Did the book of Exodus really happen?

[zombie]

also A god is anything that is worshiped it does not have to be a believed deity

So David Koresh and Charles Manson are Gods that were killed? Hitler was a God?

Ah... lambs to slaughter... get off this bullshit.

Yes there were gods to the people that worshiped them

 

[zombie]

The story of the bible is really the story of gods creation of a people, an ethnic group that he would use to bring knowledge of who he is to the whole world . GOD basically made these people nomads so of course you are going to have bits and pieces of all kinds of belief from all over the area.

now if you believe in this god then that creates no problem for you but if you don't well then you are going to see a problem with how the religion was created

Religion is Chinese whispers passed off as doctrines of faith.

according to you and from your perspective

Oh, if you knew what I knew and read what I have read in the last 12 years, you'd realise I'm not one of one. I am not even the first. Theological Studies have been ongoing and deeply investigated before I was even born.
http://www.faithfuleye.com/simp/files/pdf/Karen.Armstrong.-.A.History.Of.God.(Religion.-.Theology.-.Judaism.-.Chritianity.-.Islam).pdf
http://pdf217.kubooks.mobi/a-history-of-the-world-s-religions-13th-edition--pdf_6530319.html

Start there, catch up and we can reconvene to debate this.

I know that you are not the only person with your viewpoint i just think based on the information that your perspective is faulty

 

[zombie]

BY the way @pissedoffnodosy nothing you have mentioned in this thread or the other one is anything i have not heard before

 

[zombie]

BY the way @pissedoffnodosy nothing you have mentioned in this thread or the other one is anything i have not heard before

Your selective deafness and ignorance are your problems, not mine to suffer. You want to believe the sky is greeen because you are colour blind regardless of the perception of the consensus, that's on your individual perception and mental handicap. It's not my duty to cater to the handicapped or disabled anymore than it is for me to give credence to the voices in your head if you're schizophrenic.

Get out of your feelings little girl i did not say anything you should have been hurt by i was actually trying to be respectful to you. what selective deafness?? i hear what you say but the information i have studied myself has lead me to another conclusion

 

[waterproof]

The Torah is a historical book on the history of Hebrews and their ancestors. Each book is written by a prophet and written by a specific Hebrew during that time

It's also teaches Hebrews the art of war, laws, dietary and how to live righteousness.

The truth Is the Torah is only meant for Hebrews it's not meant for everybody, it wasn't meant for gentiles that's why it's hard for some to understand it, that's why you have to go through a Hebrew to understand it and learn like scriptures says.

Yes it's an actual fact, there's Egyptian inscriptions on walls that mention Israel and they have a paper that written that told of a event that described the plagues that Yah sent on egypt

 

[waterproof]

also A god is anything that is worshiped it does not have to be a believed deity

You're wrong.

no i am not

1god noun \ˈgäd also ˈgȯd\

God : the perfect and all-powerful spirit or being that is worshipped especially by Christians, Jews, and Muslims as the one who created and rules the universe

: a spirit or being that has great power, strength, knowledge, etc., and that can affect nature and the lives of people : one of various spirits or beings worshipped in some religions

: a person and especially a man who is greatly loved or admired

Full Definition of GOD

1

capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as

a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe

b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind

2

: a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality

3

: a person or thing of supreme value

4

: a powerful rule

We didn't use the word God, we used Elohim and there's different meaning of the word Elohim it was spelled 3 different ways, why? Go find out

 

[waterproof]

Exodus the story is fiction but the Hebrews did live there but not as slaves but conquerors.

The Hyskos are not Hebrew, the hysko is Hebrews cousin for they also from Shem, when Hysko conquered Egypt, that let Israel lived in peace outside of Egypt. When Egypt took back their land, they was highly suspicious of Israel

 

[waterproof]

After reading some of the translation, i have more questions. So I take it there were humans prior to Adama but he was different and eden was definitely in africa.

Basically Adam was favoured by God and Eden was meant to be a paradise for him while savages roamed the wilderness. Adam was the first man in the sense he was meant to be the first enlightened being that didn't live in a cave and need to club shit to death or rape to reproduce. That's why Adam and Eve being cast out of Eden was meant to be a punishment, the corrupt nature of the rest of the natural world led to Cain being the first murderer.

Judaism borrowed from Zoroastrianism, the New Testament borrowed from but corrupted and adapted tales of other developed Middle Eastern and African faiths. If you want some reading material, you might find this interesting.
http://www.debate.org/debates/The-G...-material-from-non-Judeo-Christian-sources/1/

No, Adam was the first man with Yah's Spirit

 

[zombie]

also A god is anything that is worshiped it does not have to be a believed deity

You're wrong.

no i am not

1god noun \ˈgäd also ˈgȯd\

God : the perfect and all-powerful spirit or being that is worshipped especially by Christians, Jews, and Muslims as the one who created and rules the universe

: a spirit or being that has great power, strength, knowledge, etc., and that can affect nature and the lives of people : one of various spirits or beings worshipped in some religions

: a person and especially a man who is greatly loved or admired

Full Definition of GOD

1

capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as

a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe

b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind

2

: a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality

3

: a person or thing of supreme value

4

: a powerful rule

We didn't use the word God, we used Elohim and there's different meaning of the word Elohim it was spelled 3 different ways, why? Go find out

I KNOW BUT HE DID NOT KNOW THAT.

