DC vs Marvel tier battles royal!

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waterproof;5893934 said:
Bcotton5;5893583 said:
Stan Lee himself has said Thor is the mostp powerful hero in Marvel

I had to reread what u wrote

But on the creation of thor

i will post the whole quote when i get the time, he said how can u make a person stronger than the ststrongeshere is in hulk, and how can u make a person smarter than reed richards, he said u can't...but you can create a god.

Now Thor was intended to be smarter then Reed Richards and just as Strong as the Hulk but he is not, the whole quote was how The creation of Thor was manifes and what was the original intension, to make a new charact fresh while using a same power set as characters he already had without looking like he recycling chracters

But check this out in the Stan and Kirby era the strongest characters in Marvel was written HulK, Thor then Thing so u can take that with a grain of salt

The nigga Thor was taking a beating against Hulk during the Fear Itself storyline. Look what he did to Thing. Never is Thor able to do that to The Hulk.

 
evoljeanyes;5894145 said:
Surfer has beaten a softened bill...you're right...he is no match for Martian manhunter mentally or strength wise. Speed he has him. This is just factual. Durability wise as well. Surfer has nothing he can drain from manhunter and he can phase. Surfer would catch hell with J'onn.

Surfer's stronger, he put down BRB in three hits. And he can just...produce fire, or create a blackhole, or hit him with cosmic rays,MMH has nothing on him. Phasing won't do shit when J'onn has no way to hurt Surfer. None at al.

And he'd drain Sentry's supposed "exploding sun" powers with ease, absorbing every display of energy he sent at him. Anything else, Sentry just gets smashed so....it's not even worth mentioning.
 
DarkRaiden;5897596 said:
evoljeanyes;5894145 said:
Surfer has beaten a softened bill...you're right...he is no match for Martian manhunter mentally or strength wise. Speed he has him. This is just factual. Durability wise as well. Surfer has nothing he can drain from manhunter and he can phase. Surfer would catch hell with J'onn.

Surfer's stronger, he put down BRB in three hits. And he can just...produce fire, or create a blackhole, or hit him with cosmic rays,MMH has nothing on him. Phasing won't do shit when J'onn has no way to hurt Surfer. None at al.

And he'd drain Sentry's supposed "exploding sun" powers with ease, absorbing every display of energy he sent at him. Anything else, Sentry just gets smashed so....it's not even worth mentioning.

No mother fucking cosmic rays...his fire fear was retconned, manhunter closed a blackhole with his hands. Surfer would get mind fucked. Not to say Surfer can't win. But you're hyping him. All of his massive powers have limitations and take supreme concentration.

 
evoljeanyes;5899401 said:
lion_heart;5895154 said:
evoljeanyes;5893426 said:
Lol Hercules never ever beat Thor...

Thor would beat the dog shit out of hulk and Hercules! Please read your books.

You wanna bet on that?


Odin drained Thor's power and he didn't have Mjolnir. Nigga pleasseee.


Where did Odin drain his power? The nigga ain't shit without Mjolnir. What was Thor's excuse when Emma Frost beat the breaks off that nigga?

 
lion_heart;5899773 said:
evoljeanyes;5899401 said:
lion_heart;5895154 said:
evoljeanyes;5893426 said:
Lol Hercules never ever beat Thor...

Thor would beat the dog shit out of hulk and Hercules! Please read your books.

You wanna bet on that?


Odin drained Thor's power and he didn't have Mjolnir. Nigga pleasseee.


Where did Odin drain his power? The nigga ain't shit without Mjolnir. What was Thor's excuse when Emma Frost beat the breaks off that nigga?


Nigga he shattered this hoe and she built herself back with phoenix force. She had full phoenix and couldn't fuck with his mind. Then she snuck him and dipped. Thor hit Hercules with lighting without the hammer. You're hating. Thor is that Nigga.
 
MM can not fuck with Surfer in any way lol

Im one of the ones that agree that MM>Superman but no hes not fucking with Thor
 
evoljeanyes;5899421 said:
DarkRaiden;5897596 said:
evoljeanyes;5894145 said:
Surfer has beaten a softened bill...you're right...he is no match for Martian manhunter mentally or strength wise. Speed he has him. This is just factual. Durability wise as well. Surfer has nothing he can drain from manhunter and he can phase. Surfer would catch hell with J'onn.

