DEATH BATTLE! - Goku vs Superman

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i have no real issue with the "result" b/c it was entertaining as hell. but they sold Goku extremely short.This was obviously done in a "no way Supermans losing" manner & just huge contradictions made in their explanation & analysis of Goku vs what actually happened in the fight. Some shit just wouldnt have happened.

I have no dispute of their actual calculations but i seriously disagree w/ the points at which they chose to start the calculations & what they chose to leave out

If they wanted to be honest this they should have made it a draw but i think they caved in during the info gathering stage & didnt want to be labeled as copping out & chose Superman b/c its easier.

i'd go on but i dont want to make a titan &just be dismissed
 
Thought i remember that the spirit bomb doesnt hurt ppl that have pure heart so i dont know why they had goku charge up a spirit bomb for

 
Bender Rodriguez;5497622 said:
ohhhla;5483390 said:
Superman will body SSJ4 Gogeta.

LOL@ Goku vs Superman.

did he body batman who was a regular human

yes, yes he has. Multiple times. One time batman broke his hand hitting Supes and would have broken his spine if Supes didn't "roll" with the punch. He's beaten Batman many times, when he has super powers, or venom, or mech suits and what not. In fact, bats never really has gotten a true victory over supes. If he was serious, Bats wouldn't get a chance to blink or breathe before death.
 
From what I saw, Goku's biggest down fall was his lack of smarts.

Still don't understand how Hulk lost to Superman though - doesn't he have unlimited strength and a genius level intelligence?
 
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RodrigueZz;5498058 said:
From what I saw, Goku's biggest down fall was his lack of smarts.

Still don't understand how Hulk lost to Superman though - doesn't he have unlimited strength and a genius level intelligence?

Certain Hulk's do have genius level intelligence, all have potentially unlimited strength. The thing is, Supes is generally much, much stronger at base and is much, much faster, and is also a super genius supposedly. If Supes went all out at the start, he'd crush Hulk physically with ease. If he fought like he usually does (at the opponent's level) he could potentially lose, though his speed might save him. Also sun dipping might as well.

This is not mentioning his eye beams which are hotter than the sun and other such abilities.
 
RodrigueZz;5498058 said:
From what I saw, Goku's biggest down fall was his lack of smarts.

Still don't understand how Hulk lost to Superman though - doesn't he have unlimited strength and a genius level intelligence?

Actually, I'd say Goku's biggest downfall in this fight would be his inferior strength and durability. Superman just hits harder and could take a lot more damage. Goku is an idiot in general, but he's a savant in combat. Superman outsmarting him from a fighting perspective isn't all that likely.

I've always said this. If it was a friendly sparring match, I could see Goku winning. If it's a deathmatch, Superman wins without question.

ohhhla;5498587 said:
Superman is stronger than Base Hulk

Supez will body anyone in DBZ for free

Fixed that for you. Hulk's strength can steadily increase during a fight and has no known limit, but Superman would be stronger at the beginning of a fight.
 
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this is irrelevant, the math and stats are wrong and plus Goku just became "Super Saiyan God" in the new movie coming out
 
Bcotton5;5523251 said:
this is irrelevant, the math and stats are wrong and plus Goku just became "Super Saiyan God" in the new movie coming out

thats my issue. Wont even get into the actual fight yet. The formula was just weird. But using it. How in the fuck is Goku's "prime" when he couldn't beat Vegeta on Earth. Makes no sense. They acknowledged Goku's training styles, intensities & heritage only to ignore it during calculations so the 40 tons; 12 cm w/e #'s are off from the jump

Goku's prime for these calculations can be no earlier than when he stepped back on Earth before the Androids came & his heart disease or when he stepped out the Hyperbolic time chamber before the Cell Games (Died after the games)
 
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almighty breeze;5528514 said:
Bcotton5;5523251 said:
this is irrelevant, the math and stats are wrong and plus Goku just became "Super Saiyan God" in the new movie coming out

thats my issue. Wont even get into the actual fight yet. The formula was just weird. But using it. How in the fuck is Goku's "prime" when he couldn't beat Vegeta on Earth. Makes no sense. They acknowledged Goku's training styles, intensities & heritage only to ignore it during calculations so the 40 tons; 12 cm w/e #'s are off from the jump

Goku's prime for these calculations can be no earlier than when he stepped back on Earth before the Androids came & his heart disease or when he stepped out the Hyperbolic time chamber before the Cell Games (Died after the games)

So...ya'll didn't get it huh? The numbers they took from Saiyan Saga were the only quantifiable numbers they had. THEN they took the 40 tons as if it were 586 times earth gravity (cause it would be) and MULTIPLIED that by the numbers. This is an accurate representation of Goku's improvement since his base was proven to only handle that much gravity/weight (Though they could be wrong, cause speed doesn't necessarily increase linearly with strength, so they gave Goku too much). Then they used the SSJ multipliers officially stated (once again they overrated Goku as powerlevels and physical abilities clearly don't increase linearly). The numbers they use actually gave Goku more than they should have, and he should still be beaten in one punch.
 
just watched this for the first time.. and i respect their break down... i can now understand how supes beats goku...

 
Bcotton5;5523251 said:
this is irrelevant, the math and stats are wrong and plus Goku just became "Super Saiyan God" in the new movie coming out

Poor Vegeta. Dude's been left in the dust like all the other Z warriors now.

 

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