Did the book of Exodus really happen?

[waterproof]

Why doesn't archeology doesn't agree with what happened in the Torah? And a lot of it is highly exaggerated and just not true. There are cities mention in Joshua that never existed in those times. It's safe to say it has historic significance but shouldn't be taken as a completely historical book.

Don't believe the Hype, in Israel they got so much evidence locked up from archeological digs for many years, there's historical sites that's blocked off, some of them are locked and hidden away in the Vatican

Could be either side to support or denounce it. Same with Egypt and Sumerian stuff. Also, read the Hebrew showing there are other Elohim and El'oa. And they are not enemies, it's deeper than hip hop and we don't have the official story in my opinion.

Brother scripture says there's elohims, But there is only one who is above them all, and everything that he speaks came into existence, you want to know how Egypt fall, and who was the cause read the Torah,

You want to know where the original Egyptians descendants are when some left during the invasion read the Torah those people are right in that spot today

 

[waterproof]

Who made us God?

The really question is, why did we make God?

The simple truth it before people knew better, before science and mathematics, it was easier to assume the weather, natural phenomena, plagues and diseases were a result of God's punishing mankind. It's why people that got the plague self flagellated rather than, you know, not pissing and shitting in the street, attracting rats and infecting the water supply.

Now we know better, we understand the ideas of disinfecting, cross contamination, not shitting where you eat, drainage and sanitation... we don't need to believe in invisible forces that exist on other planes of existence. We used to think angels lived in the clouds and Heaven was in the sky before we invented jets.

"pieces of data are just speculation"?

Let me drop this once again...

Science is science. It is proven, not invested in by the deluded who called their wrong headed and learned propaganda "faith". Science to you is not more valid than a 1800 year old collection of stories based on reinterpreted Akkadian myths? Do you realise the first higher God that unified faiths was the two headed jaguar serpent of the Olmec people?

Do you even understand the principle of the scientific method? The idea of the half life of facts, the constant reappraisal and formation of new methods to better understand the universe and our natural world?

There is evidence a man named Jesus who came from Nazareth preached the Jewish faith as a wandering prophet with disciples but beyond that, there is nothing more to substantiate any of the myths or miracles he is alleged to have carried out.

Those ancient Hebrew science and miracles that the Messiah done is the same thing that the Yogis Dravidians are doing and been doing for centuries

 

[soul rattler]

Incidentally, anyone else getting the "your post will appear after it has been moderated" box appearing constantly so they have to repost their stuff 4-6 times or is it just me?

I think you, because you are doing a lot of ethering.

Yeah. Somebody got their feelings hurt.

 

[janklow]

The statement "the bible was meant to be taken literally" does not translate as "EVERYTHING in the bible was meant to be taken literally". That's a fallacy of division.

then why are you disputing my contention that not every part of the Bible --possibly to include Exodus-- is meant to be taken literally?

 

[kingblaze84]

Incidentally, anyone else getting the "your post will appear after it has been moderated" box appearing constantly so they have to repost their stuff 4-6 times or is it just me?

I think you, because you are doing a lot of ethering.

Exactly. The truth is hurtful to people at times. But it needs to be said because the Bible god historically has caused a lot of problems and misery for human kind. I believe in some kind of higher power but not the kind of nonsense seen in the Bible.

 

[zombie]

Incidentally, anyone else getting the "your post will appear after it has been moderated" box appearing constantly so they have to repost their stuff 4-6 times or is it just me?

I think you, because you are doing a lot of ethering.

Exactly. The truth is hurtful to people at times. But it needs to be said because the Bible god historically has caused a lot of problems and misery for human kind. I believe in some kind of higher power but not the kind of nonsense seen in the Bible.

So you believe in a higher power but it has to act according to what makes sense to you??? does that really make sense to you

 

[Alkinduz]

Incidentally, anyone else getting the "your post will appear after it has been moderated" box appearing constantly so they have to repost their stuff 4-6 times or is it just me?

