'Dear White People' Director And Star Break Down Why Black People Can't Be Racist

[playmaker88]

Black people can be "racist" but technically speaking it involves the power to exert.. We dont have that.. we often use certain words interchangeably like racist and bigot.. bigot is just not a fashionable term.. So its "racist"

My thing is you cant call a person who beats up a bully a bully.

Basically the people who inflict racism create the conditions which lead to a certain segment of black people to become "racist"..i think more often that not black people are leery.. for good damn reason of white people.. That is not racism. That is a byproduct of the nuture/nature of White Supremacy Racism

 

[Kwan Dai]

The problem is that they're using "racism" to mean "systemic racism" and it adds to the confusion.

The literal, Webster's definition of "racism" has nothing to do with systemic, social rules and practices. The term for that is "institutional racism" or "systemic racism". So motherfuckers already get the side eye from me for that dumbassery.

And more to the point...only someone deeply ignorant of history or the world outside of the US would make a statement like that.

Half a million dead black Tutsis, killed by the hands of their neighbors, the black Hutus, who thought they were "inferior" and "cockroaches" would beg to differ with the declaration that black people can't be racist.

You nor Webster get to define racism as it pertains to ones history, race, experience and culture.

It's not ignorant to make the statement that Blacks cannot be racists because, the term "Black" is almost exclusively used in America to denote it's darker skinned people. Most people we (Blacks in America) consider Black don't identify as such. They identify as Brazilian, Dominican, Senegalese, Nigerian etc, etc.

So, those of use who identify as Black know exactly what these brothers are saying. And while doing so, can totally agree that a situation such as the Rwandan genocide was clearly based on racism. Rwandan racism.

 

[Sandinista]

You nor Webster get to define racism as it pertains to ones history, race, experience and culture.

Silliness. Objective definitions are absolutely necessary for real discussions otherwise all you're getting is "feelings" and "opinions".

If Websters doesn't define "racism" but cultures reserve that right then Whites can indeed claim to be victims of "racism" since...according to you...they don't have to abide by Webster's definition of the word and can create their own definition of racism based on their "experience and culture".

And while doing so, can totally agree that a situation such as the Rwandan genocide was clearly based on racism. Rwandan racism.

Racism is racism is racism...whether it be here, Rwanda or Timbuktu. The feeling that a race or ethnicity or tribe is better than another and that the inferior group deserves to be oppressed, marginalized or killed is universal. Africa is rife with racism and many of African immigrants bring that racism with them when they immigrate.

My mom works with refugees...she has seen Dinka refugees refuse to eat or sit with Nuer refugees (both groups from the South Sudan) because they considered the Nuer to be "dirty" and "inferior". But I guess that wasn't "racism".

Is it still "African racism" when it's happening in Roanoke, Virginia?

You need to seriously travel. You sound uneducated and completely ignorant of the wider world.

 

[Kwan Dai]

You nor Webster get to define racism as it pertains to ones history, race, experience and culture.

Silliness. Objective definitions are absolutely necessary for real discussions otherwise all you're getting is "feelings" and "opinions".

If Websters doesn't define "racism" but cultures reserve that right then Whites can indeed claim to be victims of "racism" since...according to you...they don't have to abide by Webster's definition of the word and can create their own definition of racism based on their "experience and culture".

And while doing so, can totally agree that a situation such as the Rwandan genocide was clearly based on racism. Rwandan racism.

Racism is racism is racism...whether it be here, Rwanda or Timbuktu. The feeling that a race or ethnicity or tribe is better than another and that the inferior group deserves to be oppressed, marginalized or killed is universal. Africa is rife with racism and many of African immigrants bring that racism with them when they immigrate.

My mom works with refugees...she has seen Dinka refugees refuse to eat or sit with Nuer refugees (both groups from the South Sudan) because they considered the Nuer to be "dirty" and "inferior". But I guess that wasn't "racism".

Is it still "African racism" when it's happening in Roanoke, Virginia?

You need to seriously travel. You sound uneducated and completely ignorant of the wider world.

We aren't discussing Africa and neither were the brothers in the op. They were speaking on American racism.

