Did the book of Exodus really happen?

[zombie]

There's a long list of famous and wealthy atheists. Google it.

yeah but their atheism did not give them money nor motivate them to get it

How the fuck do you know what people's motivations are?

because I am intelligent and knowing what motivates people is extremely important to one of the ways that I make a living

and by the way bill gates is evil

If Bill Gates hadn't help engineered the microchip processor, you wouldn't be able to type any bullshit, you dumbshit.

You think you're intelligent?

What's your two base comparative IQ score? I'd be surprised if you shaved 108 max.

I know I am intelligent.

and IQ tests don't accurately test intelligence.

 

[zombie]

and by the way bill gates is evil

If Bill Gates hadn't help engineered the microchip processor, you wouldn't be able to type any bullshit, you dumbshit.

and by the way which microchip processor did be engineer?? I am not aware of him ever having done that

 

[zombie]

I'm going home and pray for ya'll.

Talk to invisible entities in the street, it's schizophrenia. Do it on your knees with hands together or in church, it's prayer.

Crazy is crazy, invisible friends past the age of 8 are still considered a sign of mental illness or lack of development. Call it religion, it's okay?

Ha.

There's a long list of famous and wealthy atheists. Google it.

yeah but their atheism did not give them money nor motivate them to get it

A desire to understand beyond the faith based limitations of the divine are the reason Bill Nye, Neil Degrasse-Tyson, Richard Dawkins, Bill Gates, Brad Pitt... these folks have made money and contributed to the arts because they have no fear of God.

You want more?
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/23/10_celebs_you_didnt_know_were_atheists_partner/
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-influential/the-8-richest-outspoken-atheist-celebrities/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2010/10/28/the-generous-atheist-billionaires/

Please, please try to argue Christopher Hitchens and Dawkins didn't get a new tax bracket through atheism. I'd like to try see a legless man try win a marathon. Money is made via mass exploitation via profitable idealism. If you believe in religion, that's evident. Cathedrals weren't built through charity.

Ok you have hitches and dawkins but the vast majority of atheist who have money were not motivated to get it by atheism. And do you have any proof that bill gates and brad pitt contributed to the arts because they don't belive in god??? lol stop talking out of your ass. these people got money and they are atheist but that does not mean atheism was the factor and motivated them.

militant atheist are the most pathetic people on the planet

I gave you LISTS. LISTS, you ADHD fucker. You can't be bothered to click shit and see everyone else from Brad Pitt to Neil Degrasse-Tyson living lavish for questioning ancient bullshit, I can't lead a dumbass to enlightenment if you got a mouse at your hands and can't right click worth a shit.

Those sites don't list a fucking thing that has to do with the point that was made that is why I disregarded them.

I never questioned there being rich atheist the question was does atheism by itself motivate anyone to get rich.

 

[zombie]

and by the way bill gates is evil

If Bill Gates hadn't help engineered the microchip processor, you wouldn't be able to type any bullshit, you dumbshit.

and by the way which microchip processor did be engineer?? I am not aware of him ever having done that

Read a book that's not the Bible completely and not selectively, you stupid ass. Why you think he's worth billions?

Download Google App, dumbshit. He gave you that capability.

What a fucking idiot you are... how do they let you outside without an escort?

bill gates made his money not by engineering computer hardware but by running companies he never engineered a fucking thing, you think you are so smart but you just showed how ignorant you are. the company that made him a super billionaire makes software they don't focus on hardware like microchips.

 

[zombie]

I'm going home and pray for ya'll.

Talk to invisible entities in the street, it's schizophrenia. Do it on your knees with hands together or in church, it's prayer.

Crazy is crazy, invisible friends past the age of 8 are still considered a sign of mental illness or lack of development. Call it religion, it's okay?

Ha.

There's a long list of famous and wealthy atheists. Google it.

yeah but their atheism did not give them money nor motivate them to get it

A desire to understand beyond the faith based limitations of the divine are the reason Bill Nye, Neil Degrasse-Tyson, Richard Dawkins, Bill Gates, Brad Pitt... these folks have made money and contributed to the arts because they have no fear of God.

