Death Row vs Wu-Tang

[HerbalVaporCapers]

Well as it stands, Death Row is winning 40-36.

But you'd have to admit its close considering Death Row sold more records and had more commercial success.



Also, Death Row was the only label on the West Coast at the time, Wu Tang was just a fraction of what was going on in the East Coast. You still had The Fugees, Biggie, Ma$e, A Tribe Called Quest, LL Cool J and a gang of other groups.

OK, name some other relevant labels that were poppin on the West

Why, I don't know....

How about......

 

[a_list]

Yea ok....Ya boys were blown out the gym....lol...Everybody that voted for the Wu cant be from NY/East....

Lol how many of them folks who voted Wu you think heard Witchdoctor's albums?

why I said it's biased on both sides

I'm a supporter of Both & heard a good amount from each

which is why my opinion is a lil more well rounded

Could care less about any of that you talkn, them niggas got molly-whopped.....You wasnt thinking about who heard of who prior to me dropping that screenshot nigga....lol

I kno you couldn't care less, which further proves my point of the bias

if your opinion ain't well rounded, it holds no weight to me

plus the albums my brother burned for me (36, Liquid Swords, Supreme, OB4CL, etc.)

after extensive listenin from both sides, sum members of Wu are interchangeable

DF's diversity is what tips the scales for them, imo

Tell it to the judge and all those bias niggas that voted for death row and the dungeon family....lol...foh

lol bruh, I said there's bias on both sides more times than not w/ these polls

I can at least formulate my opinion & give reasons for it

someone else in here tried to make an argument for Wu usin Rae (would've been better w/ Meth, but I digress)

but you're argument is "more people voted Wu", so you're goin w/ popular opinion, can't formulate your own opinion & give reasons why? You're jus bein a dickrider lmao

 

[5 Grand]

Well as it stands, Death Row is winning 40-36.

But you'd have to admit its close considering Death Row sold more records and had more commercial success.



Also, Death Row was the only label on the West Coast at the time, Wu Tang was just a fraction of what was going on in the East Coast. You still had The Fugees, Biggie, Ma$e, A Tribe Called Quest, LL Cool J and a gang of other groups.

OK, name some other relevant labels that were poppin on the West

Why, I don't know....

How about......

Thats it?

 

[bck145]

Well as it stands, Death Row is winning 40-36.

But you'd have to admit its close considering Death Row sold more records and had more commercial success.



Also, Death Row was the only label on the West Coast at the time, Wu Tang was just a fraction of what was going on in the East Coast. You still had The Fugees, Biggie, Ma$e, A Tribe Called Quest, LL Cool J and a gang of other groups.

OK, name some other relevant labels that were poppin on the West

Why, I don't know....

How about......

Thats it?

You comparing a record label to a group

The west ran shit back then

They still had ice cube and groups lile westside connection who were putting out better music than wu tang

 

[caddo man]

Wu has the biggest impact World wide when it comes to hip hop.

If the entire world was on the East Coast yeah okay. But its not. In the 90s that had murals of Tupac and Death row in Turkey and Israel. Every club in Europe was playing Death row and Bad Boy music. Hell Japan and the other pacific country are defacto Cali states.

There certain parts of the country that couldnt tell you 3 members from WuTang. But they all know Dr Dre, Snoop and Tupac. More than likely knows Suge Knight just from TMZ fame.

Like I said earlier, this is a horrible comparison. Tupac and Dr Dre had careers before Death Row and Snoop push his career out on No Limit and beyond.

The shit is about two collectives being compared. People have already admitted that next to Meth and maybe Dirty, none of the Wu members achieved the stardom that the top three in Death Row did, but that doesn't mean that Death Row was more recognizable or influential than the Wu. We could rattle off shit that people still do in their music that was popularized by the Wu. You can't really say that about Death Row. Hell, the Wu basically started the whole "reppin your collective first and foremost" type thing. Initially, Death Row was Dre, Snoop, and some other niggas on a record label. Death Row as a rap collective didn't really blossom until later.