Again out of touch. Stop using your experiences that have nothing to do with BLACK America to make your false equivalences. Your mother doesn't work with Black Americans. She works with Africans who do not IDENTIFY as Black.

I am extremely well traveled and I have completely obliterated your ass in previous debates. And that will continue so, long as you attempt to bring your foreign opinions to debates concerning domestic issues.

 

[blackrain]

Honestly, fuck those PWIs.

HBCUs for the win. Can't worry about racist shit if I'm at a school where the majority of the faculty and student body are just like me.

color scheme of hbcu's slowly changing

Not as much as you'd think. I know I'm being biased but I feel like every black person, and especially black men, needs to experience at least 1 year at an HBCU. It's something powerful about seeing a concentration of young, intelligent, ambitious African Americans working towards their goals. It flies in the face of all the bullshit America tells us that we are.

There's a level of pride you develop. There's having to solve bullshit issues (i.e. financial aid problems, dealing with the different socioeconomic black students), cultivating the grind u have in u, etc A black student union at a PWI ain't giving u that. Going back to homecoming and sharing past experiences with folks and seeing what an hbcu education did is something I can't put into words. Personally, being able to walk the halls and live in the same dorms as Samuel L. Jackson, Dr. King, Spike Lee, etc. had a nigga hype. My future kids don't even have a choice between an hbcu or PWI, if im keeping it 100

Bruh...the level of frustration my friends who went to HBCU schools had to deal with dealing with financial aid is not just a "bullshit issue"...they seriously play with peoples futures doing that shit. That's not a prideful thing you develop. That's a lack of being able to run shit properly

 

[Sandinista]

I am extremely well traveled and I have completely obliterated your ass in previous debates And that will continue so, long as you attempt to bring your foreign opinions to debates concerning domestic issues.

LOL. You sound hurt. Bragging about "obliterated someone's ass" on the internet. Have I found the first black neckbeard? Are you wearing a fedora right now? The only other adult I've ever met who brags about internet debates had functional autism. Please let me know if that's the case here.

I once talked about abortion and taxation in the office and I overheard a CAC who loves Trump and is a known racist saying I needed to keep my "foreign opinions" to myself too. Is that ironic that you sound just like him? Or is it that small minds, accustomed to looking at the world through simplistic child-like lenses, simply think and act alike?

You probably low key cheered Trump on when he talked about building a wall didn't you?

Btw you'll continue to hear my "foreign opinions" in here so get used to them. I've lived here my whole life and American concerns are my personal concerns. It's not my fault I bring a much more multi cultural and sophisticated view into race relations than you do.

Don't like it? Too fucking bad.

 

[Kwan Dai]

I am extremely well traveled and I have completely obliterated your ass in previous debates And that will continue so, long as you attempt to bring your foreign opinions to debates concerning domestic issues.

LOL. You sound hurt. Bragging about "obliterated someone's ass" on the internet. Have I found the first black neckbeard? Are you wearing a fedora right now? The only other adult I've ever met who brags about internet debates had functional autism. Please let me know if that's the case here.

I once talked about abortion and taxation in the office and I overheard a CAC who loves Trump and is a known racist saying I needed to keep my "foreign opinions" to myself too. Is that ironic that you sound just like him? Or is it that small minds, accustomed to looking at the world through simplistic child-like lenses, simply think and act alike?

You probably low key cheered Trump on when he talked about building a wall didn't you?

Btw you'll continue to hear my "foreign opinions" in here so get used to them. I've lived here my whole life and American concerns are my personal concerns. It's not my fault I bring a much more multi cultural and sophisticated view into race relations than you do.

Don't like it? Too fucking bad.

I welcome your pointless opinions. However, I will continue to smack you around like I have been whenever you begin yapping.

See difference between me and stupid people like you is, I wouldn't go to Brazil, Rwanda or any other place on planet earth and pretend to know their complex history of race and culture.What I do is, STFU, listen and respect it. What you believe to be your superior multi-cultural view is nothing short of ignorance derived from your shallow and misinformed history of America.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Honestly, fuck those PWIs.