You want more?
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/23/10_celebs_you_didnt_know_were_atheists_partner/
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-influential/the-8-richest-outspoken-atheist-celebrities/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2010/10/28/the-generous-atheist-billionaires/

Please, please try to argue Christopher Hitchens and Dawkins didn't get a new tax bracket through atheism. I'd like to try see a legless man try win a marathon. Money is made via mass exploitation via profitable idealism. If you believe in religion, that's evident. Cathedrals weren't built through charity.

Ok you have hitches and dawkins but the vast majority of atheist who have money were not motivated to get it by atheism. And do you have any proof that bill gates and brad pitt contributed to the arts because they don't belive in god??? lol stop talking out of your ass. these people got money and they are atheist but that does not mean atheism was the factor and motivated them.

militant atheist are the most pathetic people on the planet

I gave you LISTS. LISTS, you ADHD fucker. You can't be bothered to click shit and see everyone else from Brad Pitt to Neil Degrasse-Tyson living lavish for questioning ancient bullshit, I can't lead a dumbass to enlightenment if you got a mouse at your hands and can't right click worth a shit.

Those sites don't list a fucking thing that has to do with the point that was made that is why I disregarded them.

I never questioned there being rich atheist the question was does atheism by itself motivate anyone to get rich.

Providing knowledge to others gets rewarded, it's called meritocracy. Get with it.

that has nothing to do with the the question that was asked. get the sand out of your pussy

 

[PapaDoc223]

@PapaDoc223‌

Yes god is a war god, this should be news to no one and yes he allowed ancient israel to slaughter their opponents this was done for the betterment of all mankind as it established the god israel for all time, and allowed israel to bring the messiah to mankind as it was his plan to redeem mankind from it's eventual destruction. That's why israel was chosen to be a "light to the nations" and it is from abraham that we get the 3 major religions of the world.

SO YES ISRAEL WAS CHOSEN but that does not mean he loved them more for all eternity, simply put they were used by god for the greater good of mankind, and according to the bible these same chosen people spent generations in slavery in egypt and after that at the hands of the romans.

that's why thousands of years later the belief in him is still going strong in most parts of the world and the gods of israels enemies are in the dustbin of history.

It is actually not god's job to stop people from doing evil to each other, this is the one thing that many people don't seem to grasp and many preachers don't preach because it's a hard pill to swallow. God is not a genie he is not going to keep all physical pain away it's not his job to stop theives in the night or stop rape and slavery, it's our job to not do those things in the first place, he redeems more than he prevents. People attribute little small things to him more than they probably should the bible says it rains on the good and the bad.

finally black people in america 2014 are no longer slaves, today we read the bible ourselves and come to our own conculsions. If you say that today we are brainwashed than in essence what you are saying is that black people are of inferior mind.

So if he is a God of war he can't be a God of love. Plus he used the Israelites as pawns to exterminate people then he is a sadist. So the people that didnt worship intead of appearing to them he allowed them to wiped out,enslaved and raped by the israelites. So this was God's plan:

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."

Deuteronomy 21:10-14.

So basically fuck the people who get murdered and wiped out as long as his religion comes out on top that is all that matters. He not only a God of war but a sadist God.

Now you say it is not Gods job to stop evil. So if that is the case then people should all stop praying to him. If does not intercede to stop evil then he does not answer prayer. Baiscally God sits back and just watch how the world goes and see what happens next.

Christianity was forced upon our ancestors. It was a vehicle to say "I conquer you." Religion is the organization of spirituality into something that became the handmaiden of conquerors. Nearly all religions were brought to people by conquerors. And used as the framework to control their minds. This was done to us and yes we are not slaves but Christianity was not given to us to nice missionaires but by the whip.

 

[zombie]

@PapaDoc223‌

Yes god is a war god, this should be news to no one and yes he allowed ancient israel to slaughter their opponents this was done for the betterment of all mankind as it established the god israel for all time, and allowed israel to bring the messiah to mankind as it was his plan to redeem mankind from it's eventual destruction. That's why israel was chosen to be a "light to the nations" and it is from abraham that we get the 3 major religions of the world.

SO YES ISRAEL WAS CHOSEN but that does not mean he loved them more for all eternity, simply put they were used by god for the greater good of mankind, and according to the bible these same chosen people spent generations in slavery in egypt and after that at the hands of the romans.

that's why thousands of years later the belief in him is still going strong in most parts of the world and the gods of israels enemies are in the dustbin of history.