Surfer's stronger, he put down BRB in three hits. And he can just...produce fire, or create a blackhole, or hit him with cosmic rays,MMH has nothing on him. Phasing won't do shit when J'onn has no way to hurt Surfer. None at al.

And he'd drain Sentry's supposed "exploding sun" powers with ease, absorbing every display of energy he sent at him. Anything else, Sentry just gets smashed so....it's not even worth mentioning.

No mother fucking cosmic rays...his fire fear was retconned, manhunter closed a blackhole with his hands. Surfer would get mind fucked. Not to say Surfer can't win. But you're hyping him. All of his massive powers have limitations and take supreme concentration.

Nah son, Surfer's done Telepathy from across the galaxy and resisted mind control from Moondragon with the mind gem, aka >>>>>MMH. Also recently, they made it so that power cosmic was tied to the astro plane and that those who use it (Surfer especially) are immune to psychic attacks and are unbeatble in the astro plane. MMH ain't mindraping shit. And Surfer does most of his powers with ease, shit takes but a second. And MMH's fire weakness comes back and leaves, so it's assumed on till I see good reason as why it's not.

Also Supes closed a blackhole with his hands, need a scan for MMH. Never heard of that one.

Just face it, Surfer is a step above the JL heavy hitters. Even all together they would fail.

 
@darkraiden you're tripping...just like you think Slade would beat Wolverine which is a joke, MMH and SS is a head up fight. Mm WOULD MIND FUCK SURFER. That's it. Mindfuck. Mm would control all of ss's energy blasts. Intangibility makes him out of reach for all surfer attacks and he can mind fuck him. Fuckin that one add moindragon feat Mm mind controlled SPECTRE made black Adam merk hisself.
 
evoljeanyes;5903019 said:
@darkraiden you're tripping...just like you think Slade would beat Wolverine which is a joke, MMH and SS is a head up fight. Mm WOULD MIND FUCK SURFER. That's it. Mindfuck. Mm would control all of ss's energy blasts. Intangibility makes him out of reach for all surfer attacks and he can mind fuck him. Fuckin that one add moindragon feat Mm mind controlled SPECTRE made black Adam merk hisself.

MM can't control energy blasts, and intangibility means nothing. Surfer rearranges and attacks molecules, to go intangible, one still has matter and still has molecules that can be attacked. And once again, Surfer is better mentally than both of them, Moondragon with a mind gem is insanely powerful mentaly. The Mindgem allows regular ass people to be on Prof. X's level if not higher (that's planet wide telepath), and Moondragon is already the truth. So no, no mind fuck at all.

And just for your benefit:

Surfer moving lightyears in seconds:
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Cross galaxy telepathy:
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He can phase too:
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Him being immune to damage in the astral plane (mental attacks):
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Moondragon feat:
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And beyond this he's disintegrated people's atoms, beaten Impossible Man (aka Mr. mxyzptlk) and more.

Not to mention that the Crunch feat I displayed before lets him beat Galactus level beings. MMH has no chance.
 
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@darkraiden bro you're not properly selling manhunter. Surfer has gotten mind fucked by Loki...manhunter is the strongest Telepaths in DC. Surfer communicated cross galaxy. He isn't a strong Telepath bruh. Martian manhunter is the fucking astral plane. The shit deteriorated without him. He currently equals supes in speed and strength. He can also augment strength by shapeshifting. He does manipulate energy.

And moondragons mind gem is altered by warlock to protect his people.

Surfer isn't light speed anymore. Plus surfers reaction when off his board is regular so he has no reaction feats. John is hella fast. I don't mind suggesting surfer wins but its surely tough for him
 
evoljeanyes;5903563 said:
@darkraiden bro you're not properly selling manhunter. Surfer has gotten mind fucked by Loki...manhunter is the strongest Telepaths in DC. Surfer communicated cross galaxy. He isn't a strong Telepath bruh. Martian manhunter is the fucking astral plane. The shit deteriorated without him. He currently equals supes in speed and strength. He can also augment strength by shapeshifting. He does manipulate energy.

And moondragons mind gem is altered by warlock to protect his people.