HBCUs for the win. Can't worry about racist shit if I'm at a school where the majority of the faculty and student body are just like me.

But what about the fact that the Dotheads and the Chinks dominate the faculty in the STEM subjects. Also, we can't ignore the fact that a lot of the "ballers, shot callers, brawlers," at some of these HBCU's are white. I'm all for HBCUs and bringing up to par and eventually surpassing PWIs, (especially the Ivies,) in terms of academic excellence, but first the need to rid of the white and foreign influence.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Honestly, fuck those PWIs.

HBCUs for the win. Can't worry about racist shit if I'm at a school where the majority of the faculty and student body are just like me.

But what about the fact that the Dotheads and the Chinks dominate the faculty in the STEM subjects. Also, we can't ignore the fact that a lot of the "ballers, shot callers, brawlers," at some of these HBCU's are white. I'm all for HBCUs and bringing up to par and eventually surpassing PWIs, (especially the Ivies,) in terms of academic excellence, but first the need to rid of the white and foreign influence.

I'm curious. Could you some how qualify some or your assertions? Mainly the white and foreign influence at HBCU's.

Should this be the case. I think it's still more important for Blacks to learn how much diversity there is within our own race\culture and HBCU's provide that. I find it down right deplorable and inaccurate when I hear people saying HBCU's aren't the real world. Saying so only confirms the stereotype that all Blacks look alike, think alike and act alike.

 

[Will Munny]

Serious question, what do they call it in today's world when someone believes in heirarchal classes between races, usually based on superficial appearances?

 

[Kwan Dai]

Serious question, what do they call it in today's world when someone believes in heirarchal classes between races, usually based on superficial appearances?

Classicism?

But in America Classicism in which Blacks are concerned is rooted in Racism.

 

[LUClEN]

One thing that doesn't get discussed much are the implications of this kind of reasoning. If by that logic black Americans can't be racist then you can deduce that similarly oppressed peoples are similarly as incapable of racism. Most particularly, these would be the many indigenous communities. Depending on where you sit on the history this could also include Jews. Hell, I bet you there are feminists with arguments about why women can't be racist because of their lack of institutional power.

Most people who think black people can't be racist would probably reject those other arguments, though, despite the fact that they can be deduced from the same premises.

 

[Will Munny]

Serious question, what do they call it in today's world when someone believes in heirarchal classes between races, usually based on superficial appearances?

Classicism?

But in America Classicism in which Blacks are concerned is rooted in Racism.

That would be differences in class, I'm specifically asking about heirarchal differences between race, or what is perceived as race, i.e. Skin tone, facial structural etc

 

[Kwan Dai]

One thing that doesn't get discussed much are the implications of this kind of reasoning. If by that logic black Americans can't be racist then you can deduce that similarly oppressed peoples are similarly as incapable of racism. Most particularly, these would be the many indigenous communities. Depending on where you sit on the history this could also include Jews. Hell, I bet you there are feminists with arguments about why women can't be racist because of their lack of institutional power.

Most people who think black people can't be racist would probably reject those other arguments, though, despite the fact that they can be deduced from the same premises.

Black Americans to be more specific. We just don't have that History. However, Jews and feminists both have and continue to be racists towards Black Americans..

 

[5th Letter]

Black people can be prejudice. Their idea of "black racism" is down to name calling. Real racism is systemic using power and influence to subjugate a group of people.

Even though most people use it, I don't think "racism" is a good (enough) or accurate term in this case. And I'm not sure what "real racism" means. Literally speaking, racism can be perpetrated by anyone. We know this.

I think a better, different term or further, clearer qualification of the term "racism" is needed, because I get what you're saying, but the semantics is off.

Why are the semantics off?

 

[Kwan Dai]

Is it only black men that are going? Most Trinidadians are not black, and some of the Indians are Muslim (most are Hindus though).

You mean African. And it's damn near even when it comes to Africans and Indians in Trinidad.

Just showing how the distinction is routinely made. Black is almost exclusively used to describe People of darker skin who's ancestry was lost during the Trans-Atlantic holocaust.

 

[texas409]

black folks hate my high yella ass so yes they can be racist against their own people.