It is actually not god's job to stop people from doing evil to each other, this is the one thing that many people don't seem to grasp and many preachers don't preach because it's a hard pill to swallow. God is not a genie he is not going to keep all physical pain away it's not his job to stop theives in the night or stop rape and slavery, it's our job to not do those things in the first place, he redeems more than he prevents. People attribute little small things to him more than they probably should the bible says it rains on the good and the bad.

finally black people in america 2014 are no longer slaves, today we read the bible ourselves and come to our own conculsions. If you say that today we are brainwashed than in essence what you are saying is that black people are of inferior mind.

So if he is a God of war he can't be a God of love. Plus he used the Israelites as pawns to exterminate people then he is a sadist. So the people that didnt worship intead of appearing to them he allowed them to wiped out,enslaved and raped by the israelites. So this was God's plan:

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."

Deuteronomy 21:10-14.

So basically fuck the people who get murdered and wiped out as long as his religion comes out on top that is all that matters. He not only a God of war but a sadist God.

Now you say it is not Gods job to stop evil. So if that is the case then people should all stop praying to him. If does not intercede to stop evil then he does not answer prayer. Baiscally God sits back and just watch how the world goes and see what happens next.

Christianity was forced upon our ancestors. It was a vehicle to say "I conquer you." Religion is the organization of spirituality into something that became the handmaiden of conquerors. Nearly all religions were brought to people by conquerors. And used as the framework to control their minds. This was done to us and yes we are not slaves but Christianity was not given to us to nice missionaires but by the whip.

war is not mutually exculsive with love and sometimes fighting is an expression of love and yes he used Israel to accomplish his goal and yes from the human perspective people died doing so but you have to remember no one ever really dies from god's perspective. we go to sheol and later on we will either go to heaven or be thrown into the pit.

when I say it's not his job to stop evil I means it's not his job to always come down and basically use magic to fix everything. he has already given us all that is needed to fix all our serious problems that is what the christ did.

Nice quote from dr.clark but I know how most black people were introduced to the religion but we are no longer in the days of slavery. the religion continues because of what if does for the souls of it's believers what we decide to do with the religion is up to us and by the way it's not even the Europeans religion. Christianity in it's pure form is much more African than it is European.

 

[zombie]

and by the way bill gates is evil

If Bill Gates hadn't help engineered the microchip processor, you wouldn't be able to type any bullshit, you dumbshit.

and by the way which microchip processor did be engineer?? I am not aware of him ever having done that

Read a book that's not the Bible completely and not selectively, you stupid ass. Why you think he's worth billions?

Download Google App, dumbshit. He gave you that capability.

What a fucking idiot you are... how do they let you outside without an escort?

bill gates made his money not by engineering computer hardware but by running companies he never engineered a fucking thing, you think you are so smart but you just showed how ignorant you are. the company that made him a super billionaire makes software they don't focus on hardware like microchips.

You literally don't know what you're talking about.

You even understand what an Intel processor is?

God, you're so stupid pretending to be smart, you're like a motherfucker struggling with an abacus pretending you understand spatial physics. You're such a fucking idiot you can't see how you're being an idiot because your ego surpasses your intellect.

bill gates did not create the intell processor what the fuck are you talking about?? now i see you are just an angry little faggot. bill gates wrote code that's not the same as engineering a chip religious argument aside you are factually incorrect

intell created the first mircoprocessor in 1971 bill gates was in high school and he never worked for intell

 

[Ajackson17]

There is little evidence that Joshua and deutronomy and judges even happened. Hell Hebrew comes from cannanite influences not the other way. The influences of cannanite in Israel is strong so most of the violence was written hundreds of years later as propaganda until Nebucanazzer got in this ass nh

 

[kingblaze84]

and by the way bill gates is evil

If Bill Gates hadn't help engineered the microchip processor, you wouldn't be able to type any bullshit, you dumbshit.

and by the way which microchip processor did be engineer?? I am not aware of him ever having done that

Read a book that's not the Bible completely and not selectively, you stupid ass. Why you think he's worth billions?

Download Google App, dumbshit. He gave you that capability.

What a fucking idiot you are... how do they let you outside without an escort?

LOL damn

 

[Ajackson17]

I mean in Israel ass NH not my ass Oh hell no

 

[kingblaze84]

I mean in Israel ass NH not my ass Oh hell no

I was about to say lol....I don't judge either way but whoa

 

[zombie]

you fucking delusional atheists and God haters have allowed hate to rott your brains.

one of you claim Bill gates engineered microchips with no proof of this. the other is a coward who denies the clear answers given to him.