I think you, because you are doing a lot of ethering.

Exactly. The truth is hurtful to people at times. But it needs to be said because the Bible god historically has caused a lot of problems and misery for human kind. I believe in some kind of higher power but not the kind of nonsense seen in the Bible.

So you believe in a higher power but it has to act according to what makes sense to you??? does that really make sense to you

*slams fist on the table

there is more to the world than the bible. Just like you probably think the bvagavad gita(spell check) is loaded with non sense, mr.kingblaze feels the same regarding your christian bible.

 

[zombie]

Incidentally, anyone else getting the "your post will appear after it has been moderated" box appearing constantly so they have to repost their stuff 4-6 times or is it just me?

I think you, because you are doing a lot of ethering.

Exactly. The truth is hurtful to people at times. But it needs to be said because the Bible god historically has caused a lot of problems and misery for human kind. I believe in some kind of higher power but not the kind of nonsense seen in the Bible.

So you believe in a higher power but it has to act according to what makes sense to you??? does that really make sense to you

*slams fist on the table

there is more to the world than the bible. Just like you probably think the bvagavad gita(spell check) is loaded with non sense, mr.kingblaze feels the same regarding your christian bible.

I actually don't think the bhagavad gita is filled with nonsense i think it's beatiful

i just don't believe in it's teachings about the nature of the world and it's creation

i don't hate any other religion kingblaze hates mine. well that's not 100% true i do actually hate/respect islam but that's only because i believe it's the religion of the anti-christ

 

[Alkinduz]

Incidentally, anyone else getting the "your post will appear after it has been moderated" box appearing constantly so they have to repost their stuff 4-6 times or is it just me?

I think you, because you are doing a lot of ethering.

Exactly. The truth is hurtful to people at times. But it needs to be said because the Bible god historically has caused a lot of problems and misery for human kind. I believe in some kind of higher power but not the kind of nonsense seen in the Bible.

So you believe in a higher power but it has to act according to what makes sense to you??? does that really make sense to you

*slams fist on the table

there is more to the world than the bible. Just like you probably think the bvagavad gita(spell check) is loaded with non sense, mr.kingblaze feels the same regarding your christian bible.

I actually don't think the bhagavad gita is filled with nonsense i think it's beatiful

i just don't believe in it's teachings about the nature of the world and it's creation

i don't hate any other religion kingblaze hates mine. well that's not 100% true i do actually hate/respect islam but that's only because i believe it's the religion of the anti-christ

Ok fam, more power to you

 

[MoneyLuver]

Wait. ....

So now Neil DeGrasse Tyson is wittier and more skilled than GOD himself?

Since when was Mankind able to do things that GOD can't?

Since when was GOD not a Scientist?

Since when was it cool to deny the creator? #ether

But just like my "everybody always seems to talk about Jesus" thread I'm sure you'll just ignore those questions and ramble on some other shit hoping I'll forget becuz no one here who's against Christianity or doesn't rock with it can answer those simple questions without exposing their own insecurities about whatever they believe in

Its funny how that works. U got so called Scholars who spend their life debating but can't even answer the simplest questions or handle a little bit of pressure

I'm not looking for an essay (becuz I won't read it). Just something simple. A paragraph or two. If you need more than that then clearly you aren't subscribed to whatever you believe in as much as you think

 

[MoneyLuver]

Its like becuz SOME people figured out how GOD did something that automatically makes what he did less magical and not real

Mankind has always worshiped other Gods and therefore Mankind has always suffered. The devil be in tha details, use your brain that u claim is so brilliant

But I'm still curious to hear responses to my questions without tha Circus. No more no less. Can anybody handle that simple task ]

 

[Ajackson17]

Wait. ....

So now Neil DeGrasse Tyson is wittier and more skilled than GOD himself?

Since when was Mankind able to do things that GOD can't?

Since when was GOD not a Scientist?