From someone that never stayed in the Northeast and didnt visit the Northeast until 97...............

The Wu was the best of the New York groups that came out in the 90s. Their influence shaped East Coast rap for decades. But that is it. The East Coast! They barely move the needle the farther you move from the North East. We heard of them. Heard the music on MTV raps and BET but the local radio in most places wasn't playing they music. They cassette didn't sell like that outside of the East Coast and parts of the Midwest.

Wu Tang was lumped in with the Bone Thugs, E-40 and Clique, Dogg Pound, and Geto Boys. I love the Wu! Bought all of their albums.........................after I heard Triumph.

The Wu is a East Coast thing. This is like the Tupac/Biggie debate. It depends on your bias!

I think Scarface is one of the best rappers in the game.....................EVER! But that is my Southern bias!

I think the 90s is the best era of hip hop. But I became an adult in the late 90s. I am bias!

You obviously believe that Death Row was just a West Coast thing, You may be bias? IDK

Death Row and Bad Boy ruled the 90s and the Wu was just apart of the greatest era in Hip Hop.

 

[Brian B.]

Yea ok....Ya boys were blown out the gym....lol...Everybody that voted for the Wu cant be from NY/East....

Lol how many of them folks who voted Wu you think heard Witchdoctor's albums?

why I said it's biased on both sides

I'm a supporter of Both & heard a good amount from each

which is why my opinion is a lil more well rounded

Could care less about any of that you talkn, them niggas got molly-whopped.....You wasnt thinking about who heard of who prior to me dropping that screenshot nigga....lol

I kno you couldn't care less, which further proves my point of the bias

if your opinion ain't well rounded, it holds no weight to me

plus the albums my brother burned for me (36, Liquid Swords, Supreme, OB4CL, etc.)

after extensive listenin from both sides, sum members of Wu are interchangeable

DF's diversity is what tips the scales for them, imo

Tell it to the judge and all those bias niggas that voted for death row and the dungeon family....lol...foh

lol bruh, I said there's bias on both sides more times than not w/ these polls

I can at least formulate my opinion & give reasons for it

someone else in here tried to make an argument for Wu usin Rae (would've been better w/ Meth, but I digress)

but you're argument is "more people voted Wu", so you're goin w/ popular opinion, can't formulate your own opinion & give reasons why? You're jus bein a dickrider lmao

Lol so your argument is other folks opinion? Got it

if you jus wanna dickride don't respond to me lol

 

[5 Grand]

Wu Tang Live In Paris


Wu Tang Live In Croatia


GZA Live In Brazil


Wu Tang Live In Australia


Ghostface Live In Japan


Wu Tang Live In Amsterdam


And here's the ether:

Spoiler

Wu Tang Live In San Bernadino California

 

[caddo man]

https://www.setlist.fm/stats/albums/wutang-clan-3bd69c24.html

 

[The Lonious Monk]

From someone that never stayed in the Northeast and didnt visit the Northeast until 97...............

The Wu was the best of the New York groups that came out in the 90s. Their influence shaped East Coast rap for decades. But that is it. The East Coast! They barely move the needle the farther you move from the North East. We heard of them. Heard the music on MTV raps and BET but the local radio in most places wasn't playing they music. They cassette didn't sell like that outside of the East Coast and parts of the Midwest.

Wu Tang was lumped in with the Bone Thugs, E-40 and Clique, Dogg Pound, and Geto Boys. I love the Wu! Bought all of their albums.........................after I heard Triumph.

The Wu is a East Coast thing. This is like the Tupac/Biggie debate. It depends on your bias!

I think Scarface is one of the best rappers in the game.....................EVER! But that is my Southern bias!

I think the 90s is the best era of hip hop. But I became an adult in the late 90s. I am bias!