 

[zombie]

Who did Bill Gates work for before he formed Microsoft, aka microchip/scopic software? IBM, aka International Business Machines .... God, you are are so fucking dumb, even when you try to be smart, you just prove how fucking dumb you actually are. Read books, you fucking chump.

Bill gates never work for intell and even if he did he did not engineer a ducking microchip. Do you have any sourc to back your claim

 

[zombie]

I never said he worked for Intel. I said he worked for IBM and he did when Micro-Soft as a start up partnered with IBM to develop the first IBM PC. Gates developed the DOS system for 50k. It was by allowing the licensing of DOS that Microsoft expanded. The microprocessor he and Paul Allen was a more compact and advanced version of the processor MITS developed initially, hence their ability to patent the micro processor for themselves.

You are such a doofus, you keep challenging me and you don't know fuck all. Do you not ever stop to read books?

You said he engineered a fucking mirco processor. all bill gates really did from a technical standpoint was work on code.

and by the way bill gates is evil

If Bill Gates hadn't help engineered the microchip processor, you wouldn't be able to type any bullshit, you dumbshit.

once again writing code and engineering a microprocessor are two different things you are factually incorrect deal with it

 

[beenwize]

@PapaDoc223‌

Yes god is a war god, this should be news to no one and yes he allowed ancient israel to slaughter their opponents this was done for the betterment of all mankind as it established the god israel for all time, and allowed israel to bring the messiah to mankind as it was his plan to redeem mankind from it's eventual destruction. That's why israel was chosen to be a "light to the nations" and it is from abraham that we get the 3 major religions of the world.

SO YES ISRAEL WAS CHOSEN but that does not mean he loved them more for all eternity, simply put they were used by god for the greater good of mankind, and according to the bible these same chosen people spent generations in slavery in egypt and after that at the hands of the romans.

that's why thousands of years later the belief in him is still going strong in most parts of the world and the gods of israels enemies are in the dustbin of history.

It is actually not god's job to stop people from doing evil to each other, this is the one thing that many people don't seem to grasp and many preachers don't preach because it's a hard pill to swallow. God is not a genie he is not going to keep all physical pain away it's not his job to stop theives in the night or stop rape and slavery, it's our job to not do those things in the first place, he redeems more than he prevents. People attribute little small things to him more than they probably should the bible says it rains on the good and the bad.

finally black people in america 2014 are no longer slaves, today we read the bible ourselves and come to our own conculsions. If you say that today we are brainwashed than in essence what you are saying is that black people are of inferior mind.

So if he is a God of war he can't be a God of love. Plus he used the Israelites as pawns to exterminate people then he is a sadist. So the people that didnt worship intead of appearing to them he allowed them to wiped out,enslaved and raped by the israelites. So this was God's plan:

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."

Deuteronomy 21:10-14.

So basically fuck the people who get murdered and wiped out as long as his religion comes out on top that is all that matters. He not only a God of war but a sadist God.

Now you say it is not Gods job to stop evil. So if that is the case then people should all stop praying to him. If does not intercede to stop evil then he does not answer prayer. Baiscally God sits back and just watch how the world goes and see what happens next.

Christianity was forced upon our ancestors. It was a vehicle to say "I conquer you." Religion is the organization of spirituality into something that became the handmaiden of conquerors. Nearly all religions were brought to people by conquerors. And used as the framework to control their minds. This was done to us and yes we are not slaves but Christianity was not given to us to nice missionaires but by the whip.

You brought up some interesting points..

 

[beenwize]

@PapaDoc223‌

Yes god is a war god, this should be news to no one and yes he allowed ancient israel to slaughter their opponents this was done for the betterment of all mankind as it established the god israel for all time, and allowed israel to bring the messiah to mankind as it was his plan to redeem mankind from it's eventual destruction. That's why israel was chosen to be a "light to the nations" and it is from abraham that we get the 3 major religions of the world.

SO YES ISRAEL WAS CHOSEN but that does not mean he loved them more for all eternity, simply put they were used by god for the greater good of mankind, and according to the bible these same chosen people spent generations in slavery in egypt and after that at the hands of the romans.

that's why thousands of years later the belief in him is still going strong in most parts of the world and the gods of israels enemies are in the dustbin of history.