Since when was it cool to deny the creator? #ether

But just like my "everybody always seems to talk about Jesus" thread I'm sure you'll just ignore those questions and ramble on some other shit hoping I'll forget becuz no one here who's against Christianity or doesn't rock with it can answer those simple questions without exposing their own insecurities about whatever they believe in

Its funny how that works. U got so called Scholars who spend their life debating but can't even answer the simplest questions or handle a little bit of pressure

I'm not looking for an essay (becuz I won't read it). Just something simple. A paragraph or two. If you need more than that then clearly you aren't subscribed to whatever you believe in as much as you think

Possibly Neil could be, we don't know if this being exists or not and if we are believing the right creator.

We don't know if God is all powerful and again that's what religious leaders say. I have no clue about the limitations and if we could do things it can't.

We don't know if it's a natural creation or if he was wouldn't be surprised if it was either.

Since, we cannot verify if there is one and since those use the scientific method and not believe someone else beliefs then it makes sense. Why would someone believe in something and cannot communicate using the 5 senses. So their logic is somewhat valid, it's better to say I cannot prove a god exist nor disprove one exist.

I hoped I answered so of your questions.

 

[soul rattler]

The statement "the bible was meant to be taken literally" does not translate as "EVERYTHING in the bible was meant to be taken literally". That's a fallacy of division.

then why are you disputing my contention that not every part of the Bible --possibly to include Exodus-- is meant to be taken literally?

Because there is nothing in the book of Exodus which indicates that it was anything less than a historical account of actual events.

Jesus's parables were obviously fictitious. Dragons falling out of the sky is clearly poetic description. Using real names, locations, timespans, etc without any pretense which would suggest hyperbole or fiction is a clear reach for authenticity.

 

[soul rattler]

Yo moneylover this thread ain't for you. You just

1. Said your G-d uses magic

2. Said your G-d is a scientist. Scientists progress through trial and error to discover the unknown. (They also don't use magic) That's a can of worms you don't want to open.

3. Used a hash tag.

Stop posting here.

 

[MoneyLuver]

Wait. ....

So now Neil DeGrasse Tyson is wittier and more skilled than GOD himself?

Since when was Mankind able to do things that GOD can't?

Since when was GOD not a Scientist?

Since when was it cool to deny the creator? #ether

But just like my "everybody always seems to talk about Jesus" thread I'm sure you'll just ignore those questions and ramble on some other shit hoping I'll forget becuz no one here who's against Christianity or doesn't rock with it can answer those simple questions without exposing their own insecurities about whatever they believe in

Its funny how that works. U got so called Scholars who spend their life debating but can't even answer the simplest questions or handle a little bit of pressure

I'm not looking for an essay (becuz I won't read it). Just something simple. A paragraph or two. If you need more than that then clearly you aren't subscribed to whatever you believe in as much as you think

Possibly Neil could be, we don't know if this being exists or not and if we are believing the right creator.

We don't know if God is all powerful and again that's what religious leaders say. I have no clue about the limitations and if we could do things it can't.

We don't know if it's a natural creation or if he was wouldn't be surprised if it was either.

Since, we cannot verify if there is one and since those use the scientific method and not believe someone else beliefs then it makes sense. Why would someone believe in something and cannot communicate using the 5 senses. So their logic is somewhat valid, it's better to say I cannot prove a god exist nor disprove one exist.

I hoped I answered so of your questions.

And if you subscribe to that type of thinking then you must believe that Sean Bell, Rodney King, Trayvon Martin, and Mike Brown weren't racially profiled becuz they were Black.

 

[MoneyLuver]

Yo moneylover this thread ain't for you. You just

1. Said your G-d uses magic

2. Said your G-d is a scientist. Scientists progress through trial and error to discover the unknown. (They also don't use magic) That's a can of worms you don't want to open.

3. Used a hash tag.

Stop posting here.

Are you scared my IQ actually matches yours or supersedes it & you don't want somebody like I to embarrass you? Which in turn takes away any sense of credibility that You and Tha Like have....