You obviously believe that Death Row was just a West Coast thing, You may be bias? IDK

Death Row and Bad Boy ruled the 90s and the Wu was just apart of the greatest era in Hip Hop.

lol I don't even know what to say about what you just said. How old are you? I have a hard time believing you lived through 93-98 and think the Wu wasn't big everywhere. I'm not even from the Northeast. I'm from the South. Niggas around my way knew damn near all the words to every Wu song. As a matter of fact, before the Wu blew, Death Row was really all anyone cared about. After the Wu came, Death Row as an afterthought until Pac got on, and then they reclaimed a lot of that shit.

Again, it's fine to say you like Death Row's music better, but some of ya'll niggas are rewriting history with the shit you're saying. I mean there is video of Wu tours both national and international that show them rocking packed venues everywhere they went.

 

[caddo man]

From someone that never stayed in the Northeast and didnt visit the Northeast until 97...............

The Wu was the best of the New York groups that came out in the 90s. Their influence shaped East Coast rap for decades. But that is it. The East Coast! They barely move the needle the farther you move from the North East. We heard of them. Heard the music on MTV raps and BET but the local radio in most places wasn't playing they music. They cassette didn't sell like that outside of the East Coast and parts of the Midwest.

Wu Tang was lumped in with the Bone Thugs, E-40 and Clique, Dogg Pound, and Geto Boys. I love the Wu! Bought all of their albums.........................after I heard Triumph.

The Wu is a East Coast thing. This is like the Tupac/Biggie debate. It depends on your bias!

I think Scarface is one of the best rappers in the game.....................EVER! But that is my Southern bias!

I think the 90s is the best era of hip hop. But I became an adult in the late 90s. I am bias!

You obviously believe that Death Row was just a West Coast thing, You may be bias? IDK

Death Row and Bad Boy ruled the 90s and the Wu was just apart of the greatest era in Hip Hop.

lol I don't even know what to say about what you just said. How old are you? I have a hard time believing you lived through 93-98 and think the Wu wasn't big everywhere. I'm not even from the Northeast. I'm from the South. Niggas around my way knew damn near all the words to every Wu song. As a matter of fact, before the Wu blew, Death Row was really all anyone cared about. After the Wu came, Death Row as an afterthought until Pac got on, and then they reclaimed a lot of that shit.

Again, it's fine to say you like Death Row's music better, but some of ya'll niggas are rewriting history with the shit you're saying. I mean there is video of Wu tours both national and international that show them rocking packed venues everywhere they went.

Find me a Wu nation wide tour before 97. I mean nationwide not Cali and New York industry tours. I mean New Orleans to Phoenix to Chicago to Dallas to Nashville etc..... I drop a link earlier you can use that or just google yourself.

The Wu dropped in 93.....................Doggystyle drop the same year, Then murder was the case, Then Tupac signed.

So when was Death Row an afterthought? During that time Death Row had 5 No 1 billboard charted albums That all went at least 2x platinum. Even that bullshit Doggfather.

 

[a_list]

Wu Tang Live In Paris


Wu Tang Live In Croatia


GZA Live In Brazil


Wu Tang Live In Australia


Ghostface Live In Japan


Wu Tang Live In Amsterdam


And here's the ether:

Spoiler

Wu Tang Live In San Bernadino California

Yo 5 this is my thing when them niggas try that local shyt, but you got my blessings...lol

@"Brian B."

Not gonna waste time on you bruh...This says it best^^^...Now go get you some Buffalo pig feet and a 2 liter grape soda and chill out...lol...Bet you wishing we was cool on FB so you could try to pull that shyt you did before...lol

 

[caddo man]

LOL! He think he did something by that. Just click the damn link I posted. Or just google those tour dates.

Wu Tang is a east coast thing! Plain and simple.

Showing me tours in other countries when they are years after the fact don't prove shit but that you still have a east coast bias. That is cool. Just admit to your problem.

I can drop links to billboard and radio list from 1994 to show you but......................you got google! Use it.

/thread

 

[5 Grand]

LOL! He think he did something by that. Just click the damn link I posted. Or just google those tour dates.

Wu Tang is a east coast thing! Plain and simple.