It is actually not god's job to stop people from doing evil to each other, this is the one thing that many people don't seem to grasp and many preachers don't preach because it's a hard pill to swallow. God is not a genie he is not going to keep all physical pain away it's not his job to stop theives in the night or stop rape and slavery, it's our job to not do those things in the first place, he redeems more than he prevents. People attribute little small things to him more than they probably should the bible says it rains on the good and the bad.

finally black people in america 2014 are no longer slaves, today we read the bible ourselves and come to our own conculsions. If you say that today we are brainwashed than in essence what you are saying is that black people are of inferior mind.

So if he is a God of war he can't be a God of love. Plus he used the Israelites as pawns to exterminate people then he is a sadist. So the people that didnt worship intead of appearing to them he allowed them to wiped out,enslaved and raped by the israelites. So this was God's plan:

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."

Deuteronomy 21:10-14.

So basically fuck the people who get murdered and wiped out as long as his religion comes out on top that is all that matters. He not only a God of war but a sadist God.

Now you say it is not Gods job to stop evil. So if that is the case then people should all stop praying to him. If does not intercede to stop evil then he does not answer prayer. Baiscally God sits back and just watch how the world goes and see what happens next.

Christianity was forced upon our ancestors. It was a vehicle to say "I conquer you." Religion is the organization of spirituality into something that became the handmaiden of conquerors. Nearly all religions were brought to people by conquerors. And used as the framework to control their minds. This was done to us and yes we are not slaves but Christianity was not given to us to nice missionaires but by the whip.

war is not mutually exculsive with love and sometimes fighting is an expression of love and yes he used Israel to accomplish his goal and yes from the human perspective people died doing so but you have to remember no one ever really dies from god's perspective. we go to sheol and later on we will either go to heaven or be thrown into the pit.

when I say it's not his job to stop evil I means it's not his job to always come down and basically use magic to fix everything. he has already given us all that is needed to fix all our serious problems that is what the christ did.

Nice quote from dr.clark but I know how most black people were introduced to the religion but we are no longer in the days of slavery. the religion continues because of what if does for the souls of it's believers what we decide to do with the religion is up to us and by the way it's not even the Europeans religion. Christianity in it's pure form is much more African than it is European.

What I don't understand is if God is all knowing why would he create someone just to throw them in a pit of fire for all eternity? Something don't add up.

 

[Ajackson17]

Free will and there are millions of paths and one righteous path and other paths that get back on to righteousness. In my view of using physics in lament terms.

 

[zombie]

I never said he worked for Intel. I said he worked for IBM and he did when Micro-Soft as a start up partnered with IBM to develop the first IBM PC. Gates developed the DOS system for 50k. It was by allowing the licensing of DOS that Microsoft expanded. The microprocessor he and Paul Allen was a more compact and advanced version of the processor MITS developed initially, hence their ability to patent the micro processor for themselves.

You are such a doofus, you keep challenging me and you don't know fuck all. Do you not ever stop to read books?

You said he engineered a fucking mirco processor. all bill gates really did from a technical standpoint was work on code.

and by the way bill gates is evil

If Bill Gates hadn't help engineered the microchip processor, you wouldn't be able to type any bullshit, you dumbshit.

once again writing code and engineering a microprocessor are two different things you are factually incorrect deal with it

Factually?



You support the idea of a deity beyond physical boundaries as existing in the physical universe.



The higher gradation of computation were established by the Gates/Allen team that advanced the capabilities of a processor so it could be shrunk down to less than an inch while maintaining performance capability. IBM processors were 2 inches or so, hence, the adevent of Micro Software Processors.

I am getting tired of arguing with you because I really wish you knew more than you do but it is clear you don't and aren't invested in learning better and more sooner, it's tiring and sad to be dealing with someone with half a deck of old cards who can't even contend with a new full deck to gamble with.

You know that just because there are microsoft microchip processors that that does not mean bill gates engineered them right?? you are such a fucking fool convinced of your own intelligence that you cannot grasp simple logic and facts i have said it before and i will say it again i am not impressed by you. You have not proved your intellect.

@ bolded that has nothing to do with the fact that bill gates never created a microchip.

 

[waterproof]

YAH don't deal with weak men, gird your loins, yeah he is an elohim of War and the Torah is half Art of War to deal with heathens like yall