 

[waterproof]

also A god is anything that is worshiped it does not have to be a believed deity

You're wrong.

no i am not

1god noun \ˈgäd also ˈgȯd\

God : the perfect and all-powerful spirit or being that is worshipped especially by Christians, Jews, and Muslims as the one who created and rules the universe

: a spirit or being that has great power, strength, knowledge, etc., and that can affect nature and the lives of people : one of various spirits or beings worshipped in some religions

: a person and especially a man who is greatly loved or admired

Full Definition of GOD

1

capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as

a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe

b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind

2

: a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality

3

: a person or thing of supreme value

4

: a powerful rule

We didn't use the word God, we used Elohim and there's different meaning of the word Elohim it was spelled 3 different ways, why? Go find out

I KNOW BUT HE DID NOT KNOW THAT.

My bad that was meant for the heathen who ancestors was created with out the spirit of Yah

That's why his soul is rattled

 

[Ajackson17]

Why doesn't archeology doesn't agree with what happened in the Torah? And a lot of it is highly exaggerated and just not true. There are cities mention in Joshua that never existed in those times. It's safe to say it has historic significance but shouldn't be taken as a completely historical book.

 

[waterproof]

Why doesn't archeology doesn't agree with what happened in the Torah? And a lot of it is highly exaggerated and just not true. There are cities mention in Joshua that never existed in those times. It's safe to say it has historic significance but shouldn't be taken as a completely historical book.

Don't believe the Hype, in Israel they got so much evidence locked up from archeological digs for many years, there's historical sites that's blocked off, some of them are locked and hidden away in the Vatican

 

[Ajackson17]

Why doesn't archeology doesn't agree with what happened in the Torah? And a lot of it is highly exaggerated and just not true. There are cities mention in Joshua that never existed in those times. It's safe to say it has historic significance but shouldn't be taken as a completely historical book.

Don't believe the Hype, in Israel they got so much evidence locked up from archeological digs for many years, there's historical sites that's blocked off, some of them are locked and hidden away in the Vatican

Could be either side to support or denounce it. Same with Egypt and Sumerian stuff. Also, read the Hebrew showing there are other Elohim and El'oa. And they are not enemies, it's deeper than hip hop and we don't have the official story in my opinion.

 

[janklow]

WRONG. The Bible has very clear rules and regulations. Read it again.

tell me how you determine that EVERYTHING in the Bible was meant to be taken literally. this is the statement we're discussing: "The bible was meant to be taken literally."

People were killed for not doing certain regulations.

doesn't really affect the argument

 

[Alkinduz]

Since all the authors are dead and I dont recall one of them writing down that everything should be taken literal, whatever they intended(literal or not), is all speculation from our parts.

 

[soul rattler]

WRONG. The Bible has very clear rules and regulations. Read it again.

tell me how you determine that EVERYTHING in the Bible was meant to be taken literally. this is the statement we're discussing: "The bible was meant to be taken literally."

People were killed for not doing certain regulations.

doesn't really affect the argument

The statement "the bible was meant to be taken literally" does not translate as "EVERYTHING in the bible was meant to be taken literally". That's a fallacy of division.

There are parables, metaphors, and poetic descriptive language in the bible, but the fact that many Christians (obviously the ones on here will deny it) see the bible as a collection of historical events that actually took place is the pretense of this side bar.

 

[MoneyLuver]

WRONG. The Bible has very clear rules and regulations. Read it again.

tell me how you determine that EVERYTHING in the Bible was meant to be taken literally. this is the statement we're discussing: "The bible was meant to be taken literally."

People were killed for not doing certain regulations.

doesn't really affect the argument

The statement "the bible was meant to be taken literally" does not translate as "EVERYTHING in the bible was meant to be taken literally". That's a fallacy of division.

There are parables, metaphors, and poetic descriptive language in the bible, but the fact that many Christians (obviously the ones on here will deny it) see the bible as a collection of historical events that actually took place is the pretense of this side bar.

Who made you God tho?

Again, all of these findings and pieces of data on THEIR part is just speculation. If you want tha truth, look at what's in front of you.

If yall got out of your FEELINGS (a trait almost exclusive to Humans) and opened up your mind & heart to Christ you won't be so confused.

Everybody wasn't meant to be Ruler. Most were meant to be "Peasant". Which is a hard pill for people to swallow

 

[Ajackson17]

WRONG. The Bible has very clear rules and regulations. Read it again.

tell me how you determine that EVERYTHING in the Bible was meant to be taken literally. this is the statement we're discussing: "The bible was meant to be taken literally."

People were killed for not doing certain regulations.

doesn't really affect the argument

Eh, I wasn't talking to you though.

 

[Ajackson17]

WRONG. The Bible has very clear rules and regulations. Read it again.

tell me how you determine that EVERYTHING in the Bible was meant to be taken literally. this is the statement we're discussing: "The bible was meant to be taken literally."

People were killed for not doing certain regulations.

doesn't really affect the argument

The statement "the bible was meant to be taken literally" does not translate as "EVERYTHING in the bible was meant to be taken literally". That's a fallacy of division.

There are parables, metaphors, and poetic descriptive language in the bible, but the fact that many Christians (obviously the ones on here will deny it) see the bible as a collection of historical events that actually took place is the pretense of this side bar.

What I mean is that the people who wrote it meant it to be literal especially the old testament. That was their culture and a lot of the words are translated to suit Western Europe's ideology and thinking.

This is explains it. I'm not a part of Western Asian religions, but it is to be logical and precise in how they understood the world around it then telling them how they understood the world from their part.
http://www.mechanical-translation.org/possible.html

 

[Ajackson17]

Incidentally, anyone else getting the "your post will appear after it has been moderated" box appearing constantly so they have to repost their stuff 4-6 times or is it just me?

I think you, because you are doing a lot of ethering.