Showing me tours in other countries when they are years after the fact don't prove shit but that you still have a east coast bias. That is cool. Just admit to your problem.

I can drop links to billboard and radio list from 1994 to show you but......................you got google! Use it.

/thread

I have a better idea: Why don't you post some links of Death Row artists performing in different continents.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

From someone that never stayed in the Northeast and didnt visit the Northeast until 97...............

The Wu was the best of the New York groups that came out in the 90s. Their influence shaped East Coast rap for decades. But that is it. The East Coast! They barely move the needle the farther you move from the North East. We heard of them. Heard the music on MTV raps and BET but the local radio in most places wasn't playing they music. They cassette didn't sell like that outside of the East Coast and parts of the Midwest.

Wu Tang was lumped in with the Bone Thugs, E-40 and Clique, Dogg Pound, and Geto Boys. I love the Wu! Bought all of their albums.........................after I heard Triumph.

The Wu is a East Coast thing. This is like the Tupac/Biggie debate. It depends on your bias!

I think Scarface is one of the best rappers in the game.....................EVER! But that is my Southern bias!

I think the 90s is the best era of hip hop. But I became an adult in the late 90s. I am bias!

You obviously believe that Death Row was just a West Coast thing, You may be bias? IDK

Death Row and Bad Boy ruled the 90s and the Wu was just apart of the greatest era in Hip Hop.

lol I don't even know what to say about what you just said. How old are you? I have a hard time believing you lived through 93-98 and think the Wu wasn't big everywhere. I'm not even from the Northeast. I'm from the South. Niggas around my way knew damn near all the words to every Wu song. As a matter of fact, before the Wu blew, Death Row was really all anyone cared about. After the Wu came, Death Row as an afterthought until Pac got on, and then they reclaimed a lot of that shit.

Again, it's fine to say you like Death Row's music better, but some of ya'll niggas are rewriting history with the shit you're saying. I mean there is video of Wu tours both national and international that show them rocking packed venues everywhere they went.

Find me a Wu nation wide tour before 97. I mean nationwide not Cali and New York industry tours. I mean New Orleans to Phoenix to Chicago to Dallas to Nashville etc..... I drop a link earlier you can use that or just google yourself.

The Wu dropped in 93.....................Doggystyle drop the same year, Then murder was the case, Then Tupac signed.

So when was Death Row an afterthought? During that time Death Row had 5 No 1 billboard charted albums That all went at least 2x platinum. Even that bullshit Doggfather.

Bruh, just go here and be quiet. Yes, they kept to the Northeast for major shows early in their careers because NYC niggas are arrogant and didn't want to branch out. By 1997 them niggas was touring across the country and the world.
https://www.setlist.fm/stats/concert-map/wutang-clan-3bd69c24.html

And them not doing shows in a particular place doesn't mean they didn't have fans everywhere. Again, I'm from the South and there were plenty of Wu fans down there even if we never saw a single show.

 

[bck145]

LOL! He think he did something by that. Just click the damn link I posted. Or just google those tour dates.

Wu Tang is a east coast thing! Plain and simple.

Showing me tours in other countries when they are years after the fact don't prove shit but that you still have a east coast bias. That is cool. Just admit to your problem.

I can drop links to billboard and radio list from 1994 to show you but......................you got google! Use it.

/thread

I have a better idea: Why don't you post some links of Death Row artists performing in different continents.

You trying to say snoop never performed around the world? Hes more of a household name than all of wu tang combined

 

[5 Grand]

LOL! He think he did something by that. Just click the damn link I posted. Or just google those tour dates.

Wu Tang is a east coast thing! Plain and simple.

Showing me tours in other countries when they are years after the fact don't prove shit but that you still have a east coast bias. That is cool. Just admit to your problem.

I can drop links to billboard and radio list from 1994 to show you but......................you got google! Use it.

/thread

I have a better idea: Why don't you post some links of Death Row artists performing in different continents.

