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real_hh_rep;7752731 said:It reminded me of School Daze, which of course was better and dealt with different type of racism.
kingMansaMusa;7734502 said:if i attended this institute of higher learning
id be busting all the stains,fucking all the hoes nd selling all dank see me posted on campus throwing up gang signs cuh catch me in the female dorms hitting beaver bongs catch me at lunch stealing niggas lunches nd re selling it to them
YoungGoldie;7770719 said:Higher Learning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
A$AP_A$TON;8345050 said:It was alright, oh girl was phony though. This movie prolly resounded better with teens and younger college age folks who don't really "know who they are" yet.
focus;8348210 said:Yea, dope movie. Really seems like the IC is stuck in a high school state of mind sometimes reading the criticisms of this movie.
Knives Amilli;8342797 said:I just saw this movie on netflix, here's my take:
The whole movie IMO is about how Blacks struggle with identity and social interactions with other Blacks because in White Society, we dont have the option of being who we WANT to be. In "white space" you are never an individual, you are a ROLE.
After reading some reviews of the movie, it seems that Sams character arc (played by Tessa Thompson) was the most polarizing and some even accuse the movie of cooning due to how her character ends up. I think I understood what Director Justin Simien was trying to convey, so heres my take:
Sam starts the movie as the loudest black voice on campus. Pro Black and in your face she is the de facto leader of all things progressively Black. With her winning the election as Head of House, she's primed to ensure that the concerns of Blacks are being heard and real change will be made.
However we see that this is a ROLE Sam is playing. Just as Troy was playing the ROLE of "Cool BLACK Guy" to the White Kids. Just as CoCo was playing the role of "Bourgie Barbie Black Girl". And Lionel? He was ostracized because he was a gay geeky Black kid, he didnt fit into any conventional role.
In reality? Sam is completely overworked. She's involved in pretty much every Pro Black cause around but...she's barely passing her classes. Her (white) father is sick with heart disease and she barely any time to check in with her mother and no time to visit. The reality is that Sam's a film nerd whose time would probably be much better spent actually making films, but because of a combination of:
1. Black voices being so suppressed at her school/society in general
and
2. The dilemma that Mulattos face in that they have to "choose sides"
..Sam has fully committed herself to the role of Angry Black College Liberal because that's the space that WHITE SOCIETY has shaped for her to be active and have her voice heard. And Sam feels she has to stay in character, even if it means being completely overwhelmed by extra curriculars. Even if it means keeping her white lover secret.
The climax of the movie finds Sam realizing she's completely neglected whats important (her family, her education, white boyfriend Gabe) because her role has gotten out of control. Even worse is that people (like love interest Reggie) have projected and pushed THEIR aspirations and THEIR goals onto her without ever stepping up to do it themselves or asking if she really wanted to do it in the first place (this is basically verified when, spoiler alert, its revealed).Reggie sabotaged the Head of House race without Sams knowledge so Sam could win so she could push agendas for the Black Student Union
So Sam realizes that whats BEST FOR HER is stepping back from campus life and getting back to what really matters (for her its once again, family, film and Gabe). I don't think it means she doesn't care or will no longer be active about Black issues; she just now will do under her own terms.
So with that said, I can see how a lotta people took the wrong message given how complex the central character of the movie was.
Not to be honest, I didnt care for the White Boyfriend angle. I feel in a predominantly Black movie, the need to showcase Black Love and admirable Black Male Figures was important and what do you know, most of the Black Males in the movie were extremely flawed (Lionel has the most admirable and complete character arc but he was gay and I know how alot of yall feel about that) and all the Black relationships didnt last. Mind you, Justin Simien has no obligation do so, its his movie, his vision. I just would've liked to see any POC as Sam's love interest as opposed to "probably upper middle class, sensitive, artsy White Guy".
deadeye;8350197 said:Knives Amilli;8342797 said:I just saw this movie on netflix, here's my take:
The whole movie IMO is about how Blacks struggle with identity and social interactions with other Blacks because in White Society, we dont have the option of being who we WANT to be. In "white space" you are never an individual, you are a ROLE.
After reading some reviews of the movie, it seems that Sams character arc (played by Tessa Thompson) was the most polarizing and some even accuse the movie of cooning due to how her character ends up. I think I understood what Director Justin Simien was trying to convey, so heres my take:
Sam starts the movie as the loudest black voice on campus. Pro Black and in your face she is the de facto leader of all things progressively Black. With her winning the election as Head of House, she's primed to ensure that the concerns of Blacks are being heard and real change will be made.
However we see that this is a ROLE Sam is playing. Just as Troy was playing the ROLE of "Cool BLACK Guy" to the White Kids. Just as CoCo was playing the role of "Bourgie Barbie Black Girl". And Lionel? He was ostracized because he was a gay geeky Black kid, he didnt fit into any conventional role.
In reality? Sam is completely overworked. She's involved in pretty much every Pro Black cause around but...she's barely passing her classes. Her (white) father is sick with heart disease and she barely any time to check in with her mother and no time to visit. The reality is that Sam's a film nerd whose time would probably be much better spent actually making films, but because of a combination of:
1. Black voices being so suppressed at her school/society in general
and
2. The dilemma that Mulattos face in that they have to "choose sides"
..Sam has fully committed herself to the role of Angry Black College Liberal because that's the space that WHITE SOCIETY has shaped for her to be active and have her voice heard. And Sam feels she has to stay in character, even if it means being completely overwhelmed by extra curriculars. Even if it means keeping her white lover secret.
The climax of the movie finds Sam realizing she's completely neglected whats important (her family, her education, white boyfriend Gabe) because her role has gotten out of control. Even worse is that people (like love interest Reggie) have projected and pushed THEIR aspirations and THEIR goals onto her without ever stepping up to do it themselves or asking if she really wanted to do it in the first place (this is basically verified when, spoiler alert, its revealed).Reggie sabotaged the Head of House race without Sams knowledge so Sam could win so she could push agendas for the Black Student Union
So Sam realizes that whats BEST FOR HER is stepping back from campus life and getting back to what really matters (for her its once again, family, film and Gabe). I don't think it means she doesn't care or will no longer be active about Black issues; she just now will do under her own terms.
So with that said, I can see how a lotta people took the wrong message given how complex the central character of the movie was.
Not to be honest, I didnt care for the White Boyfriend angle. I feel in a predominantly Black movie, the need to showcase Black Love and admirable Black Male Figures was important and what do you know, most of the Black Males in the movie were extremely flawed (Lionel has the most admirable and complete character arc but he was gay and I know how alot of yall feel about that) and all the Black relationships didnt last. Mind you, Justin Simien has no obligation do so, its his movie, his vision. I just would've liked to see any POC as Sam's love interest as opposed to "probably upper middle class, sensitive, artsy White Guy".
If all of that is true, then the film shouldn't have been titled "Dear White People."