Surfer isn't light speed anymore. Plus surfers reaction when off his board is regular so he has no reaction feats. John is hella fast. I don't mind suggesting surfer wins but its surely tough for him

That's all completely wrong, this might be the last time since I've already shown so much why Surfer wins with ease but w/e. Loki mind controlled him once, but that was old, ancient, and since then, Surfer has resisted far stronger mental attacks and has gotten far more powerful. And no, Surfer is the Astral Plane as in literally unbeatable, so Mental attacks won't work. Also, check a respect thread, he has absorbed psychokinetic energy, and can sense/see psionic energy.

As for strength, he's stronger than Supes. Beta Ray Bill is causally busting planets with ease, and Surfer stomped him with ease.

Warlock's people is not Surfer, so that mind gem's alteration wouldn't affect Surfer, he flat out resisted it.

As for speed, he's actually even faster and has gone millions of times past light speed recently and even blitzed Nova in battle, as in reaction speed. He's also searched an entire planet within a second, and check a respect thread, off his board he's still too fast for Hulk and was 'fast as space winds' and even has nanosecond reaction speeds.

Surfer stomps bruh it's been proven over and over again. Just accept it.
 
@darkraiden you're irrational and ill informed.

Surfer isn't the astral plane there is no proof he can't be mind controlled. Surfer has no hand to hand on foot reaction feats.

Nigga too fast for hulk? We talking about light speed + mm..

He is only faster than light speed in hyperspace.

He blitzed nova on his hoard Nigga. You're just dick riding Surfer.

Warlock put restraints on the mind gem because he didn't trust moondragon. she couldn't even mind control pip. He altered it.

Speed blitz isn't reaction time.
 
evoljeanyes;5901489 said:
lion_heart;5899773 said:
evoljeanyes;5899401 said:
lion_heart;5895154 said:
evoljeanyes;5893426 said:
Lol Hercules never ever beat Thor...

Thor would beat the dog shit out of hulk and Hercules! Please read your books.

You wanna bet on that?


Odin drained Thor's power and he didn't have Mjolnir. Nigga pleasseee.


Where did Odin drain his power? The nigga ain't shit without Mjolnir. What was Thor's excuse when Emma Frost beat the breaks off that nigga?


Nigga he shattered this hoe and she built herself back with phoenix force. She had full phoenix and couldn't fuck with his mind. Then she snuck him and dipped. Thor hit Hercules with lighting without the hammer. You're hating. Thor is that Nigga.


You making shit up nigga. Emma sonned that nigga for real. Thought Thor was suppose to be a god?


"I should have guessed that a boy who takes such girlish effort with his long locks would hit like one"

"Tell me have you ever wished a woman to put you on all fours and grab hold of that mane"

That's the shit to make Thor's soul burn slow
 
lion_heart;5899773 said:
evoljeanyes;5899401 said:
lion_heart;5895154 said:
evoljeanyes;58934-26 said:
Lol Hercules never ever beat Thor...

Thor would beat the dog shit out of hulk and Hercules! Please read your books.

You wanna bet on that?


Odin drained Thor's power and he didn't have Mjolnir. Nigga pleasseee.


Where did Odin drain his power? The nigga ain't shit without Mjolnir. What was Thor's excuse when Emma Frost beat the breaks off that nigga?


She did whoop his ass. That shit almost made me shed a tear for Goldilocks.
 
evoljeanyes;5901489 said:
lion_heart;5899773 said:
evoljeanyes;5899401 said:
lion_heart;5895154 said:
evoljeanyes;5893426 said:
Lol Hercules never ever beat Thor...

Thor would beat the dog shit out of hulk and Hercules! Please read your books.

You wanna bet on that?


Odin drained Thor's power and he didn't have Mjolnir. Nigga pleasseee.


Where did Odin drain his power? The nigga ain't shit without Mjolnir. What was Thor's excuse when Emma Frost beat the breaks off that nigga?


Nigga he shattered this hoe and she built herself back with phoenix force. She had full phoenix and couldn't fuck with his mind. Then she snuck him and dipped. Thor hit Hercules with lighting without the hammer. You're hating. Thor is that Nigga.


She only had 1/5 of full Phoenix power and still beat his ass.
 

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