You trying to say snoop never performed around the world? Hes more of a household name than all of wu tang combined

Post a video of Snoop performing around the world when he was on Death Row

 

[bck145]

LOL! He think he did something by that. Just click the damn link I posted. Or just google those tour dates.

Wu Tang is a east coast thing! Plain and simple.

Showing me tours in other countries when they are years after the fact don't prove shit but that you still have a east coast bias. That is cool. Just admit to your problem.

I can drop links to billboard and radio list from 1994 to show you but......................you got google! Use it.

/thread

I have a better idea: Why don't you post some links of Death Row artists performing in different continents.

You trying to say snoop never performed around the world? Hes more of a household name than all of wu tang combined

Post a video of Snoop performing around the world when he was on Death Row

Ok post a video of wu tang around the world before 97

 

[5 Grand]

LOL! He think he did something by that. Just click the damn link I posted. Or just google those tour dates.

Wu Tang is a east coast thing! Plain and simple.

Showing me tours in other countries when they are years after the fact don't prove shit but that you still have a east coast bias. That is cool. Just admit to your problem.

I can drop links to billboard and radio list from 1994 to show you but......................you got google! Use it.

/thread

I have a better idea: Why don't you post some links of Death Row artists performing in different continents.

You trying to say snoop never performed around the world? Hes more of a household name than all of wu tang combined

Post a video of Snoop performing around the world when he was on Death Row

Ok post a video of wu tang around the world before 97

 

[gee757]

Smh@ this silly thread still being open u can't compare a group wit a label & Of course deathrizzo is winning......plus fuk the polll anyway cuz deathrow won when they had rza chain on tour n 96

"People need to now we're not beefing with the East coast.. We're about to start Death Row East with Eric B and all the OG nigguhs out there. We got Big Daddy Kane.. Christopher Williams..we're trying to get Bobby Brown. We're trying to get the East coast Death Row to be like the West Coast Death Row and make it major. We're not doing that until we get this business settled.. Even while we're doing this we're trying to get Wu-Tang.. I feel as though they represent the east coast the way we represent the west coast and I love them" - MC new York aka makaveli
http://www.futureproducers.com/foru...uture-plans-6-months-before-he-passed-107468/

Wasnt lakey the kid on there too i think thats his name

Lakey was on the nu deathrow east when suge restarted like n 06

It ain't fair deathrow is a label that sold more records than Wu Tang..... deathrow had bigger artists than Wu Tang.... deathrow had rza chain on tour out west till 2pac gave it back cuz he loved Wu Tang......there just ain't no comparing a group & a label especially when Wu Tang was gonna fuk wit deathrow east..

STFU about this deathrow east bullshit.

Yeah but 2Pac was going to take over the East coast as soon as he signed Craig Mack

Makaveli gave rza chain back n 96 cuz pac had love for Wu Tang....that's y when pac spoke on rza getting beat up & his chain snatched n 96 he never said rza name method man is the 1 who exposed rza got jacked by deathrizzo....so u can make up this fake beef between Wu Tang & deathrow but u look Krazy comparing a group wit a label...

Uh those west coast niggas had to come to N.Y. sooner or later.

Idk where y'all get the idea that NYC niggas are/were soft.

I forgot, they were all getting at 2pac, you right

Only little niggas believed in that fake 2pac thuggery bs. Anybody who was about that life during that time knew 2pac was selling wolf tickets. Them blood and crip Niggas were official. 2pac not so much.

Again you act like them same Rap niggas did not have to come N.Y. to get money. What world do you niggas live in. Lol.

Who was checking pac for dissing big, puff, and their city? Nigga said fuck bad boy as a record label, staff, and crew. And if you down with bad boy, fuck you too. Who checked pac for that? Why mobb deep never say anything until pac died?

@gee757 Pac was going to prison with Suge for parole violation. Do you always seem to read over that? Deathrow East was an idea, a nice one, but thats it. Pac was gonna be locked up had he not died and the south took over not too long after. Stop with the delusions.

