translations but for the most part I believe it to be the word of God.

 

[Rock_Well]

No, that's not the case here.

 

[Rock_Well]

The issue isn't so much who told David to do something. The issue isn't even about good or evil. The issue is with sin. Because of sin, we can never obey or make a choice that glorifies God. In David's case, Satan's word was a lot more "honorable" than God's Word...and it was for the same act of obedience.

Nah, it doesn't say God gave word to do it, nor does it say Satan gave word. It says 'moved'. It was David's word that got them in trouble, check 2 Samuel 24:4.

 

[alissowack]

Nah, it doesn't say God gave word to do it, nor does it say Satan gave word. It says 'moved'. It was David's word that got them in trouble, check 2 Samuel 24:4.

Well, maybe not words...but there was influence.

 

[beenwize]

I know it appears as if I am changing the subject. I'm not intentionally trying to change the subject. Sin is the reason why God has people killed.

oh please i didnt ask u nothing about no sin. i asked u why does one scripture say God commited an act and the other one says Satan did the act. How can 2 people commit the same act was my question to u... stop changing the subject like your brain is not functioning correctly.

 

[alissowack]

oh please i didnt ask u nothing about no sin. i asked u why does one scripture say God commited an act and the other one says Satan did the act. How can 2 people commit the same act was my question to u... stop changing the subject like your brain is not functioning correctly.

Well, how does God (or Satan) is suppose to act? What you want is a reason to justify the motives for why two entities would put poor David through that. And...there is no answer for it...and for someone to try to explain it to you would leave you scratching your head a little more. Unfortunately, at the end of the day, the issue of sin still remains.

 

[judahxulu]

oh please i didnt ask u nothing about no sin. i asked u why does one scripture say God commited an act and the other one says Satan did the act. How can 2 people commit the same act was my question to u... stop changing the subject like your brain is not functioning correctly.

an undercover agent named smith busts u on a huge coke deal. he works for the dea which is a law enforcement agency but he has the ability to break the law in order to catch drug dealers. who busted you? agent smith or the dea? both. would there be a need for agent smith if there were no drugs? no. so whose fault is it? yours. so in essence the law remained constant aand u chose to go against the grain which caused a chain reaction. overstand the metaphor and be at peace.

 

[Rock_Well]

Thank you. ^ i didn't rly care to do the honors first.

But i'll add another ex. for the extra slow.

My friend at a entire bag of chips yesterday after smoking. You understand that doesn't mean he was munching on plastic, rather that he ate the contents in the bag. The statement is still accurate though because the bag is representation of what's in it.

Also, Yah removed His protection from David and allowed Satan to tempt David because He was mad with Israel. In this, He uses David weakness as a opportunity to teach them a real life lesson. Satan actually tempted David, but it was done w/ Yah's approval which in an indirect sense kind of makes it Yah's doing. But like i said, it's still was David's word, that's why he's held responsible.

 

[judahxulu]

Thank you. ^ i didn't rly care to do the honors first.

But i'll add another ex. for the extra slow.

My friend at a entire bag of chips yesterday after smoking. You understand that doesn't mean he was munching on plastic, rather that he ate the contents in the bag. The statement is still accurate though because the bag is representation of what's in it.

Also, Yah removed His protection from David and allowed Satan to tempt David because He was mad with Israel. In this, He uses David weakness as a opportunity to teach them a real life lesson. Satan actually tempted David, but it was done w/ Yah's approval which in an indirect sense kind of makes it Yah's doing. But like i said, it's still was David's word, that's why he's held responsible.

i see u been studying, huh? good stuff..

 

[Rock_Well]

i see u been studying, huh? good stuff..

u too, i see u ...i fell off on studying for a minute actually been recently trying to get back in it

 

[VIBE]

Thought the devil wasnt even a real being?