#1- it is "magic". What else would you call it, "gravity tricks"? Okay, but what's gravity?, magic right?

#2- if doing tha things GOD has done doesn't qualify him as what we would call a "Scientist" then wat else would you label what kind of work he's done.

#3- you're corny for that

Think before you type Brotha. Pull a Janklow and copy & paste and thoroughly plan out wat you wanna say becuz I promise you that I'm not tha 1.

Bill Maher himself even said that "even the most hardcore Atheist believes atleast 0.001% that there's a God". So with that said everything about "we don't know this and we don't know that" has been negated and wouldn't be admissible in Court.

I believe that there's other life out there too. I believe that Mankind will advance to watever we've dreamed of in our imagination (technology-wise). But what does that have to do with Jesus Christ being the literal son of God (or Son of Man as he says)?

And for the record there may have been Dragons in the sky, u know, Dinosaurs?

If we're to take The Basic INSTRUCTIONS Before Leaving Earth literal then we must apply untainted mature rationale.

Its like in 11 years if I were to tell a 6 year old boy that boys and girls used to not seriously date until High School and they would usually get married fresh outta School and have a family and would rarely get Divorced & so on. The nigga would probably look at me in shock.

In 10 years if I were to tell a 12 year old girl that a little over 100 years ago that it was common for a girl her age to date a 18 year old boy she'd probably wish she could get her hands on a time machine immediately

Things change but that doesn't mean that they were never true. Again, when did it become cool to deny THE Creator and please let me know #WhereDeyDoDatAt?

 

[soul rattler]

I'll respond to the rest of that later, but did you just say gravity was magic?

 

[MoneyLuver]

I'll respond to the rest of that later, but did you just say gravity was magic?

Only if u just got Ether'd

 

[MoneyLuver]

But don't side step tho. Keep it straight to the point

 

[Ajackson17]

Wait. ....

So now Neil DeGrasse Tyson is wittier and more skilled than GOD himself?

Since when was Mankind able to do things that GOD can't?

Since when was GOD not a Scientist?

Since when was it cool to deny the creator? #ether

But just like my "everybody always seems to talk about Jesus" thread I'm sure you'll just ignore those questions and ramble on some other shit hoping I'll forget becuz no one here who's against Christianity or doesn't rock with it can answer those simple questions without exposing their own insecurities about whatever they believe in

Its funny how that works. U got so called Scholars who spend their life debating but can't even answer the simplest questions or handle a little bit of pressure

I'm not looking for an essay (becuz I won't read it). Just something simple. A paragraph or two. If you need more than that then clearly you aren't subscribed to whatever you believe in as much as you think

Possibly Neil could be, we don't know if this being exists or not and if we are believing the right creator.

We don't know if God is all powerful and again that's what religious leaders say. I have no clue about the limitations and if we could do things it can't.

We don't know if it's a natural creation or if he was wouldn't be surprised if it was either.

Since, we cannot verify if there is one and since those use the scientific method and not believe someone else beliefs then it makes sense. Why would someone believe in something and cannot communicate using the 5 senses. So their logic is somewhat valid, it's better to say I cannot prove a god exist nor disprove one exist.

I hoped I answered so of your questions.

And if you subscribe to that type of thinking then you must believe that Sean Bell, Rodney King, Trayvon Martin, and Mike Brown weren't racially profiled becuz they were Black.

How is that relevant? We can look up data and information and study through videos, stormfront and etc on racial profiling. We can dig up their corpse and etc but at the same time we cannot prove a creator exist. I do believe in a higher consciousness or being. I'm just saying I can't run up to you with irrefutable facts. There just a lot of what if's to completely verify and it's only your experience, interpretation, research and etc that give you a belief or disbelief. I personally think it's cool when people research and make up their own opinion about it. In the end we don't know for sure and I think that is okay and as long as we treat people fairly as how we want to be treated(I hope with respect, love, and life) everything should be good.