The only delusional person is U fam if Kenner got Snoop off a murder case then that fight shit would've been nothing especially when Orlando was n court saying suge never touched him....I understand the thought of pac being king of both coasts wit deathrow east sounds unbelievable but had makaveli lived it was gonna happen......Eric b said nas was his lil bro so that makaveli/nas album was coming out on deathrow east & pac gave rza his chain back so he could get the Wu on deathrow east....... deathrow east was a real movement that died wit pac that was gonna run shit on the east that's y puffy bodyguard said Diddy was calling the deathrow east ogs crying asking them y r y'all embarrassing us(bad boy) when they r all from NY & puffy got a dail tone n 96...

 

[5 Grand]

Smh@ this silly thread still being open u can't come a group wit a label & Of course deathrizzo is winning......plus fuk the polll anyway cuz deathrow won when they had rza chain on tour n 96

"People need to now we're not beefing with the East coast.. We're about to start Death Row East with Eric B and all the OG nigguhs out there. We got Big Daddy Kane.. Christopher Williams..we're trying to get Bobby Brown. We're trying to get the East coast Death Row to be like the West Coast Death Row and make it major. We're not doing that until we get this business settled.. Even while we're doing this we're trying to get Wu-Tang.. I feel as though they represent the east coast the way we represent the west coast and I love them" - MC new York aka makaveli
http://www.futureproducers.com/foru...uture-plans-6-months-before-he-passed-107468/

Wasnt lakey the kid on there too i think thats his name

Lakey was on the nu deathrow east when suge restarted like n 06

It ain't fair deathrow is a label that sold more records than Wu Tang..... deathrow had bigger artists than Wu Tang.... deathrow had rza chain on tour out west till 2pac gave it back cuz he loved Wu Tang......there just ain't no comparing a group & a label especially when Wu Tang was gonna fuk wit deathrow east..

STFU about this deathrow east bullshit.

Yeah but 2Pac was going to take over the East coast as soon as he signed Craig Mack

Makaveli gave rza chain back n 96 cuz pac had love for Wu Tang....that's y when pac spoke on rza getting beat up & his chain snatched n 96 he never said rza name method man is the 1 who exposed rza got jacked by deathrizzo....so u can make up this fake beef between Wu Tang & deathrow but u look Krazy comparing a group wit a label...

Uh those west coast niggas had to come to N.Y. sooner or later.

Idk where y'all get the idea that NYC niggas are/were soft.

I forgot, they were all getting at 2pac, you right

Only little niggas believed in that fake 2pac thuggery bs. Anybody who was about that life during that time knew 2pac was selling wolf tickets. Them blood and crip Niggas were official. 2pac not so much.

Again you act like them same Rap niggas did not have to come N.Y. to get money. What world do you niggas live in. Lol.

Who was checking pac for dissing big, puff, and their city? Nigga said fuck bad boy as a record label, staff, and crew. And if you down with bad boy, fuck you too. Who checked pac for that? Why mobb deep never say anything until pac died?

@gee757 Pac was going to prison with Suge for parole violation. Do you always seem to read over that? Deathrow East was an idea, a nice one, but thats it. Pac was gonna be locked up had he not died and the south took over not too long after. Stop with the delusions.

The only delusional person is U fam if Kenner got Snoop off a murder case then that fight shit would've been nothing especially when Orlando was n court saying suge never touched him....I understand the thought of pac being king of both coasts wit deathrow east sounds unbelievable but had makaveli lived it was gonna happen......Eric b said nas was his lil bro so that makaveli/nas album was coming out on deathrow east & pac gave rza his chain back so he could get the Wu on deathrow east....... deathrow east was a real movement that died wit pac that was gonna run shit on the east that's y puffy bodyguard said Diddy was calling the deathrow east ogs crying asking them y r y'all embarrassing us(bad boy) when they r all from NY & puffy got a dail tone n 96...

Yeah Death Row East was going to take over as soon as Pac got out of jail for violating the terms of his bail.